Oct. 9, 2020
Episode 21 - Remembering Eddie Van Halen


In episode 21 of Back to the '80s, Toscano & Chang talk to special guests, Marshall Thomas and Ted Ziegenbusch, two of LA's amazing on-air personalities of the '70s, '80s, and still rocking the mics today! Today we honor the memory of the late-great, Eddie Van Halen.
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All right, rockets as roll as
you are hanging and banging. That's right.
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On this somber eve, we are
celebrating the life and death of the
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late great Eddie van Halen, guitar
God, guitar wizard, king of rock
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and roll too, myself and my
fellow Angelinos. So join me in Tuscano
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as we take a trip back to
the eighties and we remember some of the
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great music and some good talk with
some good folks about the late great Eddie
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van Halen. Welcome to back to
the eighties. If you can't wear a
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spandex jumpsuits, what can you do
this? Back back to the eighties you
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are listening to Back to the eighties. Tiscanno from Tiscano, win chengg here,
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thank you for joining us on another
Friday with a wondrous Chang to my
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side. We're celebrating the life of
a fantastic and amazing musician, one who's
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left a mark on music that is
nothing other than Eddie Van Halen. And
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we're also celebrating guess who chang.
We are celebrating John Lennon's birthday as well.
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That's right, you cannot forget the
late great John Lennon, and it's
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somber on both topics. At one
point we could celebrate the life of the
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great John Lennon, but at the
same time we no longer have John Lennon.
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And it is the exact day after
we lose one of the greatest guitar
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players, musicians and probably teachers of
music that we will ever see again in
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his likes or form. So it's
it's a sad and odd that tonight we
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do this show and we open it
up with both of those I'm sure both
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men are gathered together in Heaven's gates
and they're probably talking over, you know,
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the gig that they're going to do, because everybody knows when a musician
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passes away, not only doesn't an
angel get his wings, but an angel
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picks up a guitar pick and then
they go to the great gig in the
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sky. So that's right, both
those gentlemen right now are going to collaborate
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on something great up there. And
you are still listening to back to the
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eighties. I want to remind you
guys to stick around. We've got a
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great program. In spite of the
unfortunate circumstances in the passing of Eddie van
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Halen. We do have two wonderful
guests that are going to be joining us
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later today, and you are hanging
with Tiscano and Chang and this is back
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to the eighties. We want to
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help each other get through all this chaotic
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crap that we are going through right
now. So with no further Ado Toscano,
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where the hell are you. I'm
in the same place I've always been
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here in studio. I see from
what I'm looking at, I see that
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you're in an undisclosed area of maybe
Russia. Is it because I cannot see
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a thing behind you. Well,
I'm out hunting Bigfoot, and I was
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going to I knew its way Bigfoot
to possibly chime in with Ted and Marshall,
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but I think he got scared off, and as a matter of fact,
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he took my Captain Morgan and I
haven't seen him since, but he
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may be showing up on my chanster's
gangsters page this Saturday. Squatch, I'm
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looking for sex Square, that's right. So I want to thank you guys
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for joining us as we talk about
the late great Eddie van Halen. I
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also want to thank you guys for
joining our fan page at Facebook and for
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downloading our programs. It really helps
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are the reason why we are here
doing this. So once again, thank
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you guys, and we really really
do appreciate you guys being with us.
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So Chang, let's kick it all
off on this very very sad note.
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We know the passing of Eddie van
Halen has meant a lot for the world
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of music, but what has it
meant for the world of Chang. Oh
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well, Eddie van Halen to me
is the group Van Haven is a staple
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in my life. It's it's kind
of the soundtrack to my memories and the
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experiences that I lived in the eighties
from seventy nine to eighty. As a
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matter of fact, when Van Haven
first burst upon the scene, their first
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album came out in seventy nine.
So there music and the type of aura
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that they put out, the vibe
that they put out, the feeling,
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the style of music, what they
represented is pretty much what I believe I
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am and my fellow rockers of the
eighties are. We're a bunch of no
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nonsense rock and rollers, you know
what I mean. We're gonna kick the
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door and we're gonna crank it up
loud. We're going to carry things into
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our own hands. It's going to
look the way we want, sound the
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way we want. We're going to
intimidate you, We're going to enforce you,
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We're going to rejuvenate you. So
Van Halen to me represents my youth
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up until my adolescence, you know
what I mean. They've been cranking a
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long time. There are a lot
of great tunes I do like with him
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with Sammy. He also did a
squint with Gary Scharrone, who was the
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former lead singer of You Remember That
band More Than Words and Eddie. Van
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Halen also worked with Michael Jackson,
which he had a bad experience working with
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Michael Jackson. Oddly enough, Yeah, and he did the beat It riffuh
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and I believe he didn't accept payment
for that or credit. The only thing
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that I believed they gave him was
a six pack of beer. Yeah,
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I believe so. But and I
heard that Michael Jackson's monkey handed it to
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Eddie Van Halen and he gave him
that beer. So what that Hell's up
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with that? But I mean van
Eddie van Halen to me is probably another
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coming of Jimmy Hendrix, you know, just such as I thought of Steve
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ray Vaughn. But Eddie Van Halen
was in a class all by himself,
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classic pianist. He came his bloodline
came from musicians. Him and his brother
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I think they were, like you
know what I mean, no thunder and
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lightning. I would probably describe but
Halen Brothers as the thunder and lightning of
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rock and roll. And I think
you mix in some of the great backing
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vocals by Michael Anthony and the great
front man, the king performer, the
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circus leader Diamond David Lee Roth,
and you had a powerful storm when it
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came to Van Halen music. And
that storm continued even though the climbing changed
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a little bit with Sammy Hagar entering
the band. But definitely an improviser of
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so many different sounds of the guitar
tones, the way he would set his
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vibrato, I mean just I mean
dancing on the fred board, the way
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that he would do. I mean, you know, very rarely will you
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see it again, you know,
except for maybe if anybody recalls Randy Rhodes,
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who is very similar, also trained
classically in music. YEA. Individuals
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like that, Bro, they just
they make a concrete pillar in music and
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rock and roll, you know.
Eddie's. Eddie's nineteen seventy instrumental solo Eruption
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was voted number two in Guitar World's
reader's poll of the one hundred greatest Guitar
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solos of all Time. That's a
beautiful solos that he did, dude.
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I mean, you know, when
you first put the kneel on and it
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cranks on, you're just like blown
away. He's like, whoa, that's
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that's just just dude on the guitar. And you can, you know,
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you can listen to it and you
could visualize i mean, his hands working
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at fret, those strings getting bent
and to the magnitude that he's bending them
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in the speed just incredible, you
know what I mean, Like like a
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perfectly screeched hot rod rolling down the
highway full velocity. You know what I'm
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saying. Yeah, I know that
he was recognized as or popularized tapping.
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He didn't really invent the tapping technique
because it was already been used by Flamenco
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guitarists at least what a century or
half a century before then. Tapping the
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strings in rock, he was the
first and just a pioneer of it.
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So definitely we are going to be
remembering and honoring the memory of guitarist,
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songwriter and inventor Eddie Van Halen.
Coming up, we have a spectacular interview
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with two icons of rock and roll
FM Radio now Tiscano. Before we dive
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deeper into our show, let me
ask you what would be your favorite Van
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Halen song of David Lee Roth and
Sammy hagar vand well being that I was
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a teenager when Jump came out,
and that's the one that hit me first,
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I would say Jump, But I
also liked Panama. I mean,
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I liked all their stuff, but
I really liked Panama. However, there
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was a part in Panama, and
I know you'll remember where he starts talking
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very in a very sensual way,
and he says he leans his seat back
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and puts his hand between his legs
and j oh, yeah, when I
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kind of felt uncomfortable every time.
I used to hear that part back in
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the eighties. But I would still
say, jump in Panama are my favorite
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Van Halen songs. That's a classic
line. I gotta give it to Diamond
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Day for coming up with that line. And that's like, like I wanted
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to mention Van Halen had the sex
appeal. I think they brought the sex
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appeal to Los Angeles rock and roll. I think they they took a little
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bit of that bad boy kind of
exotic male stripper look oh pore rocker,
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and they glamorized it, and I
mean it's sold, you know what I
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mean. I mean, I think
so many bands try to be sexy and
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balls out like Van Halen, but
I mean, come on, man,
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you can be an imitator, but
you're not the innovator, that's right.
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You know. They were definitely entertainers
in the full sense of the word.
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And I mean they were performers.
When you went to see Van Halen,
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you went to see a show,
you know, a full blown show.
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And from the beginning to end.
Yes, you did it was it was
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just entertaining from A to Z.
Well, right, if you just caught
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us here on back to the eighties, you're just in time. We have
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a very special guest to continue the
talk and remembering and honoring one of the
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greatest musicians, rock guitarist songwriters of
all time, the great Eddie Van Halen.
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And tonight we're talking to Marshall Thomas
of kay Frog and ninety five point
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one FM in Los Angeles. Marshall
is also changing myself's mentor. I mean,
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how great is this for us to
have a mentor on the air on
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our show? How great is it
for Marshall to talk to two guys in
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the mentor position? How great is
that? You know? You know I
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would I would call that pretty kangarriffic, my friend, kangar rific. Man.
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Thanks, thanks for being with us, Marshall. I've been looking forward
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to actually since we set this up. Man, A great pleasure to be
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with you. Yeah, kay Frog
is just part of my resume, and
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quite honestly, like tens of thousands
of broadcasters, come March of twenty twenty,
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half of broadcasting got laid off.
My company alone owns two hundred and
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fifty radio stations, and every part
time employee there got laid off two hundred
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fifty stations. Multiply that by iHeart. You know, Bonneville Cathedral, all
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the other big broadcast entities. Radio
took a major, major hit this year.
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And will it recover like everything else, we don't know? Who knows?
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Well, that explains why we have
more podcasters competing with us. Dang
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it. Yeah, everybody in his
dog is trying to start a podcast.
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I literally at the beach the other
day and I had my window down.
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I drove by this couple, guy
and I gather on the street corner.
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I just hadn't turned the corner right
by them. And what I'm saying to
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the other, yeah, I'm thinking
about starting a podcast. I had my
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window down. I yelled out,
Yeah, I'm actually thinking about stopping a
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podcast. But anyway, it's the
wave of the future, really is,
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and it is whoever would have thought
this, right? I mean, when
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I was growing up and listening to
guys like you and to others really big
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here in Los Angeles, you know, we all wanted to be on the
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radio. We always I mean,
that was the goal, right, and
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it's still the goal for for a
lot of us. But however, we
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always imagined ourselves and pictured ourselves being
on the air at a studio. We
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never thought that the studio would come
to us at some point. I mean,
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that is just a marvel of technology, it really is. And you
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know, had you told me back
then, hey, guess what, one
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of these days you'll be carrying this
little device in your pocket and it has
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music and pictures and whatever the hell
you want, I'd be like, I
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know, that's jets and stuff,
that's sci fi. We are here and
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it's it's here to stay. Yeah, this year, twenty twenty is going
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to change the way we do everything, and it's already affecting twenty one.
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So this is it. I know
that we talked the last time, very
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briefly, that we had you on
the show, and it was great having
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you on. We learned quite a
bit about how radio was. But now,
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unfortunately, I mean, twenty twenties
just hit us in a way that
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no other year has. Somebody sent
me a very funny picture today and it
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had a black screen and on it
it was just it just said twenty twenty.
