Episode 22 - The 80s Great Analog Decade

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Oh dear, I have to call
mum. I've been listening to eighties

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music old data on one. I
don't know what to do. So what

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did I put that number? Jeez? Oh, oh goodness, gracious,

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here we go. Mom. With
this digital age, we'd never have to

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remember any phone numbers. And Mum, I can't even read. And somebody

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bring me my glasses. Here we
go. Mum's phone number five five five

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five five five five five. Mum, I didn't think that's right. You

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didn't give me the bloody correct number. Oh here we go, oh speed

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dial one. Of course, I've
got to put the music down because mother

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never likes me. She'd never approved
of the music. I loved eighties music

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all the way. I've got something
to tell her. One of these days,

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little bag, One day she won't
be here. Okay, hello,

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chim Oh, mummy, how are
you, mummy? What's that noise in

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the background? Are you listening to
him music? Charles, and listen sticky

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queen right now, fat bottom girls
his honor? I just do that song?

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Could you? How could you?
You've never let me listen to that

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music when I was a little boy. Oh that's because you was always wearing

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girls, bathing girls out bitter know
that want you to be queer and other

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of that. But that wasn't my
fault, Charles. Please, you and

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your brothers would play dress up and
you were always abroad. I never understood.

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I don't know what Diana seen in
you. You are a twitch all

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fat bottom girls. You'll make old
rocket whoa who. I just feel so

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giddy, child. I had a
couple of mixed strengths and I'm feeling bloody

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hell mother. Okay, well,
that's not the reason I was calling.

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I was calling to let you know
that I had to fire everyone of the

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landscaping team as they did not find
those secret letters that we hid you nowhere.

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We don't understand why you keep releasing
people from good work. Mother.

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I've got to be honest with you. You know where we hid those secret

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letters. Nobody can find them anymore. This bloody team of Landscape was hid

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them somewhere. Now they can't remember. I told you not to let anybody

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play with that dancing kind of weed. It's not tea they're smoking at Charles.

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Well, what do we do then, mother? Fut bottom girls?

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You like the rocket world? Oh? Mother, turned the bloody thing off?

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Oh stifle yourself, Charles, I
think you need to take a truth

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back to the eighties with our good
friends of capitalist boys to Scanna with Shah.

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I love it, I love love
love It loves me point plan.

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Welcome back to the eighties. This
is Toscanno from Toscano and Chang and we're

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with you once again every Friday to
introduce the eighties to a whole new generation.

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We're bringing in the nostalgia and the
memories during these challenging times. You

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know, we started this year not
knowing or expecting anything really different than any

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other year. Since February or March
of this year, we've been introduced to

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a new way of living, and
for the time being, back to the

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Eighties can be a little moment of
escape from it all. So I want

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to thank you, guys, think
everyone who follows us on Facebook as we've

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passed our five thousand followers, and
a big shout out to some really,

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really cool people that are listening to
the show right now. I want to

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give a big shout out, especially
to the mime of Reason, to the

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man, the myth, the legend
who is always with me, the chant

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hello and goodbye Toscato. It is
always great pleasure to sit beside the greatest

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Italian individual I've ever met, decided
Chef Boyardi. But I have his picture

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all over my kitchen cabinet work,
do you really? I just, of

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course I'm a big Chef Boyard fan. I also like the movie RATATOUI.

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That's how much I love the Italian
food. You know, Chef Boyardi was

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really big in the eighties. Convenient, yeah, very convenient. Now,

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Now do you like the way that
I brought that into the show, Because

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this is a show that we do, the no Fraud podcast of Back to

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the Eighties, which all of our
content is that of the eighties, is

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it not to Scano. I mean
every rock we turn over it has some

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type of a mildew from the eighties. And when I when I when I

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bring up eighties molden mildew, I
just have to think of that good God

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that Choose Live shirt by by Wam
that was one of the most repulsive shirts

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I think I've ever seen. But
you gotta give it up to Wham.

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You gotta give it up to Wham, you know, and we'll we'll get

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into Wam one of these days.
And uh, you know, we all

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know how much of a fan you
are a Wham. Well, I'll give

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it up to you. George Michael
mad respect for George Michael. I always

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felt that George Michael would have been
an excellent replacement for Freddie Mercury when he

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passed to join Queen. I remember
seeing the tribute show and to me that

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that entire show, I was taken
by all the performers that did tribute to

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Freddie, but I was most taken
by George Michael's version that he did that

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that evening. I think, yeah, he was pretty incredible. I mean

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he had the mustache and the black
hair with bangs going. I mean he

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was almost of Freddie Mercury. He
was, Yeah, he was in more

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than one way. I want to
give a big shout out to a few

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names here and so you'll have to
party. But the list is a little

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lengthy, but you know what,
these people are listening to us today,

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and I want to remind you that
if you want your name mentioned here and

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as a big thank you, go
ahead and uh, you know, send

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us a direct message by way of
Facebook and we will mention your name on

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air. But in the meantime,
I want to give a big shout out

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to Qua, to Elan, to
Yan, to mister Mark Hernandez, to

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Mike Carlos, to Fiona Daniels and
to her brother Liam. I want to

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give a fantastic thank you and a
fantastic shout out to Big Johnny. We're

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gonna go down the list of Jay's. I got a big shout out to

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Johnny. Hey, what's up?
Jake, what's crack? And Jason or

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less Sarah, Jan how are you
all doing? You hanging top? Thanks

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for joining us, Tuscano. I
think before we end our shout out,

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we have to give out some shout
outs to some areas on the globe that

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are listening to us, that are
going to probably floor our average listener wondering

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how the heck did anybody out there
listening to these bozos. I want to

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give a shit a shout out to
the Union shout out. I want to

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give a big shot out to Donald
Troupe. Luck good thing you're editing that.

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I don't know if you're editing that. I want to give a big

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shout out to the United Kingdom.
I want to give a shout out to

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all my beautiful women of the Germany. That's right, so Women's Day sicily

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hot. I also want to give
a big shout out to everybody in Austria.

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How are you? Everything is good
great from me over here, even

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though not your governor, it doesn't
matter because everything is great. And then

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working out. I want to give
a big shout out to everybody from Australia

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who's listening to us, from South
Australia to New South Wales, to Queensland,

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even to the capital Territory there in
Australia. So a big, big

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shout out. And if you're from
the Hindley Street Country Club, all the

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musicians and singers, our hats off
to you. Thank you for listening,

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for being part of Back to the
Eighties, both listening and bringing us the

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awesome music that you guys do.
Thank you, guys right on, a

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big old shantastic thank you for me. Also, kids, I also want

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to give a big shout out to
Mexico and to Argentina, to Italy,

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to Ukraine, to Russia, to
Israel. Who's listening to us? Namibia.

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There's people from Africa listening to us. I mean, there are people

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all over the globe. We've got
people from Ireland, we got people from

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Spain and Poland. We got a
couple of cats from France. That's right,

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France is listening to Toscano and Chang
and Back to the eighties, and

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I'll guarantee they are on the dance
out in France. And we're going to

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be giving a special shout out every
single week to mention and to thank you

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guys for listening. In the meantime, we've got a terrific show for you

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guys today as we're going to be
talking about how we used to listen to

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music, watch movies and celebrate life
in general, how the analog age is

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almost gone and has been taken over
completely almost by the digital age. So

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stick around because to Skano and Chang
and back to the eighties is coming right

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back. We never stops, did
hurt, Dien hurt, been hurt,

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nonstyle, unforgettable memories from the eighties. Back to the eighties. All right,

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everybody, all you cats and kitties, you are back in the swing

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of things that in me when one
and only No Fraud Podcasts show back to

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the eighties and I am Chang the
co host with Toscano, and we are

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bringing you back in today, like
my good man said, we're gonna be

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talking about the analog generation and how
it's about to kind of climb out of

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its present status of the way that
we so falled did business to communicate and

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get to such type programming. Now, to Skano, we both know that

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if it wasn't for Uh, this
would be no Tuscano and changing. And

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that's right. This is also it
kind of transcended from i'd say, early

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radio into where we are now.
Would you not agree? I would definitely

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agree. The analog world as we
once knew it, although it wasn't the

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best sounding experience for everyone at that
time, the one thing it had going

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for it was it involved you,
it involved me. We actually had to

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do something physically without having to rely
on a machine completely to do everything and

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to produce the outcome that we wanted
to get. The digital age came to

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make things, Yeah, a little
bit easier in some areas, of course,

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but in some others, Brother,
it has over complicated things. And

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and I want us to go over
some of those things that either have been

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over complicated or they're easier now or
there they were easier back then. So

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this get into it. What do
you think. Yeah, let's do it,

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full throttle, front and center.
All right. So back in the

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analog age of the good old nineteen
eighties, I can tell you one of

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the things that was much easier for
me in general was making a phone call.

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Phone calls were just easier. Now. I know you're probably thinking,

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I mean, how hard it can
a phone call be? You just put

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your phone out, let it read
your eyeballs, input a code, open

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up your phone, scroll through a
bunch of screens, and then find a

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person and then just tap on the
name and it makes the phone call.

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Well, all you had to do
back then is pick up the phone and

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dial the number. Yes, do
you remember the times when we actually remembered

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phone numbers. I mean we had
our brain was much more exercised than today,

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and then we had so many phone
numbers that we, you know,

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we actually needed what used to be
called a phone book where we actually wrote

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down people's phone numbers. But remember
that's when the rolodex had its way on

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every desktop across the flying modern day
world, whether it would be your office

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rolodex or your workplace rolodex. Rolodex
was sacred. I remember sometimes when my

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father would go out of town,
he would take his Rolodex with him and

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I always thought, wold, now
that's something. Well, now you gotta

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you gotta think about this. We
have a lot of people who are from

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this generation that have no idea what
a rolodex is. Can you let everybody

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know what that is? Now?
A rolodex is a device that it's a

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spinning mechanism. It's almost like you're
spinning bingo balls. But attached to it

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are our little Manila color colored cards
and you could stick a business card,

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tape it to it, or the
information off the business card you would write

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on that and you would alphapatize these
things. Yeah, and you can go

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from a to Z looking for just
about anything that you needed to that was

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in your contact world that you had
to see. See. Brother, here's

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the big difference. You know the
rolodex. When I was a kid,

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my dad's rolodex was a napkin.
So he pulled out napkins from his wallet,

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fold it up, and people's phone
numbers there. You know what,

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man? When I was doing stand
up comedy, I would do that a

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lot. I would write punchline.
I would not punchlines, but I would

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write a topic down on napkins,
and then I would go home and scribble

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them in my book and then I
would write down probably i'd say ten to

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twenty jokes on that topic. And
it was funny because my wife was always

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like, what are these booger rags? Know? They're valuable jokes on their

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potential, they're my jokes there.
It's money in the making. I used

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to tell this is going to pay
for the greatest divorce you could ever get.

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Number One phone calls. Yes,
I believe, and I hope you

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would agree. Phone calls were much
easier to make back then in the analog

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age. But you know what else
was great about the old day phone calls

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hanging up felt so oh my gosh, better hung on somebody. Here's the

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deal. When you were mad at
somebody, one of the greatest feelings ever.