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Written by Stephen King, directed by
Quentin Tarantino and soundtrack soundtrack by Yoko
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Ono. Oh man, that's surrendous
alone. So Marshall, Marshall, you
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go all the way back to the
days of carts, true, yeah,
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and yeah that's ancient technology. The
carts that was taped, and they were
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in cartridges that look like an eight
track For anybody knows what an eight track
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looks like. Um, yeah,
exactly the car um they looked identical to
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an eight track, only they were
four track, not eight track. And
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that was only a radio cart and
what you play in your car. But
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yeah, I did use cards,
uh, and they sounded horriorable. But
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you also did real right, you
also did real man, Real to Real.
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Yeah, I still own a real
the real it's behind me, stuck
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behind me. I need to get
some belt support. You can still send
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away for him. And I'm going
to get my real to Real working again
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because I have hours and hours and
hours of my old air checks from all
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the way back to k West and
Kazy why and just Na Yeah, so
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yeah, I would like to digitize
some of that stuff at least before it
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all disintegrates. Because you mentioned CAZy. Why wasn't that ninety five point nine
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in Orange County, you know it
was. I was in Orange County,
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not too far from Disneyland. Yes, so it was ninety five nine,
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right, Yes, it was Ball
wrote it was on Ball Road. And
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then yeah, I remember there was
I was working at the time when I
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used to listen to to Kasy Wine. Now this may have been after you,
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but there was there was a character
on there named Scott Free. Do
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you remember that I worked with Scott
Free? I know Scott Free. Scott
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Free, unfortunately, uh passed?
Are you serious? Yeah? I worked
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with him, obvious enough, got
wonderful guy. And I'm getting hills right
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now. Oh my gosh, this
is just too much for me to know.
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I mean, twenty twenty and now
I know that I know. I
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probably Scott Free passed away away before
twenty twenty, but still this is news
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to me. Well, when I
went to work at Cape Prague, there
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was this guy doing seven at midnight
at Cape Progu and it was Scott Free
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and I knew and I knew of
him, never worked with him, but
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I knew of him. I mean, it's been around LA Radio a long
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long time, and so to actually
get to work with him, he's a
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gott. He had a great since
humor. He had an unusual voice,
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and a lot of that was from
health problems. His voice was kind of
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high pitched, but sure that was
due to things going on that he couldn't
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control. Yeah, and I remember
I remember working at a company that used
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to sell PSAs. Believe it or
not, they sold PSAs. Yeah,
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and the company probably still does.
But can I also want to give a
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warm welcome to Ted ziggin Bushes on
the line, Ted, can you hear
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us? Oh yes, I can. Can you hear me? We can
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hear you loud and clear. So
we're remembering and honoring the life of Eddie
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van Halen. We're gonna make it
very simple, guys. I just wanted
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to attack this on two fronts only, and that is on a professional level
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and on a personal level. So
basically asking the question to you three,
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and that is what kind of footprint
did Eddie van Halen leave in the music
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world. Let's start off. Let's
start off with that, Marshall, Oh
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gosh, whatever, you know.
You have to remember that he was a
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child prodigy. It wasn't just that
he you know, his mom dad bought
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him a guitar and he learned how
to play. It was way beyond that
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he was forced to be record with. He loved music so much that it
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was really part of them that the
guitar playing was his language. He was.
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I mean, he really was born
with a gift like Beetho or Bach.
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A lot of people may not know
that. When he was a real
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small kid, his parents would take
him down the Long Beach and he did
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this year after year where they had
a piano competition and two thousand kids would
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show up, and he won it
every year, five years straight. And
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his teacher would help him with his
music. And it got to the point
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where his teacher said, look,
you're gonna have to turn the pages that
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I can't stand here and turn the
pages for you. And he noticed one
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time that Eddie wasn't turning the pages. He had learned everything by year and
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watched his teacher's hands. That's genius. He was just he wasn't just a
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guitar player, and he wasn't.
He was beyond talented. It was here
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from the stores if you will.
Ozzy Osbourne said he and Randy Rose were
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probably the two best guitar players in
Rocket Road at that time. In that
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era, I would one hundred percent
agree with you Marshall on that one percent.
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They were like prodigies. It was
like their whole purpose in life was
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to create musical pictures that will will
will tend to stick with people forever,
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kind of open up their own mind, but musically, and you had to
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be on another level to connect with
that or understand that. I mean,
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I agree one hundred percent with you. Eddie van Halen is probably was that
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my generation's coming of Jimmy Hendrix.
His father was also trained in the music
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profession, So so I believe that
the brothers just were handed this this torch
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and and and they ran with it, and they ran with it as long
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as they could. Ted. What
do you think what type of footprint did
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Eddie van Halen leave on this earth? Well, you know a lot of
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people point toward Brian Wilson of the
Beach Boys as being a musical genius for
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the things that he did with being
normal tune or normal instruments and created something
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that nobody had ever heard before.
And Eddie pretty well did that. When
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he wanted the guitar to sound a
certain way, he was able to build
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his own unique sound that became the
signature's sound for van Halen and I shared
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a story a little bit earlier,
a few days ago, when we were
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launching rock station out in San Bernardino
that is still album rock to this day.
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Kay calfm. Very popular station was
soft rock when I worked there in
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the early seventies, much like a
coast in Los Angeles, and almost overnight,
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virtually we changed the station into twenty
four to seven album rock, and
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we had to, you know,
go through the library, grabbed the albums
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to make the launch of the station
a success. And there sat van Halen
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who had just come up on the
scene. And what could be hotter than
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that first album, the sound that
they gave us, the excitement that they
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were starting to project in the music
industry and specifically for album rock stations.
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Some people were saying, I believe
it or not that at that point,
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progressive rock or hard rock as it
was known, was beginning to fade,
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and Van Halen is credited with saving
that particular format. And I don't know
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if I can stretch stretch it to
that point, you know, but they
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certainly were the top headliner. They
proved that when they got the one and
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a half million, you know,
for their appearance California Jam nineteen eighty certainly
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shot them into a higher elevation than
they've been before. But when you look
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at that late nineteen seventies, when
you had things like the Knack with My
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Sharona and songs like that coming out, you could say that Van Halen pretty
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well saved you know, loud guitars. Yeah. Do you also have to
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attribute that they brought a sextiness to
rock and roll, something like the sextiness
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of a like a sunny and share
type of good look. They had that
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bad boy kind of theatrical sexty male
stripper look, I would think for some
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girls. I mean, you know, with the karate kicks of Diamond Dave,
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that's true, the hair from Eddie
van Halen, the little moves he
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would do, his painting painter pants
outfit, with the Frankenstein's guitar, Alex
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Alex van Halen with a headband and
no leave. Everybody was looking for their
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own unique stage presence. I mean, when you have to compete with the
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previous previous eras and people like Jim
Morrison and things like that, an ac
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DC had their version of stage presence
that just you know, drove the audience
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crazy with their antics. But you're
right, you know I had that that
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was not top of mind. But
now that you bring it up, that's
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absolutely true. And again, you
know, maybe it was right right place,
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right time, because when you start
looking at the early nineteen eighties,
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the movies that were coming out,
the hairstyles that everybody had, the mago,
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the fan magazines that everybody were.
I mean, we had gotten past
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Tiger Beat and in sixteen and some
of those teen magazines, and people that
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were over eighteen were actually looking at
these mags, you know, not um,
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not for anything else, but because
they were fans of the band,
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not just the music. But I
was thinking earlier, how many bands,
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unless you were a true rock and
roll fan and you just knew everything about
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every group and every artist, how
many people? Because I know Van Halen,
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you could name the members of Van
Halen off the top of your tongue
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because there was so much publicity about
them and so much information that was coming
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out, you know, whether whether
you talked about David Lee Roth being the
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lead singer or this you know brother
group one used to play the drums one,
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you know, and they flip flopped, and you knew the band members
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names. Even if you weren't a
diehard rock and roll fan, you knew
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plenty about Van Halen because they were
the headliner. They were up at the
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top, or they wouldn't have gotten
the money that they got for that show.
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Chang, what kind of a footprint
didn't leave on you as well?
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No, van Halen. I think
of van Halen as the soundtrack to my
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life. If I could put make
a movie of my memory of some of
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the things that I've done, the
experiences, the antick, I would have
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to say that van Halen is in
that an impression in my mind and it
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goes with majority of my life.
I think in that aspect. But the
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footprint Eddie van Halen left with me
and the band van Halen was pure,
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unadult created. Oh kick ass,
la love us or had us. We're
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rob We're brutal to me. Van
Halen represents kind of the mindset of my
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fellow eighties rocks, where where we're
gonna take it to you hard. We're
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gonna pool no punches, We're gonna
hit you in the face with everything we
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can. We're gonna dazzle you,
entertain you, make you laugh, make
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you fall in love with us,
and you're never going to forget us.
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That's to me what Van Halen represents. And you're gonna look sexy while doing
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it. How about you, Marshall? About you, Marshall, what type
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of footprint or you know, market
that leave in your life. I didn't
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try to follow him that reason.
Now, you know what I appreciated was
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I'm a little bit older than Chang
even uh you know, and I grew
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up with a record collection. Starting
at ten years old, I started collecting
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records and so I was listening to
at that age people like Roy Orbison,
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Jean Vincent, Thatdy cochrane Um.
So when Van Halen came along, I
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thought, okay, these cats are
pretty cool because you know, they did
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a Kinks song if you remember early
on you Really Got Me Yes, Yeah,
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a lot of it, and I
thought these guys are pricking off the
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hook. And then later on they
did the Roy Orbison song or a Pretty
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Woman. It was in your face, loud and proud, and it had
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finesse and the sexy aspect of it
and there was no turning it down.
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When a Van Halen song came on
the radio and we were all very happy
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to play them. You knew people
were turning up their radio all over town
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and in their cars or wherever they
were because it was preaking Van Halen.
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Yeah, for me personally, and
you know, I went to see him.
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Of course, you know, back
in the day radio was a little
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more generous with tickets and things with
that nature. Things were pretty tight now
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and the yeah, twenty first century. But um, we went to every
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show all the time. And yeah, I was blown away, as I
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was with so many other acts.
But they had everything. Diamond Dave at
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that point was healthy enough to jump
and dive and and you know, do
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acrobatics and uh, you know,
just the whole band they were. You
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knew they were a unit because they
would look at each other and all that's
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all it took to make a change. It If a key change came up,
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all they did was look and not
and that it was synchronicity at its
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best. Yeah, and Haleen,
Yes, I agree. You know,
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I had no idea that he was
from the Netherlands and that his family had
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moved to Pasadena. I thought they
were from Pasadena originally, but they moved
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to Pasadena nineteen sixty two. I
had no idea that they were Dutch and
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they didn't wear wouldn't It's a European
name, man. Yeah, yeah,
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no, I knew. I knew
that. I just you know, I
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expected him. Born and raised in
good old, good old Pasadena. You
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know, their album nineteen eighty four
went five times Platinum of the year after
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its release. And then the lead
single Jump, which is Enter Tuscano,
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where I entered the whole scene with
van Halen back when MTV actually played music,
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And the first thing on my mind
when I used to watch that video
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jump beside David Lee Roth doing the
splits, was van Halen? Did you
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know that he did the original synth
on that and also the guitar of course,
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yes, yeah, I had known
that because I have that album and
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I used to watch MT. But
I will always stand on this video killed
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the radio, so I will go
with that. But you know, I
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used to like to check it out
and then check out some cliff notes and
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stuff. I mean, you know
me, dude, I just I live
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and breathe rock and roll. Rock
and roll is pretty much one of my
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hobbies, is one of my loves. Just it's in the blood now that
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we're remember and now let me ask
you this on a more I guess somber
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note. The day that we found
out. I know it caught everybody as
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any anytime that somebody who is well
known passes on, we all feel it
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as a shock, as as death
usually hits everybody, but when it's somebody
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who has done so much in a
music world, in this case, it
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hit the musician especially hard. Marshall, would you be able to talk to
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this point a little bit? Oh, yeah, you know, these are
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devastating. I may help for someone
my age. When I opened the paper
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one day and saw I always died, I weave, I wept, it
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was It's just that a crushing blow. Yeah. And so for all the
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rockers out there from seventy seven on
that followed Hill, back in the days
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when they were playing Gazarre for Nothing
and the Go Go and all those clubs
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um down the boulevard. Perspiration radio
stations I worked out was a block away
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from the Whiskey. We were there
all the time, and they played there
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all the time, and so they
became more than just a rock fan,
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especially to La fans. You could
go up to the old house in Pasadena.