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And we know you're from the eighties. If you're from the eighties,

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you know the feeling of that handheld
device in your hand and you slamming it,

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slamming it on the set, and
the feeling, the sound. Hey,

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the mere experience of slamming that phone
on somebody. If you felt good,

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you felt better. It was almost
as gratifying as saying dropping the ant

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bamb on, So I told you
never to call me here again. And

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that person on the other line knew
whoa Or how about this one? How

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about this one of our favorites were
Hello, we're calling to sell you your

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favorite national geographic magazine. Bam,
that's it. Yeah, it was awesome,

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you know what I mean. Or
if your girlfriend, well, I

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just wanted to go out with Michelle
and the girls tonight, go ahead,

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fine, checking up the phone angrily. So definitely, phone calls were much

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easier back then. There's just too
much, too much involved nowadays. Plus

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nobody can remember any phone numbers.
I don't even I barely remember my own

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phone number nowadays would which goes to
tell you where we're going. Sometimes I

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have to check my own contact list
and I have to I had to put

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myself on my contact list to know
my own phone number. Yeah. You

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know what's funny though? Nowadays you
can get and you can get mad at

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somebody when you're gonna hang up yourself
or you just go flee and they don't

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know if you hung up on them
or you love your signal dropped. Yeah,

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where's the fun in that phone?
Where's the fun of that? No?

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No, if if you're mad,
you know, if you're mad and

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you really want to make a statement
that that you're mad, you want them

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to know when you hang up.
The only thing you can do is start

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dialing other numbers so they can hear. That's about it. Yes, you

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know what. I was talking to
the doctors the other day because they called.

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When they gave me a call and
asked when they were coming on our

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show again, I told him I
had to clear it with you. We

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were talking about the same conversation here. The difference of the old days when

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you had a phone now to comparison
to nowadays where you have your cell phone

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or you can talk of your Skype
on whatever device you have. And they

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were bringing up the same thing that
they thought back then, a lot of

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the hate phone calls that they would
get called in that's a little bit more

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spicy as opposed to the hate conversations
they have now. Yeah, and by

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the way, the doctors, the
good doctors, will be here with us

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on back to the eighties next Friday, So stay tuned because you never know

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what love hate letter they're going to
receive. The funny thing about the doctors,

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Tascano is we don't ever know if
we're going to get more love or

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more hate. That's the great thing
about it. That's the great thing about

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those guys. And it's a good
thing. We got them cheap. I

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mean, we really got a cheap
over here. You know what. I

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think they feel sorry for us,
and I think that to them, they

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are giving us therapy by being on
here. But you know what it's worth

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the Starbucks drinks that we have to
kick them down for them, It is

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wow. You give them Starbucks.
I usually give them a coupon for refilling

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their five gallon bottle of water at
Ralph's. Well. They told me you

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do that, and they also told
me that you give them old McDonald Christmas

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stickets. I do, and I
do I still have some from the eighties

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that is both comical and I thought
and very well played out. Well,

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thank you, well, thank you. Another thing that was a lot easier

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back then, in my mind,
was ordering food. Now you're gonna attest

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to this because come on, don't
tell me that it's easier to order food

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today than it was back in the
eighties. Back in the eighties, when

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you wanted to order food, you
went out and you ordered food. Period,

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it's done, You're done, right, Or if you didn't want to

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go out, you picked up the
phone. Well, actually, there was

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maybe one more step. You picked
up that big yellow book if you didn't

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know what to eat, and you
looked through the tons of places to eat

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in the restaurants section. Once you
found your place, you dial the number

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and you placed your order. And
guess what you paid when you got to

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the location, or you paid cash
when they delivered it. There wasn't no

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I'll pay you with my credit card
over the phone. Yes, But then

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again now we see that a lot
more now with the COVID epidemic that we're

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all up again. You know,
a lot of people are ordering in so

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they're calling and they have to give
them your information. You have to give

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them like your firstborn and every freaking
credit card that you have and every pin

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number that you have. Oh yeah, just get some kite, some type

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of food. You know. The
funny thing about ordering food back then was

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you never knew what type of a
language you were going to hit on the

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fall. That's yeah, who knows
from where that person answering the phone is

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going to be from? You know, It's funny because I remember when we

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were doing Tiscano, when Chang and
we would order from that takeout, Jimmy's

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Takeout from us, Yes, Jimmy's
Takeout. I wonder, I wonder if

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he's angry with this thing. He
still thinks we owe him all this money.

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He says, we own five hundred
dollars. How can you and I

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eat five hundred dollars worth of one
sitting? You know what? All I

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know, I think every time we
order from him, he was bringing up

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five hundred dollars. And and I'm
just wondering, I mean, how many

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kids of his did tiscano when Chang
put to school four takeout? I don't

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know, but ordering food certainly was, in my opinion, a lot easier.

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Back then, we didn't have to
worry about anything, and the prices

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were a lot cheaper than today.
I mean, look, prices are expensive

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today when you go out to eat, but when you order, when you

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order, it becomes immediately twenty to
thirty dollars more on top of your bill.

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It's unnerving. You know they hidden
charge they give you nowadays when you

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order something or the phone and you
have to pay with your credit card,

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you get all these other hidden charges
and you're like, wow, how I

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was? I can't believe I'm paying
one hundred and forty seven dollars for five

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hammreers. How's that? Hell?
Did that happen? Yeah? You know,

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we ordered pizza just the other day. We ordered pizza and I said,

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okay, is there is the tip
included? No, it's not.

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So when I get the receipt,
it says the pizza price, it says

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the tax, and it says delivery
charge and convenience fee. Can you tell

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me that none of those are the
tip? Is that what they're what you're

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trying to tell me? And yeah, that's exactly what they're telling me.

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So I not only paid your convenience
fee, and I paid a delivery charge,

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which to me is a tip.
Yeah, and then I still pay

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the tax, and on top of
that, I paid for the meal,

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and now I still have to pay
a tip. By that time, I

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have to pull out a mortgage.
Yeah, you know what I usually do.

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And they'll stand up my door and
they'll be waiting for a tip.

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I'll tell them all, wait up, let me get you your tip.

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And then I pretend I'm going into
my pocket and I'll look at them and

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I'm like, never deliver food to
me again, Bye bye, good night.

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And nice slabbed the door in their
faith, and there is their tip.

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That's just wrong. That's just wrong. Let's continue, Let's continue.

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Back in the day. What else
was a little bit easier or a lot

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easier than today? And I'm gonna
tell you right out, video games offered

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an easier experience than today. However, However, although it was an easier

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experience, the games were harder than
the games today. Yes, I agree.

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You know what else was easier?
Phone sex back in the eighties as

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al today. Somehow I knew you
would bring that one up. Hey,

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remember those nine, seven, six
numbers back in the eighties. Well,

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they're not nine seven sicks anymore,
twenty five dollars a minute. Back then,

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they were like, you know,
some of my friends would would get

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caught because they would be calling those
numbers and then their parents. They had

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no idea, you know, back
then, when you're a little kid,

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you have no idea that phone number
is gonna appear on the bill. And

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guess who's gonna see that bill.
Well when that bill says ninety nine a

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minute back in the eighties and you
were on the phone for fifteen minutes,

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yeah, you're you're gonna get something
coming to you. Somebody's going to spank

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something and it's not you spanking anything
else that phone call. I remember,

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man, hey, do you you
know what's funny? You remember back in

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the eighties when you get those late
commercials like past eleven blaha, where the

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adult commercials yep, where you had
you had some hot looking chick with the

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eighties here that would come and talk
to you and yeah, Hi, I'm

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Morgan called me. I want to
have a good time. Remember all that,

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yep, yep, Well those are
those nine seventy six numbers. But

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back to the back to the video
games, it was an easier experience.

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But the heart of the games today
you've got three billion video games and you

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have the look of those video games
looks almost real life. The stories now

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they have real actors doing the storylines. I mean it's a full production.

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Video games today make more money than
Hollywood does. Well, you can even

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get a headset with a microphone and
you can talk to other people that are

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playing the game, and you guys
are just carrying a conversation. Well,

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you're out there reading the world of
violent criminals. Yeah, being one yourself,

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being one yourself. You know,
you can just like drive down that

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you could steal a car with grand
theft aut you could steal a car,

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get a gun, could shoot a
cop, you could you could shoot innocent

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people instatus. So video games were
definitely an easier experience back then. Now

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television television itself, I would say, now, I don't know what you're

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gonna think, but I think TV
was is easier now. It's easier to

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access the TV shows that you want. Although it was easier back then to

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well, it wasn't that it was
easier, it was just you had less

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to choose from right right right right, Yeah, I think that we had

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a better type of quality, quality
of programming back in the eighties as opposed

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to nowadays. Today. Everything's kind
of chaotic and crazy on TV now,

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a little bit more than an unbelievable
reality. TV has taken over. You

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don't see the classic sitcoms that were
family oriented but yet hidden subliminal adult comedy

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type skit not skits phrases we're used. Yeah, we don't see that.

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We don't see a lot of the
variety type shows as Sunny and Share or

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like Carol Burnett, which I'm going
back to the seventies. I rise,

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you know, but even Saturday Night
Live is totally changed from the seventies eighties

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into two now. You know.
One of the things that I remember,

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I remember one time, this is
maybe nineteen eighty one, nineteen eighty two,

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and I remember the salesman from the
cable company came over and he sat

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down in the living room. My
mom and dad were with him, and

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my mom and dad got got his
cable for the very first time. Because

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our next our neighbors had two channels
they had on TV which required a box

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and we had and they also had
the second box, so they were they

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were really rich because that second box
was box was called Select TV. Yes,

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I remember, yeah, I remember. I remember when my parents had

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that. Yeah, so we we
didn't have that. I'll never forget because

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he said, not only are you
guys going to get your regular channels,

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you know, your two through thirteen
whatever that was, you know, your

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basic local channels, but on top
of that, you guys are going to

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get one HBO in one Showtime.
Oh my gosh. In addition, we're

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going to give you for free MTV
and that, and so for me to

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get two cable channels was just out
of this world. I looked forward,

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you know, coming to school because
they showed the greatest movies on HBO and

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Showtime. It was just fantastic.
Nowadays, nowadays you have over two thousand

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and three thousand, four thousand channels
of nothing to see exactly. So it's

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insane, isn't it. Yep.
So, as far as much easier to

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get your programming, I would say
television is much easier now, but it

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is a lot more complicated now,
much easier back than in the eighties because

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it was just a lot less a
lot less TV period. You're listening to

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back to the eighties, so don't
go away. You're listening to Back to

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the Eighties. This is a drink. Listen to raios. All right,

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everybody, welcome back to Back to
the eighties, to Scotto and chang aboard

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here on this cruise ship. We're
talking about the differences back in the eighties

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as as opposed to now today.
The topic of the show is we are

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discussing the analog generation and some of
the changes that it has about for the

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positive and a bit of the negative. Also a little bit of nostalgia of

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where we all came back from this
fine era of the analog. I'm sure

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all of you remember on TV Select
TV, Uh you remember MTV. I'm

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sure everyone here remembers AM Radio.
I remember. I think everyone here remembers

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having a beeper, going back to
the arcade. Remember if you had a

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beeper, you were like the happening
kids. They didn't know if you were

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slad drugs or you were a surgeon. Yeah. Yeah, you know,

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we were talking during the break.
We were talking and you brought up a

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valid point. You know, if
we want to look at whose fault all

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this is for the decadence of humanity. Now, look at the people that

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grew up in the eighties, both
from a technological standpoint, from a political

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standpoint, and everything else. Ye, man, we have a lot to

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be blamed for anyway. It's sad. It's sad, but it was a

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great time. It was a great
time, the age of adad, all

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right, So let's continue. What
else was easier back then? And I'm

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gonna see what you say to dating? Dating to me was much easier back

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then. I was talking to somebody
while back ago, a younger fellow,

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and he showed me his phone.
He goes, can you believe now how

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we date? And he's looking through
an app and scrolling through pictures of women,

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and he clicks on the ones that
he likes, and if he gets

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a response, you know, then
they start talking. Not going now,

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but then they start barely talking.
I go, are you serious? That's

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how it's done now, because that's
how it's done now. And that was

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like a couple of years ago,
so can you imagine how it is now?