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Everybody knows the address and drive by
it. A bunch of flowers and
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stuff out in front of it now. But um, no they were.
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It's a shock you It raises goose
bumps when you read the news of somebody
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like that passing. It's it's and
musicians, and most of my friends are
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proponents of my friends armed musicians,
and it's yeah, it's it's. It's
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tough. Um he uh the band
itself and Eddie was I forced to be
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recond with, and um, you
know obviously he had his share issues.
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A lot of musicians do, um
and it took its toll on some of
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those fellow musicians. When the word
gets out it's it'll it'll stop you in
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your tracks and you say, wow, you know, sixty five years old,
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really he should still be with us
and rocking. Yeah, Ted,
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what about you? Yeah? You
know when I first heard, um,
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I was in shock. And then
for a minute, you know, it
405
00:31:19.480 --> 00:31:22.480
came back to me again that he
had been ill, and he'd been you
406
00:31:22.519 --> 00:31:26.160
know, he had been fighting the
cancer that he had. But still,
407
00:31:26.359 --> 00:31:30.160
you know, it hits you like
a ton of bricks, because, um,
408
00:31:30.279 --> 00:31:36.079
when you connect the music to things
that happened in your life, to
409
00:31:36.279 --> 00:31:41.559
events in your life where you were
involved with that music. Now specifically For
410
00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:44.319
me, it was because I was
on the radio, and you know,
411
00:31:44.400 --> 00:31:48.559
that was one of the exciting points
of my career. And Van Halen just
412
00:31:48.599 --> 00:31:52.400
happened to be there launching their first
album at the time that I got into
413
00:31:52.440 --> 00:31:56.359
album rock. But you know,
then I moved to another station across town
414
00:31:56.359 --> 00:32:02.480
out in San Bernardino, and when
the first time I heard Jump, I
415
00:32:02.519 --> 00:32:07.759
said, oh my god, that's
one of those songs that literally jumps out
416
00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:14.559
of the radio at you. That's
exactly what radio stations are looking for to
417
00:32:14.720 --> 00:32:16.720
make them sound unique. And I
think that's one of the things about rock
418
00:32:16.839 --> 00:32:22.680
music that as as programmers or people
involved with it. While everybody says,
419
00:32:22.720 --> 00:32:27.480
you know, country music, I'll
sayd every song sounds the same, you
420
00:32:27.480 --> 00:32:30.920
know. And pop music became that
way for a really long time. And
421
00:32:31.000 --> 00:32:37.000
we went through the seventies with the
mellow music. Not to criticize but Olivia
422
00:32:37.079 --> 00:32:40.680
Newton, John and John Denver and
all of that that everything sounded the same.
423
00:32:42.400 --> 00:32:45.920
And then you have somebody come on
the scene who shakes things up and
424
00:32:46.200 --> 00:32:52.160
really gets excitement back into the into
radio stations again. And when you look
425
00:32:52.200 --> 00:32:58.839
back on that and you when you
think about the fact that these guys,
426
00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:04.359
um, we're not taken seriously by
a lot of people. Early on in
427
00:33:04.359 --> 00:33:07.799
their career. There were people who
said, well, Gene Simmons, you
428
00:33:07.799 --> 00:33:12.079
know, trying to trying to get
them signed to his label and having people
429
00:33:12.200 --> 00:33:15.759
say to him there's there's no way
these guys are going to make it.
430
00:33:15.279 --> 00:33:20.720
And I've heard from people and maybe
you've you've also seen you know, post
431
00:33:20.759 --> 00:33:25.640
pop up on Facebook in different places. People used to go to shows early
432
00:33:25.720 --> 00:33:29.920
in the career, before you know, they got their record deal. These
433
00:33:29.920 --> 00:33:34.680
guys would would appear in places like
a canyon out in the National Forest,
434
00:33:35.119 --> 00:33:37.279
two or three hundred people would hear
about the concert. They would show up
435
00:33:37.599 --> 00:33:40.200
here. The guys play a lot
of cover tunes. You know, they
436
00:33:40.240 --> 00:33:45.680
were granted they were playing cover tunes. But I heard from a guy who
437
00:33:45.759 --> 00:33:52.680
said I remembered seeing them. And
then one night I was driving along and
438
00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:57.839
I had Kmet on the radio and
I heard them say and here's a couple
439
00:33:57.839 --> 00:34:04.079
of guys from Pasadena with with uh, you really got me? And he
440
00:34:04.160 --> 00:34:07.880
said, I I really. I
had to. I almost you know,
441
00:34:07.079 --> 00:34:12.400
had to hit the brakes and pull
off the road. I thought, I
442
00:34:12.480 --> 00:34:15.880
thought these guys would never make it. I liked them, I thought they
443
00:34:15.880 --> 00:34:20.639
were a good band, but oh
my god, they're on KMID, you
444
00:34:20.679 --> 00:34:25.519
know, And and you look back
and you think about the talent, the
445
00:34:25.639 --> 00:34:32.280
excitement, um, the the energy
that they brought the album rock into music
446
00:34:32.320 --> 00:34:37.119
in those days, and it hurts
to think, you know, because you
447
00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:40.719
obviously you start thinking about your own
mortality. When we hear about rock stars
448
00:34:40.840 --> 00:34:45.840
dying at seventy, that's one thing. But when people start dying in that
449
00:34:45.960 --> 00:34:50.320
middle gap, you know, okay, he's not twenty seven, he didn't
450
00:34:50.360 --> 00:34:53.159
do an overdose. Okay he's not
seventy, and we didn't hear him for
451
00:34:53.239 --> 00:34:58.800
decades. It's like god, you
know, it's so it's so tough,
452
00:34:58.920 --> 00:35:02.280
and you think, you know,
well, yeah, living the rock and
453
00:35:02.400 --> 00:35:07.519
roll is a dream to be a
part of it, but it's also a
454
00:35:07.599 --> 00:35:09.800
very tough life. You know,
the time on the road, the ups
455
00:35:09.840 --> 00:35:15.920
and downs, the contracts you lose, the times that you feel rock bottom
456
00:35:15.960 --> 00:35:20.679
and nobody wants to take your phone
calls, and you know, you just
457
00:35:20.760 --> 00:35:27.360
wonder how much that wears on a
person's health, mental health and physical health
458
00:35:27.719 --> 00:35:32.519
over the years. And it's just
sad to see somebody that talented leave so
459
00:35:32.639 --> 00:35:36.679
early. You know, Eddie van
Halen, I heard him on an interview
460
00:35:36.679 --> 00:35:39.760
today just briefly saying that if they
wouldn't have made it with their big album
461
00:35:40.000 --> 00:35:44.199
in nineteen seventy eight or seventy nine
or something like that, their very first
462
00:35:44.199 --> 00:35:46.079
one where they jumped nineteen on the
billboards, he said, we would have
463
00:35:46.079 --> 00:35:50.920
probably been the world's greatest cover band. Dang, how did that affect you
464
00:35:51.679 --> 00:35:54.320
on a personal level? Well,
you know what I can I agree with
465
00:35:54.400 --> 00:36:00.760
both gentlemen, and Ted nailed it
immortality. When I first heard the news,
466
00:36:00.800 --> 00:36:05.079
it was a mortality kick. I
literally had to sit down where I
467
00:36:05.159 --> 00:36:09.480
was standing and my youth ran in
front of my eyes, my teenage youth,
468
00:36:09.559 --> 00:36:15.440
and I went over a lot of
my friends that I have lost at
469
00:36:15.639 --> 00:36:21.360
at our age. At fifty five, I think I've lost maybe twenty seven
470
00:36:21.400 --> 00:36:24.719
to thirty five class members of my
high school. So, you know,
471
00:36:24.800 --> 00:36:29.320
the first thing I thought of was
that. The second thing I thought,
472
00:36:29.400 --> 00:36:34.079
I was blessed, and I was
very fortunate to have seen him play three
473
00:36:34.119 --> 00:36:40.599
times and it was just like,
Wow, what an incredible loss to humanity.
474
00:36:42.960 --> 00:36:45.360
And I mean that by the music
that he made, Everything that he
475
00:36:45.480 --> 00:36:51.840
made was it was almost like a
fine whiskey, a fine wine. No
476
00:36:51.880 --> 00:36:55.920
one else could duplicate that that taste. Nobody could come up with that ingredient.
477
00:36:58.039 --> 00:37:01.599
No one will ever make you feel
exactly the way he did when he
478
00:37:01.760 --> 00:37:07.840
picked up Frankenstein and picked those strings. So to me, it was a
479
00:37:08.079 --> 00:37:12.599
reality check, a smack in the
face, and one of the hardest,
480
00:37:12.599 --> 00:37:16.320
bitterest farewells. As a rocker and
a music band, you have to put
481
00:37:16.360 --> 00:37:19.920
in your mind and stay goodbye right
then and there you look up to the
482
00:37:20.000 --> 00:37:22.199
I looked up to this guy through
my peace sign and through a kiss up
483
00:37:22.199 --> 00:37:24.679
to him. You know, thanks
for the music, thanks for the memories.
484
00:37:25.440 --> 00:37:34.239
When when we lose individuals with that
kind of charismatic beauty, that talent,
485
00:37:34.760 --> 00:37:38.440
that ray of sunlight, it kind
of puts us all in the realm
486
00:37:38.480 --> 00:37:44.760
of while the world really is changing, just like it did when John Lennon
487
00:37:44.840 --> 00:37:47.719
passed. So I attribute Eddie Van
Hayden like that, We're never going to
488
00:37:47.760 --> 00:37:53.880
have another individual like that again.
We will never be touched or entertained that
489
00:37:54.039 --> 00:37:59.119
beautiful again. So I would say
that's the way I'd sum it up.
490
00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:06.480
What do you guys think that this
generation of both musicians and music lovers can
491
00:38:06.599 --> 00:38:13.000
learn from the legacy of Eddie van
Halen Marshall. Wouldn't you say to a
492
00:38:13.000 --> 00:38:20.280
young musician about Eddie van Halen something
he would teach the musician of today is
493
00:38:20.519 --> 00:38:24.239
hone your craft, stay original,
play with your heart, play with your
494
00:38:24.239 --> 00:38:30.880
emotion. Educate yourself on your music
and your instrument. Make your instrument become
495
00:38:30.960 --> 00:38:37.440
your soul, your voice, your
touch of your finger. That in the
496
00:38:37.480 --> 00:38:39.840
beauty of itself, is what music
is all about. It's that touch,
497
00:38:39.920 --> 00:38:47.199
that connection, that vibration, that
unity that I think we now in this
498
00:38:47.239 --> 00:38:53.079
modern time needs so much of unity. I think you're familiar with what I
499
00:38:53.159 --> 00:39:00.119
used to say on Tuscano and Chang. Only through unity will we seek prosperity.
500
00:39:00.360 --> 00:39:05.000
And I think Eddie van Halen and
van Halen's the music illuminated that to
501
00:39:05.119 --> 00:39:10.159
all of us degree. I personally
got goosebumps when you started your latest thoughts
502
00:39:10.159 --> 00:39:15.480
there because in my mind kept I
kept hearing hone your craft and then you
503
00:39:15.480 --> 00:39:21.760
you use those exact words I mean
to an artist, to a musician,
504
00:39:22.840 --> 00:39:27.039
getting in the getting on the road
is everything because you want to see the
505
00:39:27.199 --> 00:39:30.079
reaction from the fans, You want
to feel the energy from the fans,
506
00:39:30.280 --> 00:39:34.519
and you want the income, you
know, and you want the promotion and
507
00:39:34.559 --> 00:39:39.599
the marketing of your latest product,
and right now that's just not possible.
508
00:39:40.000 --> 00:39:47.840
And unfortunately, because radio is going
through their own dilemma, not an identity
509
00:39:47.880 --> 00:39:52.719
crisis, but just a health crisis
as to how do we handle this,
510
00:39:53.239 --> 00:39:59.079
how do we employ enough people?
How do we market our product? When
511
00:39:59.440 --> 00:40:04.119
people are working as much, when
people are traveling as much, there's not
512
00:40:04.199 --> 00:40:08.480
going to be the exposure of the
music that there was even ten years ago.
513
00:40:09.159 --> 00:40:14.960
And hone your craft. You can
always be better than you are today.
514
00:40:15.039 --> 00:40:19.719
I mean there, I mean you
know when you we've lost you know,
515
00:40:19.840 --> 00:40:22.440
several musicians over the last few years, but you know, you look
516
00:40:22.480 --> 00:40:29.159
like a group like Es that started
touring again and drawing. And then Chris
517
00:40:29.199 --> 00:40:34.760
Squire passes away and John Anderson has
a voice problem and he can't sing with
518
00:40:34.800 --> 00:40:40.159
the group and they have to look
for another lead vocalist. And it's you
519
00:40:40.239 --> 00:40:45.039
hate to say it, but it's
constant change. There will always be changed,
520
00:40:45.079 --> 00:40:49.960
there will always be valleys, and
you have to find your way to
521
00:40:50.599 --> 00:40:53.880
dig out of it. And um, you know, I wish Eddie had
522
00:40:53.920 --> 00:40:58.800
been able to dig out of his
his you know, health valleys. But
523
00:40:59.800 --> 00:41:05.239
I understand that he and Hagar,
you know, kind of reconciled for whatever
524
00:41:05.400 --> 00:41:10.360
that's worth, however much you want
to buy into that. But you know,
525
00:41:10.440 --> 00:41:14.880
the difficulties that happen. This is
a time not to have strife within
526
00:41:14.880 --> 00:41:17.519
a group or strife within partners.
This is a time to bond together and
527
00:41:17.559 --> 00:41:21.320
just say, look, we got
a lot of time to practice, we
528
00:41:21.440 --> 00:41:24.199
got we got time to be creative, we got time to think. You
529
00:41:24.239 --> 00:41:28.920
know, because you're not on the
road and you're not participating on a regular
530
00:41:28.960 --> 00:41:32.199
basis, now is the time to
get experimental and see if you want to
531
00:41:32.239 --> 00:41:36.480
do this over here or that over
there. I mean Crosbie Stills, a
532
00:41:36.599 --> 00:41:40.360
Nash Young, they you know,
they reinvented themselves from the first album to
533
00:41:40.480 --> 00:41:45.320
Deja Vu to the next thing and
then came almost full circle again back to
534
00:41:45.400 --> 00:41:51.840
more acoustic stuff. So it's just
an I look at it as an opportunity
535
00:41:52.199 --> 00:41:55.400
and you have to stay optimistic or
you'll you'll you go, you know,
536
00:41:55.480 --> 00:42:00.559
you'll go work at some checkstand,
you know, just to keep your sanity.
537
00:42:00.800 --> 00:42:04.480
You can't be in it for the
books. You have to be in
538
00:42:04.519 --> 00:42:08.000
it for the passion, and you
have to always say I'm gonna make it,
539
00:42:08.719 --> 00:42:12.480
I'm gonna make it, I'm gonna
make it. I know Eddie and
540
00:42:12.559 --> 00:42:15.920
his brother must have said that,
you know, I'm sure they didn't.
541
00:42:15.239 --> 00:42:20.280
They didn't reject the first rejection letter
they got or the first people that said,
542
00:42:20.320 --> 00:42:22.320
you guys aren't going to make it. They didn't care. They enjoyed
543
00:42:22.360 --> 00:42:27.000
performing, they enjoyed getting in front
of two hundred people, you know,
544
00:42:27.639 --> 00:42:30.840
And you just have to remember that. And I think one of the biggest
545
00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:35.199
things that I've learned from all of
this, and as a musician and as
546
00:42:35.480 --> 00:42:38.280
a music lover myself, and something
that I think that this generation needs to
547
00:42:38.400 --> 00:42:44.480
learn is that the musician does something
from the heart. People like Eddie van
548
00:42:44.559 --> 00:42:50.159
Halen don't come around sue often.
And whatever he left for the world to
549
00:42:50.559 --> 00:42:52.840
enjoy, we can all get a
little bit of that. We can all
550
00:42:52.960 --> 00:42:59.119
get his feeling, his heart,
his spirit, and his essence for what
551
00:42:59.239 --> 00:43:01.280
he played. And I think that
he knew that, and I know that
552
00:43:01.280 --> 00:43:07.159
that he wanted to share that exact
same thing and leave that as his eternal
553
00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:13.159
legacy for everybody. We're gonna be
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to the eighties. We never stop, didn't hurt, didn't hurt, didn't
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hurt, no style, unforgettable memories
from the eighties. Stop back to the
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eighties. This was back to the
eighties Tisconna from Tisconna, Win chang Here
564
00:44:05.639 --> 00:44:09.119
we were talking with Marshall Thomas and
Ted ziggen Bush, one of our great
565
00:44:09.199 --> 00:44:13.559
mentors. Mister Marshall Thomas, Let
me ask you this. I'll start with
566
00:44:13.599 --> 00:44:17.920
you, what is your favorite Van
Halen song? Oh? Gosh, Well,
567
00:44:17.920 --> 00:44:22.840
I had mentioned earlier that it was
their cover songs that they were so
568
00:44:22.920 --> 00:44:27.000
famous for doing in the clubs and
such that when they recorded them that they
569
00:44:27.320 --> 00:44:32.000
really did a good job. Not
all cover copies are in my estimation as
570
00:44:32.039 --> 00:44:36.159
a record collector. Over the years, I collected cover copies on purpose and
571
00:44:36.400 --> 00:44:42.559
some are real clinkers and stinkers,
and some rival the original. And I
572
00:44:42.599 --> 00:44:45.039
thought, when I heard Van Halen
do the Kinks, you really got me
573
00:44:45.119 --> 00:44:51.119
and Roy Orbison's a pretty woman,
I thought, yeah, you can put
574
00:44:51.199 --> 00:44:55.239
up and turn it up to eleven
and about happy Trails. Yeah, right
575
00:44:55.320 --> 00:44:59.880
on, you know. So I
would have to say probably one of the
576
00:45:00.199 --> 00:45:02.159
of those. Probably, um there. I still if I hear one of
577
00:45:02.159 --> 00:45:06.599
those songs, it gets you going, it's a going, I'll turn it
578
00:45:06.679 --> 00:45:09.400
up. And so yeah, I
would have to say it's there's some of
579
00:45:09.400 --> 00:45:12.920
their cover cops. Not that I
didn't like to Jump and you know,
580
00:45:14.199 --> 00:45:17.320
Jamie's crying and all of those.
Um Panama, it's got to be one
581
00:45:17.360 --> 00:45:23.679
of my favorites. But yeah,
there's two numerous to pick one. Yeah,
582
00:45:23.840 --> 00:45:27.239
Ted, Well, what's your favorite
Van Halen song of all time?
583
00:45:28.199 --> 00:45:30.400
Normally I would say Jump because I
love that song so much, and I
584
00:45:30.440 --> 00:45:34.880
love Panama too, by the way, I love songs to jump out of
585
00:45:34.920 --> 00:45:37.760
the radio at you. But because
it was the debut album, because it
586
00:45:37.760 --> 00:45:42.840
never became a single, but yet
it ended up being I would say,
587
00:45:42.840 --> 00:45:47.880
our most requested song on k CALFM
when when I was doing mornings out in
588
00:45:47.960 --> 00:45:52.199
San Bernardino, every time I pick
up the phone, and believe me,
589
00:45:52.320 --> 00:45:57.079
because we were the new kid in
town with the rock and roll and we
590
00:45:57.119 --> 00:46:00.880
didn't have anybody out there other than
the weeks from Kalos or km ET in
591
00:46:00.960 --> 00:46:07.719
Los Angeles. When we started playing
that Van Halen album and every time you
592
00:46:07.800 --> 00:46:10.400
picked up the phone, Hello,
kay, cal can you play Jamie's crying?
593
00:46:12.559 --> 00:46:15.599
I mean, they got to the
point where we didn't. We didn't,
594
00:46:15.679 --> 00:46:19.400
you know, we didn't get upset. We said, my god,
595
00:46:19.719 --> 00:46:22.239
they loved this song, they loved
this group, they loved this music.
596
00:46:22.320 --> 00:46:28.119
They love us, you know.
I mean we felt united with Van Halen
597
00:46:28.159 --> 00:46:31.760
because they were at the launch of
us, launching a great sound and a
598
00:46:31.760 --> 00:46:37.119
great radio station. And to me, that song is just locked in my
599
00:46:37.199 --> 00:46:44.920
brain with the endorphins that went off
and the early days of rock and roll
600
00:46:45.280 --> 00:46:49.280
out in San Bernardino, let me
tell you, in nineteen seventy nine,
601
00:46:49.280 --> 00:46:53.519
seventy eight, seventy nine, they
desperately needed that kind of sound and that
602
00:46:53.599 --> 00:46:57.840
kind of music, And I'm just
glad that we were able to provide it
603
00:46:57.920 --> 00:47:01.840
and that there's something like Halen's music
to look back on and think, Wow,
604
00:47:01.920 --> 00:47:07.519
what what a marriage, what a
connection that was back then? Jang
605
00:47:07.760 --> 00:47:10.639
Chang, what about you, mister
rock and roller. You're you're gonna pick
606
00:47:10.679 --> 00:47:15.360
something out of your sleeve that nobody's
heard of. Well, my two favorite
607
00:47:15.400 --> 00:47:20.519
songs are Atomic Punk and Debtor Alive. But I also thoroughly love you can
608
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take your Whiskey Home like Sweet Day
would say. So those are probably my
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three all time favorite Van Halen songs. Each of them represent a very special
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time in my mind and in my
life. Guys, thank you so much,
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Marshall, Ted, thank you so
much for taking the time. And
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you guys have a very good night
rest of the week, and just be
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safe out there. Thank you.
Got I want to thank you guys for
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joining us here back to the eighties, letting you guys know that we're here
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every single Friday for you to come
back to so you can reminisce, you
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can enjoy the nostalgia the memories that
made that decade so great. From Tiscano.
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Have a great week, be he
go set your footprint in the world
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by introducing the eighties to a whole
new generation. See you next Friday.