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So I will definitely say that dating
was much easier back then. You

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went out, you saw, you
saw somebody you were attracted to, and

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are you are you ready younger generation, are you ready for this? This

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is how we did it. We
went out, we went straight to the

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person that we liked, and we
talk to them. Yeah, that's it,

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and we to them, what what
kind of chaotic concept is that?

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What are you asking me to do
to put myself on the lighted person?

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Yeah, where I could be shot
down and ridiculed and taking advantage of that.

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Is it satity? Yep? It
was that easy back then, right.

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I would much rather have the power
now to tap on little pictures yea

408
00:32:05.079 --> 00:32:09.920
nay nay, yay nay, nay
yay nay. Yeah, and then find

409
00:32:09.960 --> 00:32:15.079
out that the person that you liked
that you tapped on is really a three

410
00:32:15.160 --> 00:32:20.759
hundred and twenty pound gentlemen. Yeah. Oh that's always that's always nice.

411
00:32:22.119 --> 00:32:25.359
So the dating scene I think was
definitely easier back then. Oh I think

412
00:32:25.400 --> 00:32:30.079
so too. But then again,
you know, when you as we talk

413
00:32:30.160 --> 00:32:36.359
about this conversation, was the norm
back then, you know, actual human

414
00:32:36.440 --> 00:32:40.400
contact was the best way to get
to know people and meet people and have

415
00:32:40.519 --> 00:32:46.000
relationships, whether or not their boyfriend
or girlfriend sexual or friendly. Nowadays,

416
00:32:46.599 --> 00:32:52.279
you know, it's really hard for
a lot of generations. Well the generations

417
00:32:52.359 --> 00:32:55.039
do so now because everything's at the
tip of their finger. Yeah, and

418
00:32:55.559 --> 00:33:00.440
yeah, they're so attracted to their
phones. Yeah when it's and they're so

419
00:33:00.559 --> 00:33:04.759
used to texting that when it comes
time to actually talking to the opposite sex,

420
00:33:04.799 --> 00:33:07.799
when they want to ask somebody out, they have no idea what to

421
00:33:07.839 --> 00:33:10.480
do. And if they happen to
go out with that person. You've seen

422
00:33:10.519 --> 00:33:15.000
this at restaurants. You've seen a
couple and they're both on their phone.

423
00:33:15.200 --> 00:33:19.400
Now are they texting each other?
I mean, because they're not looking at

424
00:33:19.400 --> 00:33:22.799
each other and they're having phone sex. Yeah, I don't know what they're

425
00:33:22.839 --> 00:33:28.319
doing or they're getting, you know, advice from their best friends. What

426
00:33:28.359 --> 00:33:32.240
do I say now? Yeah?
Anyway, dad, it's ridiculous, bro.

427
00:33:32.400 --> 00:33:37.000
I mean the human contact, the
source of energy is gone nowadays.

428
00:33:37.079 --> 00:33:40.920
You know what I'm saying it is
I remember, man, dude, you

429
00:33:40.920 --> 00:33:45.680
know when you ask for a chick
to gall your hands are all sweaty,

430
00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:49.200
you know what I mean. Yeah, he kind of like got those butterflies

431
00:33:49.200 --> 00:33:52.240
in your stomach. All you do
is care abodies, all your hair in

432
00:33:52.279 --> 00:33:54.799
the same place. You know,
how do you look? Are you wearing

433
00:33:54.799 --> 00:34:00.240
good clothes? Do you have cheetles
in your mouth? Did you shower enough

434
00:34:00.240 --> 00:34:04.119
and put the order in a gym
class. You know, nowadays they don't

435
00:34:04.119 --> 00:34:06.960
have to worry about any of that
crap. Bro, that's right, that's

436
00:34:07.039 --> 00:34:09.920
right. How about travel, I
would say travel is much easier now because

437
00:34:09.960 --> 00:34:14.000
you just have so much of it. I mean back then waiting for the

438
00:34:14.079 --> 00:34:17.440
bus or waiting and not to mention, taxis have always been expensive, but

439
00:34:17.639 --> 00:34:22.480
travel is just much easier now.
Pretty much everybody can afford a car.

440
00:34:22.039 --> 00:34:25.800
Pretty much anybody can afford some type
of transportation. And now you have the

441
00:34:25.840 --> 00:34:30.760
ease of having ride sharing you know, Uber left and all those companies,

442
00:34:30.880 --> 00:34:35.599
yes, at your fingertips. So
definitely much easier now. Listen, back

443
00:34:35.639 --> 00:34:37.880
then in the eighties, if you
happen to be out of a party at

444
00:34:37.880 --> 00:34:40.000
one, two or three in the
morning, and you were not in a

445
00:34:40.000 --> 00:34:45.280
good neighborhood and your right left,
I can tell you you were scared out

446
00:34:45.280 --> 00:34:50.679
of your mind because you didn't have
a ride home. I remember those days,

447
00:34:50.679 --> 00:34:54.519
getting left off at a party somewhere
in an area that's not your own.