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Chang here everybody, I want you
to have a great weekend. Stay lifted
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and give to put a smile down
that face, and go out there and
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stand up for something good, bigger
than yourself, and remember to always always
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do what you gotta do to be
the right kind of person for somebody else.
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As I release you, I want
to wish you all a nadios rib
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asta la vista into all my homies
in the hood or done Wow.
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All right, rockets as roll as
you are hanging and banging. That's right.
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On this somber eve, we are
celebrating the life and death of the
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late great Eddie van Halen, guitar
God, guitar wizard, king of rock
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and roll too, myself and my
fellow Angelinos. So join me in Tuscano
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as we take a trip back to
the eighties and we remember some of the
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great music and some good talk with
some good folks about the late great Eddie
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van Halen. Welcome to back to
the eighties. If you can't wear a
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spandex jumpsuits, what can you do
this? Back back to the eighties you
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are listening to Back to the eighties. Tiscanno from Tiscano, win chengg here,
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thank you for joining us on another
Friday with a wondrous Chang to my
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side. We're celebrating the life of
a fantastic and amazing musician, one who's
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left a mark on music that is
nothing other than Eddie Van Halen. And
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we're also celebrating guess who chang.
We are celebrating John Lennon's birthday as well.
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That's right, you cannot forget the
late great John Lennon, and it's
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somber on both topics. At one
point we could celebrate the life of the
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great John Lennon, but at the
same time we no longer have John Lennon.
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And it is the exact day after
we lose one of the greatest guitar
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players, musicians and probably teachers of
music that we will ever see again in
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his likes or form. So it's
it's a sad and odd that tonight we
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do this show and we open it
up with both of those I'm sure both
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men are gathered together in Heaven's gates
and they're probably talking over, you know,
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the gig that they're going to do, because everybody knows when a musician
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passes away, not only doesn't an
angel get his wings, but an angel
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picks up a guitar pick and then
they go to the great gig in the
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sky. So that's right, both
those gentlemen right now are going to collaborate
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on something great up there. And
you are still listening to back to the
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eighties. I want to remind you
guys to stick around. We've got a
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great program. In spite of the
unfortunate circumstances in the passing of Eddie van
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Halen. We do have two wonderful
guests that are going to be joining us
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later today, and you are hanging
with Tiscano and Chang and this is back
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to the eighties. We want to
welcome you all back. Remember to hit
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help you, and together we can
help each other get through all this chaotic
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crap that we are going through right
now. So with no further Ado Toscano,
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where the hell are you. I'm
in the same place I've always been
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here in studio. I see from
what I'm looking at, I see that
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you're in an undisclosed area of maybe
Russia. Is it because I cannot see
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a thing behind you. Well,
I'm out hunting Bigfoot, and I was
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going to I knew its way Bigfoot
to possibly chime in with Ted and Marshall,
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but I think he got scared off, and as a matter of fact,
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he took my Captain Morgan and I
haven't seen him since, but he
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may be showing up on my chanster's
gangsters page this Saturday. Squatch, I'm
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looking for sex Square, that's right. So I want to thank you guys
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for joining us as we talk about
the late great Eddie van Halen. I
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also want to thank you guys for
joining our fan page at Facebook and for
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downloading our programs. It really helps
us out a lot, and you guys
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are the reason why we are here
doing this. So once again, thank
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you guys, and we really really
do appreciate you guys being with us.
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So Chang, let's kick it all
off on this very very sad note.
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We know the passing of Eddie van
Halen has meant a lot for the world
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of music, but what has it
meant for the world of Chang. Oh
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well, Eddie van Halen to me
is the group Van Haven is a staple
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in my life. It's it's kind
of the soundtrack to my memories and the
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experiences that I lived in the eighties
from seventy nine to eighty. As a
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matter of fact, when Van Haven
first burst upon the scene, their first
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album came out in seventy nine.
So there music and the type of aura
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that they put out, the vibe
that they put out, the feeling,
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the style of music, what they
represented is pretty much what I believe I
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am and my fellow rockers of the
eighties are. We're a bunch of no
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nonsense rock and rollers, you know
what I mean. We're gonna kick the
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door and we're gonna crank it up
loud. We're going to carry things into
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our own hands. It's going to
look the way we want, sound the
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way we want. We're going to
intimidate you, We're going to enforce you,
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We're going to rejuvenate you. So
Van Halen to me represents my youth
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up until my adolescence, you know
what I mean. They've been cranking a
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long time. There are a lot
of great tunes I do like with him
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with Sammy. He also did a
squint with Gary Scharrone, who was the
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former lead singer of You Remember That
band More Than Words and Eddie. Van
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Halen also worked with Michael Jackson,
which he had a bad experience working with
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Michael Jackson. Oddly enough, Yeah, and he did the beat It riffuh
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and I believe he didn't accept payment
for that or credit. The only thing
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that I believed they gave him was
a six pack of beer. Yeah,
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I believe so. But and I
heard that Michael Jackson's monkey handed it to
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Eddie Van Halen and he gave him
that beer. So what that Hell's up
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with that? But I mean van
Eddie van Halen to me is probably another
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coming of Jimmy Hendrix, you know, just such as I thought of Steve
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ray Vaughn. But Eddie Van Halen
was in a class all by himself,
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classic pianist. He came his bloodline
came from musicians. Him and his brother
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I think they were, like you
know what I mean, no thunder and
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lightning. I would probably describe but
Halen Brothers as the thunder and lightning of
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rock and roll. And I think
you mix in some of the great backing
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vocals by Michael Anthony and the great
front man, the king performer, the
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circus leader Diamond David Lee Roth,
and you had a powerful storm when it
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came to Van Halen music. And
that storm continued even though the climbing changed
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a little bit with Sammy Hagar entering
the band. But definitely an improviser of
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so many different sounds of the guitar
tones, the way he would set his
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vibrato, I mean just I mean
dancing on the fred board, the way
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that he would do. I mean, you know, very rarely will you
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see it again, you know,
except for maybe if anybody recalls Randy Rhodes,
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who is very similar, also trained
classically in music. YEA. Individuals
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like that, Bro, they just
they make a concrete pillar in music and
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rock and roll, you know.
Eddie's. Eddie's nineteen seventy instrumental solo Eruption
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was voted number two in Guitar World's
reader's poll of the one hundred greatest Guitar
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solos of all Time. That's a
beautiful solos that he did, dude.
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I mean, you know, when
you first put the kneel on and it
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cranks on, you're just like blown
away. He's like, whoa, that's
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that's just just dude on the guitar. And you can, you know,
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you can listen to it and you
could visualize i mean, his hands working
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at fret, those strings getting bent
and to the magnitude that he's bending them
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in the speed just incredible, you
know what I mean, Like like a
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perfectly screeched hot rod rolling down the
highway full velocity. You know what I'm
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saying. Yeah, I know that
he was recognized as or popularized tapping.
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He didn't really invent the tapping technique
because it was already been used by Flamenco
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guitarists at least what a century or
half a century before then. Tapping the
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strings in rock, he was the
first and just a pioneer of it.
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So definitely we are going to be
remembering and honoring the memory of guitarist,
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songwriter and inventor Eddie Van Halen.
Coming up, we have a spectacular interview
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with two icons of rock and roll
FM Radio now Tiscano. Before we dive
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deeper into our show, let me
ask you what would be your favorite Van
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Halen song of David Lee Roth and
Sammy hagar vand well being that I was
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a teenager when Jump came out,
and that's the one that hit me first,
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I would say Jump, But I
also liked Panama. I mean,
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I liked all their stuff, but
I really liked Panama. However, there
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was a part in Panama, and
I know you'll remember where he starts talking
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very in a very sensual way,
and he says he leans his seat back
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and puts his hand between his legs
and j oh, yeah, when I
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kind of felt uncomfortable every time.
I used to hear that part back in
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the eighties. But I would still
say, jump in Panama are my favorite
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Van Halen songs. That's a classic
line. I gotta give it to Diamond
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Day for coming up with that line. And that's like, like I wanted
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to mention Van Halen had the sex
appeal. I think they brought the sex
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appeal to Los Angeles rock and roll. I think they they took a little
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bit of that bad boy kind of
exotic male stripper look oh pore rocker,
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and they glamorized it, and I
mean it's sold, you know what I
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mean. I mean, I think
so many bands try to be sexy and
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balls out like Van Halen, but
I mean, come on, man,
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you can be an imitator, but
you're not the innovator, that's right.
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You know. They were definitely entertainers
in the full sense of the word.
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And I mean they were performers.
When you went to see Van Halen,
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you went to see a show,
you know, a full blown show.
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And from the beginning to end.
Yes, you did it was it was
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just entertaining from A to Z.
Well, right, if you just caught
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us here on back to the eighties, you're just in time. We have
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a very special guest to continue the
talk and remembering and honoring one of the
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greatest musicians, rock guitarist songwriters of
all time, the great Eddie Van Halen.
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And tonight we're talking to Marshall Thomas
of kay Frog and ninety five point
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one FM in Los Angeles. Marshall
is also changing myself's mentor. I mean,
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how great is this for us to
have a mentor on the air on
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our show? How great is it
for Marshall to talk to two guys in
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the mentor position? How great is
that? You know? You know I
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would I would call that pretty kangarriffic, my friend, kangar rific. Man.
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Thanks, thanks for being with us, Marshall. I've been looking forward
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to actually since we set this up. Man, A great pleasure to be
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with you. Yeah, kay Frog
is just part of my resume, and
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quite honestly, like tens of thousands
of broadcasters, come March of twenty twenty,
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half of broadcasting got laid off.
My company alone owns two hundred and
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fifty radio stations, and every part
time employee there got laid off two hundred
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fifty stations. Multiply that by iHeart. You know, Bonneville Cathedral, all
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the other big broadcast entities. Radio
took a major, major hit this year.
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And will it recover like everything else, we don't know? Who knows?
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Well, that explains why we have
more podcasters competing with us. Dang
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it. Yeah, everybody in his
dog is trying to start a podcast.
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I literally at the beach the other
day and I had my window down.
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I drove by this couple, guy
and I gather on the street corner.
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I just hadn't turned the corner right
by them. And what I'm saying to
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the other, yeah, I'm thinking
about starting a podcast. I had my
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window down. I yelled out,
Yeah, I'm actually thinking about stopping a
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podcast. But anyway, it's the
wave of the future, really is,
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and it is whoever would have thought
this, right? I mean, when
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I was growing up and listening to
guys like you and to others really big
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here in Los Angeles, you know, we all wanted to be on the
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radio. We always I mean,
that was the goal, right, and
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it's still the goal for for a
lot of us. But however, we
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always imagined ourselves and pictured ourselves being
on the air at a studio. We
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never thought that the studio would come
to us at some point. I mean,
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that is just a marvel of technology, it really is. And you
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know, had you told me back
then, hey, guess what, one
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of these days you'll be carrying this
little device in your pocket and it has
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music and pictures and whatever the hell
you want, I'd be like, I
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know, that's jets and stuff,
that's sci fi. We are here and
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it's it's here to stay. Yeah, this year, twenty twenty is going
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to change the way we do everything, and it's already affecting twenty one.
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So this is it. I know
that we talked the last time, very
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briefly, that we had you on
the show, and it was great having
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you on. We learned quite a
bit about how radio was. But now,
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unfortunately, I mean, twenty twenties
just hit us in a way that
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no other year has. Somebody sent
me a very funny picture today and it
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had a black screen and on it
it was just it just said twenty twenty.
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Written by Stephen King, directed by
Quentin Tarantino and soundtrack soundtrack by Yoko
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Ono. Oh man, that's surrendous
alone. So Marshall, Marshall, you
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go all the way back to the
days of carts, true, yeah,
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and yeah that's ancient technology. The
carts that was taped, and they were
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in cartridges that look like an eight
track For anybody knows what an eight track
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looks like. Um, yeah,
exactly the car um they looked identical to
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an eight track, only they were
four track, not eight track. And
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that was only a radio cart and
what you play in your car. But
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yeah, I did use cards,
uh, and they sounded horriorable. But
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you also did real right, you
also did real man, Real to Real.
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Yeah, I still own a real
the real it's behind me, stuck
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behind me. I need to get
some belt support. You can still send
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away for him. And I'm going
to get my real to Real working again
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because I have hours and hours and
hours of my old air checks from all
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the way back to k West and
Kazy why and just Na Yeah, so
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yeah, I would like to digitize
some of that stuff at least before it
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all disintegrates. Because you mentioned CAZy. Why wasn't that ninety five point nine
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in Orange County, you know it
was. I was in Orange County,
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not too far from Disneyland. Yes, so it was ninety five nine,
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right, Yes, it was Ball
wrote it was on Ball Road. And
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then yeah, I remember there was
I was working at the time when I
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used to listen to to Kasy Wine. Now this may have been after you,
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but there was there was a character
on there named Scott Free. Do
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you remember that I worked with Scott
Free? I know Scott Free. Scott
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Free, unfortunately, uh passed?
Are you serious? Yeah? I worked
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with him, obvious enough, got
wonderful guy. And I'm getting hills right
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now. Oh my gosh, this
is just too much for me to know.
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I mean, twenty twenty and now
I know that I know. I
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probably Scott Free passed away away before
twenty twenty, but still this is news
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to me. Well, when I
went to work at Cape Prague, there
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was this guy doing seven at midnight
at Cape Progu and it was Scott Free
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and I knew and I knew of
him, never worked with him, but
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I knew of him. I mean, it's been around LA Radio a long
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long time, and so to actually
get to work with him, he's a
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gott. He had a great since
humor. He had an unusual voice,
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and a lot of that was from
health problems. His voice was kind of
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high pitched, but sure that was
due to things going on that he couldn't
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control. Yeah, and I remember
I remember working at a company that used
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to sell PSAs. Believe it or
not, they sold PSAs. Yeah,
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and the company probably still does.
But can I also want to give a
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warm welcome to Ted ziggin Bushes on
the line, Ted, can you hear
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us? Oh yes, I can. Can you hear me? We can
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hear you loud and clear. So
we're remembering and honoring the life of Eddie
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van Halen. We're gonna make it
very simple, guys. I just wanted
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to attack this on two fronts only, and that is on a professional level
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and on a personal level. So
basically asking the question to you three,
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and that is what kind of footprint
did Eddie van Halen leave in the music
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world. Let's start off. Let's
start off with that, Marshall, Oh
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gosh, whatever, you know.
You have to remember that he was a
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child prodigy. It wasn't just that
he you know, his mom dad bought
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him a guitar and he learned how
to play. It was way beyond that
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he was forced to be record with. He loved music so much that it
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was really part of them that the
guitar playing was his language. He was.
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I mean, he really was born
with a gift like Beetho or Bach.
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A lot of people may not know
that. When he was a real
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small kid, his parents would take
him down the Long Beach and he did
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this year after year where they had
a piano competition and two thousand kids would
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show up, and he won it
every year, five years straight. And
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his teacher would help him with his
music. And it got to the point
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where his teacher said, look,
you're gonna have to turn the pages that
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I can't stand here and turn the
pages for you. And he noticed one
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time that Eddie wasn't turning the pages. He had learned everything by year and
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watched his teacher's hands. That's genius. He was just he wasn't just a
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guitar player, and he wasn't.
He was beyond talented. It was here
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from the stores if you will.
Ozzy Osbourne said he and Randy Rose were
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probably the two best guitar players in
Rocket Road at that time. In that
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era, I would one hundred percent
agree with you Marshall on that one percent.
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They were like prodigies. It was
like their whole purpose in life was
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to create musical pictures that will will
will tend to stick with people forever,
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kind of open up their own mind, but musically, and you had to
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be on another level to connect with
that or understand that. I mean,
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I agree one hundred percent with you. Eddie van Halen is probably was that
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my generation's coming of Jimmy Hendrix.
His father was also trained in the music
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profession, So so I believe that
the brothers just were handed this this torch
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and and and they ran with it, and they ran with it as long
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as they could. Ted. What
do you think what type of footprint did
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Eddie van Halen leave on this earth? Well, you know a lot of
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people point toward Brian Wilson of the
Beach Boys as being a musical genius for
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the things that he did with being
normal tune or normal instruments and created something
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that nobody had ever heard before.
And Eddie pretty well did that. When
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he wanted the guitar to sound a
certain way, he was able to build
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his own unique sound that became the
signature's sound for van Halen and I shared
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a story a little bit earlier,
a few days ago, when we were
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launching rock station out in San Bernardino
that is still album rock to this day.
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Kay calfm. Very popular station was
soft rock when I worked there in
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the early seventies, much like a
coast in Los Angeles, and almost overnight,
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virtually we changed the station into twenty
four to seven album rock, and
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we had to, you know,
go through the library, grabbed the albums
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to make the launch of the station
a success. And there sat van Halen
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who had just come up on the
scene. And what could be hotter than
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that first album, the sound that
they gave us, the excitement that they
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were starting to project in the music
industry and specifically for album rock stations.
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Some people were saying, I believe
it or not that at that point,
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progressive rock or hard rock as it
was known, was beginning to fade,
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and Van Halen is credited with saving
that particular format. And I don't know
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if I can stretch stretch it to
that point, you know, but they
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certainly were the top headliner. They
proved that when they got the one and
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a half million, you know,
for their appearance California Jam nineteen eighty certainly
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shot them into a higher elevation than
they've been before. But when you look
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at that late nineteen seventies, when
you had things like the Knack with My
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Sharona and songs like that coming out, you could say that Van Halen pretty
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well saved you know, loud guitars. Yeah. Do you also have to
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attribute that they brought a sextiness to
rock and roll, something like the sextiness
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of a like a sunny and share
type of good look. They had that
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bad boy kind of theatrical sexty male
stripper look, I would think for some
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girls. I mean, you know, with the karate kicks of Diamond Dave,
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that's true, the hair from Eddie
van Halen, the little moves he
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would do, his painting painter pants
outfit, with the Frankenstein's guitar, Alex
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Alex van Halen with a headband and
no leave. Everybody was looking for their
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own unique stage presence. I mean, when you have to compete with the
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previous previous eras and people like Jim
Morrison and things like that, an ac
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DC had their version of stage presence
that just you know, drove the audience
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crazy with their antics. But you're
right, you know I had that that
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was not top of mind. But
now that you bring it up, that's
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absolutely true. And again, you
know, maybe it was right right place,
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right time, because when you start
looking at the early nineteen eighties,
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the movies that were coming out,
the hairstyles that everybody had, the mago,
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the fan magazines that everybody were.
I mean, we had gotten past
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Tiger Beat and in sixteen and some
of those teen magazines, and people that
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were over eighteen were actually looking at
these mags, you know, not um,
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not for anything else, but because
they were fans of the band,
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not just the music. But I
was thinking earlier, how many bands,
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unless you were a true rock and
roll fan and you just knew everything about
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every group and every artist, how
many people? Because I know Van Halen,
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you could name the members of Van
Halen off the top of your tongue
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because there was so much publicity about
them and so much information that was coming
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out, you know, whether whether
you talked about David Lee Roth being the
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lead singer or this you know brother
group one used to play the drums one,
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you know, and they flip flopped, and you knew the band members
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names. Even if you weren't a
diehard rock and roll fan, you knew
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plenty about Van Halen because they were
the headliner. They were up at the
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top, or they wouldn't have gotten
the money that they got for that show.
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Chang, what kind of a footprint
didn't leave on you as well?
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No, van Halen. I think
of van Halen as the soundtrack to my
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life. If I could put make
a movie of my memory of some of
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the things that I've done, the
experiences, the antick, I would have
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to say that van Halen is in
that an impression in my mind and it
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goes with majority of my life.
I think in that aspect. But the
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footprint Eddie van Halen left with me
and the band van Halen was pure,
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unadult created. Oh kick ass,
la love us or had us. We're
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rob We're brutal to me. Van
Halen represents kind of the mindset of my
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fellow eighties rocks, where where we're
gonna take it to you hard. We're
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gonna pool no punches, We're gonna
hit you in the face with everything we
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can. We're gonna dazzle you,
entertain you, make you laugh, make
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you fall in love with us,
and you're never going to forget us.
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That's to me what Van Halen represents. And you're gonna look sexy while doing
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it. How about you, Marshall? About you, Marshall, what type
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of footprint or you know, market
that leave in your life. I didn't
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try to follow him that reason.
Now, you know what I appreciated was
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I'm a little bit older than Chang
even uh you know, and I grew
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up with a record collection. Starting
at ten years old, I started collecting
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records and so I was listening to
at that age people like Roy Orbison,
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Jean Vincent, Thatdy cochrane Um.
So when Van Halen came along, I
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thought, okay, these cats are
pretty cool because you know, they did
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a Kinks song if you remember early
on you Really Got Me Yes, Yeah,
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a lot of it, and I
thought these guys are pricking off the
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hook. And then later on they
did the Roy Orbison song or a Pretty
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Woman. It was in your face, loud and proud, and it had
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finesse and the sexy aspect of it
and there was no turning it down.
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When a Van Halen song came on
the radio and we were all very happy
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to play them. You knew people
were turning up their radio all over town
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and in their cars or wherever they
were because it was preaking Van Halen.
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Yeah, for me personally, and
you know, I went to see him.
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Of course, you know, back
in the day radio was a little
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more generous with tickets and things with
that nature. Things were pretty tight now
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and the yeah, twenty first century. But um, we went to every
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show all the time. And yeah, I was blown away, as I
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was with so many other acts.
But they had everything. Diamond Dave at
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that point was healthy enough to jump
and dive and and you know, do
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acrobatics and uh, you know,
just the whole band they were. You
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knew they were a unit because they
would look at each other and all that's
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all it took to make a change. It If a key change came up,
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all they did was look and not
and that it was synchronicity at its
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best. Yeah, and Haleen,
Yes, I agree. You know,
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I had no idea that he was
from the Netherlands and that his family had
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moved to Pasadena. I thought they
were from Pasadena originally, but they moved
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to Pasadena nineteen sixty two. I
had no idea that they were Dutch and
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they didn't wear wouldn't It's a European
name, man. Yeah, yeah,
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no, I knew. I knew
that. I just you know, I
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expected him. Born and raised in
good old, good old Pasadena. You
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know, their album nineteen eighty four
went five times Platinum of the year after
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its release. And then the lead
single Jump, which is Enter Tuscano,
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where I entered the whole scene with
van Halen back when MTV actually played music,
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And the first thing on my mind
when I used to watch that video
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jump beside David Lee Roth doing the
splits, was van Halen? Did you
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know that he did the original synth
on that and also the guitar of course,
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yes, yeah, I had known
that because I have that album and
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I used to watch MT. But
I will always stand on this video killed
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the radio, so I will go
with that. But you know, I
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used to like to check it out
and then check out some cliff notes and
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stuff. I mean, you know
me, dude, I just I live
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and breathe rock and roll. Rock
and roll is pretty much one of my
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hobbies, is one of my loves. Just it's in the blood now that
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we're remember and now let me ask
you this on a more I guess somber
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note. The day that we found
out. I know it caught everybody as
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any anytime that somebody who is well
known passes on, we all feel it
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as a shock, as as death
usually hits everybody, but when it's somebody
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who has done so much in a
music world, in this case, it
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hit the musician especially hard. Marshall, would you be able to talk to
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this point a little bit? Oh, yeah, you know, these are
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devastating. I may help for someone
my age. When I opened the paper
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one day and saw I always died, I weave, I wept, it
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was It's just that a crushing blow. Yeah. And so for all the
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rockers out there from seventy seven on
that followed Hill, back in the days
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when they were playing Gazarre for Nothing
and the Go Go and all those clubs
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um down the boulevard. Perspiration radio
stations I worked out was a block away
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from the Whiskey. We were there
all the time, and they played there
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all the time, and so they
became more than just a rock fan,
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especially to La fans. You could
go up to the old house in Pasadena.