448
00:34:55.280 --> 00:35:00.400
You know, then you got to
walk those streets to find the the

449
00:35:00.519 --> 00:35:05.760
busier avenues to get your ass home, either on a bus or if there

450
00:35:05.840 --> 00:35:07.480
was, by god, a pay
phone out there. That's right, ladies

451
00:35:07.519 --> 00:35:13.000
and gentlemen. I said it a
pay phone, a pay phone which is

452
00:35:13.119 --> 00:35:17.440
non existent nowadays. Yep, so
travel definitely much easier. Now, how

453
00:35:17.440 --> 00:35:22.599
about school, I would also say
schooling and work is easier now because you

454
00:35:22.639 --> 00:35:27.920
have the luxury of unfortunately, because
of the COVID nineteen now you can do

455
00:35:28.000 --> 00:35:30.079
stuff from home. Now. I'm
not saying it's better. I'm just saying

456
00:35:30.159 --> 00:35:35.719
easier. Right, I'd say easier, yes, but I would also say

457
00:35:35.760 --> 00:35:40.639
it's not better. I think the
kids are lacking a very important, valuable

458
00:35:40.760 --> 00:35:45.119
aspect of life, and that is
human contact. Yes, they need it,

459
00:35:45.159 --> 00:35:47.719
you know, we all need it. You know. It's just so

460
00:35:47.760 --> 00:35:52.239
sad that we are strapped under the
circumstances of the COVID, you know.

461
00:35:52.639 --> 00:35:55.159
But you know, we have people
out there that be either believer or they

462
00:35:55.199 --> 00:36:00.519
don't. You know. I'm not
here to judge either side. I'm just

463
00:36:00.559 --> 00:36:02.679
saying that we do have people that
are passing away. Yeah. I'm not

464
00:36:02.760 --> 00:36:07.800
all about arguing numbers, but this
is something that we definitely have to take

465
00:36:07.880 --> 00:36:13.199
serious that we are and is definitely
something that is a hindrance to all of

466
00:36:13.239 --> 00:36:16.679
our personal lives. And I think
we all have to remember that and maybe

467
00:36:17.400 --> 00:36:22.320
act accordingly to try and get this
as far behind us as we can.

468
00:36:22.880 --> 00:36:28.159
So I think, you know,
with the circumstances nowadays, has made a

469
00:36:28.320 --> 00:36:35.360
very very difficult time in every avenue
across the board on humans interacting with each

470
00:36:35.360 --> 00:36:39.880
other, I would have to say
right now is definitely the hardest of times

471
00:36:39.880 --> 00:36:44.159
to do anything in that aspect.
My brother, I agree. I agree.

472
00:36:44.800 --> 00:36:47.400
Now as far as computers computers,
I could tell you that it was

473
00:36:47.760 --> 00:36:52.000
much easier back then, and it
was the only reason it was much easier

474
00:36:52.000 --> 00:36:54.639
back then because there were less things
to do on a computer. Yes,

475
00:36:54.840 --> 00:37:01.360
serious agree. Today, I agree, computers may the world a little a

476
00:37:01.400 --> 00:37:06.880
little easier, but they did not
make it simpler. I can tell you

477
00:37:06.960 --> 00:37:14.599
that computers is the hardest learning curve
of them all because they are updating every

478
00:37:14.639 --> 00:37:19.960
so often. And now I mean
instead of being able to do like back

479
00:37:20.000 --> 00:37:22.760
in the eighties, you could do
one or two things with a computer a

480
00:37:22.800 --> 00:37:25.920
certain way, now you can do
that same thing two hundred and fifty million

481
00:37:27.000 --> 00:37:31.920
ways. Yeah, so much easier
back then. Now here's the one in

482
00:37:31.960 --> 00:37:36.599
the last one second of last one
that we're going to talk about today before

483
00:37:36.639 --> 00:37:40.840
we have our guests over and that's
radio radio to me. For the listener,

484
00:37:42.159 --> 00:37:46.159
it was much easier back then as
a listener, because that's what we

485
00:37:46.239 --> 00:37:50.480
had, that's all we had.
That was where we got our music,

486
00:37:50.519 --> 00:37:53.960
and then where we listened to that
artist that that song for our very first

487
00:37:54.000 --> 00:37:57.599
time, and we said that's the
one I like, and then you went

488
00:37:57.639 --> 00:38:00.920
to the music store and bought your
record or your cassette and you were happy.

489
00:38:01.440 --> 00:38:07.480
Very simple, right right. However, was it easier for the people

490
00:38:07.480 --> 00:38:09.360
who worked at the radio station.
I'm going to tell you that it's easier

491
00:38:09.400 --> 00:38:15.679
today because as you know, as
radio broadcasters, you and I Chain,

492
00:38:15.800 --> 00:38:21.320
we know that back then it was
definitely. You did so much more in

493
00:38:21.400 --> 00:38:24.639
the analog page. Now everything is
just on a computer in just click click,

494
00:38:24.639 --> 00:38:29.519
click, click, click, and
you're done. Yeah, Before you

495
00:38:29.559 --> 00:38:34.079
had to go get the actual LP
or album rather or you had to go

496
00:38:34.159 --> 00:38:37.360
get to you know, uh,
drop it on a card. You had

497
00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:45.440
to actually go get the apparatus that
the music was on, literally put it

498
00:38:45.519 --> 00:38:52.559
on, press play, segue it
into make it sound crystal clear without dead

499
00:38:52.679 --> 00:38:58.119
air or any of your vocal going
over the vocal of the song, which

500
00:38:58.119 --> 00:39:01.159
I think is an art seeing that. You know, both of us have

501
00:39:01.400 --> 00:39:07.760
done this, and I think part
of radio is missing that art where the

502
00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:12.880
job can come in and kind of
intro through the music, or you could

503
00:39:12.920 --> 00:39:16.360
put a quick sound bite in there
to kind of give a little bit more

504
00:39:16.760 --> 00:39:22.039
feeling to the song or whatever.
You're going to crack that mike and say

505
00:39:22.079 --> 00:39:27.519
after as opposed to to nowatimes?
You know what I mean? Well,

506
00:39:28.280 --> 00:39:34.159
what about music? Brother? Do
you think music was easier back then or

507
00:39:34.320 --> 00:39:39.079
easier today to listen to? You
know what, there's a lot of bands

508
00:39:39.559 --> 00:39:45.639
that I do like nowadays, but
the list of bands and the type of

509
00:39:45.159 --> 00:39:52.280
music that they play doesn't add up
to the experience I got in music in

510
00:39:52.320 --> 00:39:57.320
the eighties and the seventies and the
sixties and even the fifties. Although you

511
00:39:57.400 --> 00:40:02.119
know, music is always evolved everything
else. So music styles have changed,

512
00:40:02.320 --> 00:40:07.559
artists have changed, artists outlooks have
changed, but as a way of getting

513
00:40:07.599 --> 00:40:10.920
the music, and I definitely think
it is easier nowadays because you can go

514
00:40:10.920 --> 00:40:15.199
on Napster, you can download it. Wait wait, wait, did you

515
00:40:15.320 --> 00:40:21.119
just say Napster. Yeah? I
don't think Napster exists anymore, but yeah,

516
00:40:21.519 --> 00:40:24.400
my point with with Napster, they
were one of the ones that were

517
00:40:24.639 --> 00:40:28.639
robbing a lot of the artists.
Oh yeah, they're the originals. Yeah,

518
00:40:28.880 --> 00:40:31.679
there, they are definitely the originals. And I was bringing up that

519
00:40:32.079 --> 00:40:37.519
was kind of one of the first
wars where we had people able to obtain

520
00:40:37.639 --> 00:40:42.840
music free and it was giving a
lot of problems to the artists, which

521
00:40:43.079 --> 00:40:45.239
I have to tend to go with
the artists. I mean, you know,

522
00:40:45.480 --> 00:40:50.159
when you sign a record contract,
you're there to make records. That's

523
00:40:50.159 --> 00:40:54.280
how you make your revenue. And
if you have if you have a syndication

524
00:40:54.360 --> 00:40:59.280
that's over the internet, and they're
giving your stuff away for free, and

525
00:40:59.360 --> 00:41:02.119
you're not making that chump change or
that you're not making that change and you're

526
00:41:02.159 --> 00:41:06.079
not making a living and you're going
to have to go out there and work

527
00:41:06.119 --> 00:41:08.679
a regular job and come up with
this creative time. Yeah, that's a

528
00:41:08.719 --> 00:41:13.719
big kick in the y. Yeah. And I remember, I remember when

529
00:41:14.039 --> 00:41:16.639
when Napster did come out, everybody
was so excited because now you can get

530
00:41:16.719 --> 00:41:22.360
music for free. And uh and
you how about this. You remember back

531
00:41:22.360 --> 00:41:25.840
in the eighties, do you remember
music clubs like Columbia House and it was

532
00:41:25.920 --> 00:41:30.639
just a scheme to get you to
sign on there. Then they would get

533
00:41:30.679 --> 00:41:34.719
the collections company after you. They'd
give you like twelve albums, twelve ten

534
00:41:34.760 --> 00:41:38.480
to twelve albums for a penny or
for an and you were all excited you

535
00:41:38.599 --> 00:41:43.440
got it, and then all of
a sudden they got you on a monthly

536
00:41:43.519 --> 00:41:46.480
thing, recurring bill, and a
lot of people got their credit room by

537
00:41:46.519 --> 00:41:50.880
those people. But here's what I
wanted to say about that. I definitely

538
00:41:50.880 --> 00:41:54.880
believe that music is the music.
Listening part is much easier today, of

539
00:41:54.920 --> 00:42:02.199
course, but as far as being
better for that experience of listening, better

540
00:42:02.239 --> 00:42:07.039
for the soul, I think back
then was much much easier. It's easier

541
00:42:07.039 --> 00:42:12.519
today to get your hands on music, but back then it was much it

542
00:42:12.599 --> 00:42:15.280
was much more of a fulfilled experience. And so that's what I want to

543
00:42:15.280 --> 00:42:20.159
talk to you guys a little bit
about before our guest comes in. By

544
00:42:20.159 --> 00:42:23.639
the way, so yeah, go
ahead. So are you talking about the

545
00:42:23.639 --> 00:42:30.199
clarity of the music as it's being
recorded onto a cassette? No? Actually,

546
00:42:30.119 --> 00:42:35.800
actually in general, and I'll explain
that. I want to remind you

547
00:42:35.800 --> 00:42:40.360
guys that coming up next we have
a very special guest from the Anna Dialogue

548
00:42:40.400 --> 00:42:46.199
YouTube channel, and this is the
gentleman who has so much experience in the

549
00:42:46.239 --> 00:42:52.599
analog genre and the analog world,
and he's going to explain a little bit

550
00:42:52.639 --> 00:42:55.800
more and a lot better than I
could ever do. But I do want

551
00:42:55.840 --> 00:43:00.880
to touch on two quick points here, you know, being that we are

552
00:43:00.920 --> 00:43:06.639
a program dedicated to introducing the eighties
to an a new generation. I want

553
00:43:06.639 --> 00:43:13.119
to I want to invite you guys
to try this. You know, most