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Everybody knows the address and drive by
it. A bunch of flowers and
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stuff out in front of it now. But um, no they were.
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It's a shock you It raises goose
bumps when you read the news of somebody
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like that passing. It's it's and
musicians, and most of my friends are
396
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proponents of my friends armed musicians,
and it's yeah, it's it's. It's
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tough. Um he uh the band
itself and Eddie was I forced to be
398
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recond with, and um, you
know obviously he had his share issues.
399
00:30:53.200 --> 00:30:56.839
A lot of musicians do, um
and it took its toll on some of
400
00:30:56.839 --> 00:31:00.079
those fellow musicians. When the word
gets out it's it'll it'll stop you in
401
00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:03.319
your tracks and you say, wow, you know, sixty five years old,
402
00:31:04.119 --> 00:31:11.160
really he should still be with us
and rocking. Yeah, Ted,
403
00:31:11.240 --> 00:31:15.480
what about you? Yeah? You
know when I first heard, um,
404
00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:19.319
I was in shock. And then
for a minute, you know, it
405
00:31:19.480 --> 00:31:22.480
came back to me again that he
had been ill, and he'd been you
406
00:31:22.519 --> 00:31:26.160
know, he had been fighting the
cancer that he had. But still,
407
00:31:26.359 --> 00:31:30.160
you know, it hits you like
a ton of bricks, because, um,
408
00:31:30.279 --> 00:31:36.079
when you connect the music to things
that happened in your life, to
409
00:31:36.279 --> 00:31:41.559
events in your life where you were
involved with that music. Now specifically For
410
00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:44.319
me, it was because I was
on the radio, and you know,
411
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that was one of the exciting points
of my career. And Van Halen just
412
00:31:48.599 --> 00:31:52.400
happened to be there launching their first
album at the time that I got into
413
00:31:52.440 --> 00:31:56.359
album rock. But you know,
then I moved to another station across town
414
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out in San Bernardino, and when
the first time I heard Jump, I
415
00:32:02.519 --> 00:32:07.759
said, oh my god, that's
one of those songs that literally jumps out
416
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of the radio at you. That's
exactly what radio stations are looking for to
417
00:32:14.720 --> 00:32:16.720
make them sound unique. And I
think that's one of the things about rock
418
00:32:16.839 --> 00:32:22.680
music that as as programmers or people
involved with it. While everybody says,
419
00:32:22.720 --> 00:32:27.480
you know, country music, I'll
sayd every song sounds the same, you
420
00:32:27.480 --> 00:32:30.920
know. And pop music became that
way for a really long time. And
421
00:32:31.000 --> 00:32:37.000
we went through the seventies with the
mellow music. Not to criticize but Olivia
422
00:32:37.079 --> 00:32:40.680
Newton, John and John Denver and
all of that that everything sounded the same.
423
00:32:42.400 --> 00:32:45.920
And then you have somebody come on
the scene who shakes things up and
424
00:32:46.200 --> 00:32:52.160
really gets excitement back into the into
radio stations again. And when you look
425
00:32:52.200 --> 00:32:58.839
back on that and you when you
think about the fact that these guys,
426
00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:04.359
um, we're not taken seriously by
a lot of people. Early on in
427
00:33:04.359 --> 00:33:07.799
their career. There were people who
said, well, Gene Simmons, you
428
00:33:07.799 --> 00:33:12.079
know, trying to trying to get
them signed to his label and having people
429
00:33:12.200 --> 00:33:15.759
say to him there's there's no way
these guys are going to make it.
430
00:33:15.279 --> 00:33:20.720
And I've heard from people and maybe
you've you've also seen you know, post
431
00:33:20.759 --> 00:33:25.640
pop up on Facebook in different places. People used to go to shows early
432
00:33:25.720 --> 00:33:29.920
in the career, before you know, they got their record deal. These
433
00:33:29.920 --> 00:33:34.680
guys would would appear in places like
a canyon out in the National Forest,
434
00:33:35.119 --> 00:33:37.279
two or three hundred people would hear
about the concert. They would show up
435
00:33:37.599 --> 00:33:40.200
here. The guys play a lot
of cover tunes. You know, they
436
00:33:40.240 --> 00:33:45.680
were granted they were playing cover tunes. But I heard from a guy who
437
00:33:45.759 --> 00:33:52.680
said I remembered seeing them. And
then one night I was driving along and
438
00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:57.839
I had Kmet on the radio and
I heard them say and here's a couple
439
00:33:57.839 --> 00:34:04.079
of guys from Pasadena with with uh, you really got me? And he
440
00:34:04.160 --> 00:34:07.880
said, I I really. I
had to. I almost you know,
441
00:34:07.079 --> 00:34:12.400
had to hit the brakes and pull
off the road. I thought, I
442
00:34:12.480 --> 00:34:15.880
thought these guys would never make it. I liked them, I thought they
443
00:34:15.880 --> 00:34:20.639
were a good band, but oh
my god, they're on KMID, you
444
00:34:20.679 --> 00:34:25.519
know, And and you look back
and you think about the talent, the
445
00:34:25.639 --> 00:34:32.280
excitement, um, the the energy
that they brought the album rock into music
446
00:34:32.320 --> 00:34:37.119
in those days, and it hurts
to think, you know, because you
447
00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:40.719
obviously you start thinking about your own
mortality. When we hear about rock stars
448
00:34:40.840 --> 00:34:45.840
dying at seventy, that's one thing. But when people start dying in that
449
00:34:45.960 --> 00:34:50.320
middle gap, you know, okay, he's not twenty seven, he didn't
450
00:34:50.360 --> 00:34:53.159
do an overdose. Okay he's not
seventy, and we didn't hear him for
451
00:34:53.239 --> 00:34:58.800
decades. It's like god, you
know, it's so it's so tough,
452
00:34:58.920 --> 00:35:02.280
and you think, you know,
well, yeah, living the rock and
453
00:35:02.400 --> 00:35:07.519
roll is a dream to be a
part of it, but it's also a
454
00:35:07.599 --> 00:35:09.800
very tough life. You know,
the time on the road, the ups
455
00:35:09.840 --> 00:35:15.920
and downs, the contracts you lose, the times that you feel rock bottom
456
00:35:15.960 --> 00:35:20.679
and nobody wants to take your phone
calls, and you know, you just
457
00:35:20.760 --> 00:35:27.360
wonder how much that wears on a
person's health, mental health and physical health
458
00:35:27.719 --> 00:35:32.519
over the years. And it's just
sad to see somebody that talented leave so
459
00:35:32.639 --> 00:35:36.679
early. You know, Eddie van
Halen, I heard him on an interview
460
00:35:36.679 --> 00:35:39.760
today just briefly saying that if they
wouldn't have made it with their big album
461
00:35:40.000 --> 00:35:44.199
in nineteen seventy eight or seventy nine
or something like that, their very first
462
00:35:44.199 --> 00:35:46.079
one where they jumped nineteen on the
billboards, he said, we would have
463
00:35:46.079 --> 00:35:50.920
probably been the world's greatest cover band. Dang, how did that affect you
464
00:35:51.679 --> 00:35:54.320
on a personal level? Well,
you know what I can I agree with
465
00:35:54.400 --> 00:36:00.760
both gentlemen, and Ted nailed it
immortality. When I first heard the news,
466
00:36:00.800 --> 00:36:05.079
it was a mortality kick. I
literally had to sit down where I
467
00:36:05.159 --> 00:36:09.480
was standing and my youth ran in
front of my eyes, my teenage youth,
468
00:36:09.559 --> 00:36:15.440
and I went over a lot of
my friends that I have lost at
469
00:36:15.639 --> 00:36:21.360
at our age. At fifty five, I think I've lost maybe twenty seven
470
00:36:21.400 --> 00:36:24.719
to thirty five class members of my
high school. So, you know,
471
00:36:24.800 --> 00:36:29.320
the first thing I thought of was
that. The second thing I thought,
472
00:36:29.400 --> 00:36:34.079
I was blessed, and I was
very fortunate to have seen him play three
473
00:36:34.119 --> 00:36:40.599
times and it was just like,
Wow, what an incredible loss to humanity.
474
00:36:42.960 --> 00:36:45.360
And I mean that by the music
that he made, Everything that he
475
00:36:45.480 --> 00:36:51.840
made was it was almost like a
fine whiskey, a fine wine. No
476
00:36:51.880 --> 00:36:55.920
one else could duplicate that that taste. Nobody could come up with that ingredient.
477
00:36:58.039 --> 00:37:01.599
No one will ever make you feel
exactly the way he did when he
478
00:37:01.760 --> 00:37:07.840
picked up Frankenstein and picked those strings. So to me, it was a
479
00:37:08.079 --> 00:37:12.599
reality check, a smack in the
face, and one of the hardest,
480
00:37:12.599 --> 00:37:16.320
bitterest farewells. As a rocker and
a music band, you have to put
481
00:37:16.360 --> 00:37:19.920
in your mind and stay goodbye right
then and there you look up to the
482
00:37:20.000 --> 00:37:22.199
I looked up to this guy through
my peace sign and through a kiss up
483
00:37:22.199 --> 00:37:24.679
to him. You know, thanks
for the music, thanks for the memories.
484
00:37:25.440 --> 00:37:34.239
When when we lose individuals with that
kind of charismatic beauty, that talent,
485
00:37:34.760 --> 00:37:38.440
that ray of sunlight, it kind
of puts us all in the realm
486
00:37:38.480 --> 00:37:44.760
of while the world really is changing, just like it did when John Lennon
487
00:37:44.840 --> 00:37:47.719
passed. So I attribute Eddie Van
Hayden like that, We're never going to
488
00:37:47.760 --> 00:37:53.880
have another individual like that again.
We will never be touched or entertained that
489
00:37:54.039 --> 00:37:59.119
beautiful again. So I would say
that's the way I'd sum it up.
490
00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:06.480
What do you guys think that this
generation of both musicians and music lovers can
491
00:38:06.599 --> 00:38:13.000
learn from the legacy of Eddie van
Halen Marshall. Wouldn't you say to a
492
00:38:13.000 --> 00:38:20.280
young musician about Eddie van Halen something
he would teach the musician of today is
493
00:38:20.519 --> 00:38:24.239
hone your craft, stay original,
play with your heart, play with your
494
00:38:24.239 --> 00:38:30.880
emotion. Educate yourself on your music
and your instrument. Make your instrument become
495
00:38:30.960 --> 00:38:37.440
your soul, your voice, your
touch of your finger. That in the
496
00:38:37.480 --> 00:38:39.840
beauty of itself, is what music
is all about. It's that touch,
497
00:38:39.920 --> 00:38:47.199
that connection, that vibration, that
unity that I think we now in this
498
00:38:47.239 --> 00:38:53.079
modern time needs so much of unity. I think you're familiar with what I
499
00:38:53.159 --> 00:39:00.119
used to say on Tuscano and Chang. Only through unity will we seek prosperity.
500
00:39:00.360 --> 00:39:05.000
And I think Eddie van Halen and
van Halen's the music illuminated that to
501
00:39:05.119 --> 00:39:10.159
all of us degree. I personally
got goosebumps when you started your latest thoughts
502
00:39:10.159 --> 00:39:15.480
there because in my mind kept I
kept hearing hone your craft and then you
503
00:39:15.480 --> 00:39:21.760
you use those exact words I mean
to an artist, to a musician,
504
00:39:22.840 --> 00:39:27.039
getting in the getting on the road
is everything because you want to see the
505
00:39:27.199 --> 00:39:30.079
reaction from the fans, You want
to feel the energy from the fans,
506
00:39:30.280 --> 00:39:34.519
and you want the income, you
know, and you want the promotion and
507
00:39:34.559 --> 00:39:39.599
the marketing of your latest product,
and right now that's just not possible.
508
00:39:40.000 --> 00:39:47.840
And unfortunately, because radio is going
through their own dilemma, not an identity
509
00:39:47.880 --> 00:39:52.719
crisis, but just a health crisis
as to how do we handle this,
510
00:39:53.239 --> 00:39:59.079
how do we employ enough people?
How do we market our product? When
511
00:39:59.440 --> 00:40:04.119
people are working as much, when
people are traveling as much, there's not
512
00:40:04.199 --> 00:40:08.480
going to be the exposure of the
music that there was even ten years ago.
513
00:40:09.159 --> 00:40:14.960
And hone your craft. You can
always be better than you are today.
514
00:40:15.039 --> 00:40:19.719
I mean there, I mean you
know when you we've lost you know,
515
00:40:19.840 --> 00:40:22.440
several musicians over the last few years, but you know, you look
516
00:40:22.480 --> 00:40:29.159
like a group like Es that started
touring again and drawing. And then Chris
517
00:40:29.199 --> 00:40:34.760
Squire passes away and John Anderson has
a voice problem and he can't sing with
518
00:40:34.800 --> 00:40:40.159
the group and they have to look
for another lead vocalist. And it's you
519
00:40:40.239 --> 00:40:45.039
hate to say it, but it's
constant change. There will always be changed,
520
00:40:45.079 --> 00:40:49.960
there will always be valleys, and
you have to find your way to
521
00:40:50.599 --> 00:40:53.880
dig out of it. And um, you know, I wish Eddie had
522
00:40:53.920 --> 00:40:58.800
been able to dig out of his
his you know, health valleys. But
523
00:40:59.800 --> 00:41:05.239
I understand that he and Hagar,
you know, kind of reconciled for whatever
524
00:41:05.400 --> 00:41:10.360
that's worth, however much you want
to buy into that. But you know,
525
00:41:10.440 --> 00:41:14.880
the difficulties that happen. This is
a time not to have strife within
526
00:41:14.880 --> 00:41:17.519
a group or strife within partners.
This is a time to bond together and
527
00:41:17.559 --> 00:41:21.320
just say, look, we got
a lot of time to practice, we
528
00:41:21.440 --> 00:41:24.199
got we got time to be creative, we got time to think. You
529
00:41:24.239 --> 00:41:28.920
know, because you're not on the
road and you're not participating on a regular
530
00:41:28.960 --> 00:41:32.199
basis, now is the time to
get experimental and see if you want to
531
00:41:32.239 --> 00:41:36.480
do this over here or that over
there. I mean Crosbie Stills, a
532
00:41:36.599 --> 00:41:40.360
Nash Young, they you know,
they reinvented themselves from the first album to
533
00:41:40.480 --> 00:41:45.320
Deja Vu to the next thing and
then came almost full circle again back to
534
00:41:45.400 --> 00:41:51.840
more acoustic stuff. So it's just
an I look at it as an opportunity
535
00:41:52.199 --> 00:41:55.400
and you have to stay optimistic or
you'll you'll you go, you know,
536
00:41:55.480 --> 00:42:00.559
you'll go work at some checkstand,
you know, just to keep your sanity.
537
00:42:00.800 --> 00:42:04.480
You can't be in it for the
books. You have to be in
538
00:42:04.519 --> 00:42:08.000
it for the passion, and you
have to always say I'm gonna make it,
539
00:42:08.719 --> 00:42:12.480
I'm gonna make it, I'm gonna
make it. I know Eddie and
540
00:42:12.559 --> 00:42:15.920
his brother must have said that,
you know, I'm sure they didn't.
541
00:42:15.239 --> 00:42:20.280
They didn't reject the first rejection letter
they got or the first people that said,
542
00:42:20.320 --> 00:42:22.320
you guys aren't going to make it. They didn't care. They enjoyed
543
00:42:22.360 --> 00:42:27.000
performing, they enjoyed getting in front
of two hundred people, you know,
544
00:42:27.639 --> 00:42:30.840
And you just have to remember that. And I think one of the biggest
545
00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:35.199
things that I've learned from all of
this, and as a musician and as
546
00:42:35.480 --> 00:42:38.280
a music lover myself, and something
that I think that this generation needs to
547
00:42:38.400 --> 00:42:44.480
learn is that the musician does something
from the heart. People like Eddie van
548
00:42:44.559 --> 00:42:50.159
Halen don't come around sue often.
And whatever he left for the world to
549
00:42:50.559 --> 00:42:52.840
enjoy, we can all get a
little bit of that. We can all
550
00:42:52.960 --> 00:42:59.119
get his feeling, his heart,
his spirit, and his essence for what
551
00:42:59.239 --> 00:43:01.280
he played. And I think that
he knew that, and I know that
552
00:43:01.280 --> 00:43:07.159
that he wanted to share that exact
same thing and leave that as his eternal
553
00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:13.159
legacy for everybody. We're gonna be
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to the eighties. We never stop, didn't hurt, didn't hurt, didn't
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hurt, no style, unforgettable memories
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eighties. This was back to the
eighties Tisconna from Tisconna, Win chang Here
564
00:44:05.639 --> 00:44:09.119
we were talking with Marshall Thomas and
Ted ziggen Bush, one of our great
565
00:44:09.199 --> 00:44:13.559
mentors. Mister Marshall Thomas, Let
me ask you this. I'll start with
566
00:44:13.599 --> 00:44:17.920
you, what is your favorite Van
Halen song? Oh? Gosh, Well,
567
00:44:17.920 --> 00:44:22.840
I had mentioned earlier that it was
their cover songs that they were so
568
00:44:22.920 --> 00:44:27.000
famous for doing in the clubs and
such that when they recorded them that they
569
00:44:27.320 --> 00:44:32.000
really did a good job. Not
all cover copies are in my estimation as
570
00:44:32.039 --> 00:44:36.159
a record collector. Over the years, I collected cover copies on purpose and
571
00:44:36.400 --> 00:44:42.559
some are real clinkers and stinkers,
and some rival the original. And I
572
00:44:42.599 --> 00:44:45.039
thought, when I heard Van Halen
do the Kinks, you really got me
573
00:44:45.119 --> 00:44:51.119
and Roy Orbison's a pretty woman,
I thought, yeah, you can put
574
00:44:51.199 --> 00:44:55.239
up and turn it up to eleven
and about happy Trails. Yeah, right
575
00:44:55.320 --> 00:44:59.880
on, you know. So I
would have to say probably one of the
576
00:45:00.199 --> 00:45:02.159
of those. Probably, um there. I still if I hear one of
577
00:45:02.159 --> 00:45:06.599
those songs, it gets you going, it's a going, I'll turn it
578
00:45:06.679 --> 00:45:09.400
up. And so yeah, I
would have to say it's there's some of
579
00:45:09.400 --> 00:45:12.920
their cover cops. Not that I
didn't like to Jump and you know,
580
00:45:14.199 --> 00:45:17.320
Jamie's crying and all of those.
Um Panama, it's got to be one
581
00:45:17.360 --> 00:45:23.679
of my favorites. But yeah,
there's two numerous to pick one. Yeah,
582
00:45:23.840 --> 00:45:27.239
Ted, Well, what's your favorite
Van Halen song of all time?
583
00:45:28.199 --> 00:45:30.400
Normally I would say Jump because I
love that song so much, and I
584
00:45:30.440 --> 00:45:34.880
love Panama too, by the way, I love songs to jump out of
585
00:45:34.920 --> 00:45:37.760
the radio at you. But because
it was the debut album, because it
586
00:45:37.760 --> 00:45:42.840
never became a single, but yet
it ended up being I would say,
587
00:45:42.840 --> 00:45:47.880
our most requested song on k CALFM
when when I was doing mornings out in
588
00:45:47.960 --> 00:45:52.199
San Bernardino, every time I pick
up the phone, and believe me,
589
00:45:52.320 --> 00:45:57.079
because we were the new kid in
town with the rock and roll and we
590
00:45:57.119 --> 00:46:00.880
didn't have anybody out there other than
the weeks from Kalos or km ET in
591
00:46:00.960 --> 00:46:07.719
Los Angeles. When we started playing
that Van Halen album and every time you
592
00:46:07.800 --> 00:46:10.400
picked up the phone, Hello,
kay, cal can you play Jamie's crying?
593
00:46:12.559 --> 00:46:15.599
I mean, they got to the
point where we didn't. We didn't,
594
00:46:15.679 --> 00:46:19.400
you know, we didn't get upset. We said, my god,
595
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they loved this song, they loved
this group, they loved this music.
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They love us, you know.
I mean we felt united with Van Halen
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because they were at the launch of
us, launching a great sound and a
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great radio station. And to me, that song is just locked in my
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brain with the endorphins that went off
and the early days of rock and roll
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out in San Bernardino, let me
tell you, in nineteen seventy nine,
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seventy eight, seventy nine, they
desperately needed that kind of sound and that
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kind of music, And I'm just
glad that we were able to provide it
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and that there's something like Halen's music
to look back on and think, Wow,
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what what a marriage, what a
connection that was back then? Jang
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Chang, what about you, mister
rock and roller. You're you're gonna pick
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something out of your sleeve that nobody's
heard of. Well, my two favorite
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songs are Atomic Punk and Debtor Alive. But I also thoroughly love you can
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take your Whiskey Home like Sweet Day
would say. So those are probably my
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three all time favorite Van Halen songs. Each of them represent a very special
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time in my mind and in my
life. Guys, thank you so much,
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Marshall, Ted, thank you so
much for taking the time. And
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you guys have a very good night
rest of the week, and just be
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safe out there. Thank you.
Got I want to thank you guys for
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joining us here back to the eighties, letting you guys know that we're here
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every single Friday for you to come
back to so you can reminisce, you
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can enjoy the nostalgia the memories that
made that decade so great. From Tiscano.
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Have a great week, be he
go set your footprint in the world
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by introducing the eighties to a whole
new generation. See you next Friday.
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Chang here everybody, I want you
to have a great weekend. Stay lifted
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and give to put a smile down
that face, and go out there and
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stand up for something good, bigger
than yourself, and remember to always always
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do what you gotta do to be
the right kind of person for somebody else.
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As I release you, I want
to wish you all a nadios rib
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asta la vista into all my homies
in the hood or done Wow.



