554
00:43:13.280 --> 00:43:17.039
people, most young people today,
they'll listen to music, but they'll listen

555
00:43:17.079 --> 00:43:21.760
to it without listening to it,
if that makes sense. I don't know

556
00:43:21.760 --> 00:43:25.039
if that makes sense. So they
hear it, but they're not really listening

557
00:43:25.119 --> 00:43:31.239
to the experience. They're not exp
they're not getting that experience. For example,

558
00:43:32.159 --> 00:43:37.960
they're not listening to what the artists
wanted to convey. They're not listening

559
00:43:37.960 --> 00:43:42.360
to the arrangements. You know,
they're listening to a beat in a melody

560
00:43:42.400 --> 00:43:47.480
period and that's you know, so
basically we're talking about almost like teenagers do

561
00:43:47.559 --> 00:43:52.760
with their parents, right pretty much
of you know, the they just tone

562
00:43:52.800 --> 00:43:54.559
them out. Yeah, they hear
everything in the background, but they don't

563
00:43:54.599 --> 00:43:59.000
hear the message that's coming across that's
going to give them the wisdom. So

564
00:43:59.079 --> 00:44:04.000
then they get their little as smacked
for doing something stupid. So I want

565
00:44:04.039 --> 00:44:06.360
you the same thing with music.
I agree with you, Yeah, so

566
00:44:07.199 --> 00:44:09.320
have them do it. And if
you maybe are from the eighties and you

567
00:44:09.440 --> 00:44:14.920
gave up on vinyl incas set for
whatever your reasons were, and yes,

568
00:44:15.000 --> 00:44:19.199
it is much easier to just put
your headphones on and go to Spotify or

569
00:44:19.320 --> 00:44:22.920
Apple iTunes and download music or you
know what, wherever it is that you

570
00:44:22.960 --> 00:44:28.679
get your music from Amazon. Yes
it's much easier, no question about it.

571
00:44:29.239 --> 00:44:32.480
But do you get the experience that
you did back in the eighties.

572
00:44:32.800 --> 00:44:37.800
There was something about when your favorite
song came out on the air that made

573
00:44:37.840 --> 00:44:42.440
you get excited. I bet you
now when you go to Spotify or Apple

574
00:44:42.599 --> 00:44:45.039
or wherever it is that you find
your music, I bet you don't get

575
00:44:45.079 --> 00:44:49.360
excited when you're listening to music.
It's done. You don't get that excitement.

576
00:44:49.519 --> 00:44:55.480
Why because everything is just so easy, so accessible, and yet there

577
00:44:55.559 --> 00:45:00.480
is something missing. So I want
to have you I try these things.

578
00:45:00.880 --> 00:45:07.440
Try to listen to music for what
it is. Listen to the entire album

579
00:45:07.519 --> 00:45:13.119
for once instead of individual songs.
Because we've become so used to just picking

580
00:45:13.159 --> 00:45:19.920
a playlist or just putting a radio
a so called radio station on streaming service

581
00:45:20.360 --> 00:45:23.760
and just letting it pick the songs
for you. Rather than Okay, you

582
00:45:23.840 --> 00:45:30.519
like an artist, listen to that
artist's entire album. Take a look at

583
00:45:30.519 --> 00:45:34.719
what the artist did in order to
create that album. You know, what

584
00:45:34.760 --> 00:45:38.960
did they want to what did they
want to convey through it? Look at

585
00:45:39.000 --> 00:45:44.079
the all the work that it took
to make that album. See, that's

586
00:45:44.119 --> 00:45:47.599
all part of an experience. Right. I'll go even deeper on you on

587
00:45:47.639 --> 00:45:52.239
this, touching back on what you
were talking about earlier. What I called

588
00:45:52.280 --> 00:45:58.639
the listener experience now is they listen
with a dead ear. And I'll explain

589
00:45:58.800 --> 00:46:04.679
what I mean by that. Nowadays, I think music has cheapened by the

590
00:46:05.000 --> 00:46:08.519
artist, by the writing, by
the form, the layout, the sound,

591
00:46:09.119 --> 00:46:16.639
The musical content in music kind of
is more poppy. It's all very

592
00:46:16.679 --> 00:46:22.280
similar. And I believe that it's
occurred that way for the dead ear experience

593
00:46:22.679 --> 00:46:31.519
because listeners nowadays do not really listen
to music as they used to back then.

594
00:46:31.599 --> 00:46:37.960
But music is not brought out in
the form and the emotion that it

595
00:46:37.119 --> 00:46:40.840
was back then. And that's another
point. You're right. And the other

596
00:46:40.840 --> 00:46:45.079
point I would like to point out, and I agree with you on some

597
00:46:45.320 --> 00:46:51.000
points of what you just discussed.
But I also know there are individuals that

598
00:46:51.079 --> 00:46:55.159
do still have that one song or
a certain set list that they may pick

599
00:46:55.280 --> 00:47:01.719
up on an FM, which is
very hard nowadays to get really great music

600
00:47:01.760 --> 00:47:05.519
on terrestrial radio. But you'll be
with somebody that go, oh, that's

601
00:47:05.559 --> 00:47:07.199
my song, Well, that's my
jam, you know what I'm saying.

602
00:47:07.440 --> 00:47:13.960
But yet we're seeing the music that
is being put out cheapened a little bit

603
00:47:14.360 --> 00:47:19.480
and easier for the dead air listener
to grab it and put it into their

604
00:47:19.920 --> 00:47:27.440
mental catalog of everyday kind of blah
kind of music, because they're missing the

605
00:47:27.719 --> 00:47:32.519
essence of what music was made and
kind of heard back then as a pair,

606
00:47:34.639 --> 00:47:37.119
as back into the eighties in the
comparison to now, I don't know

607
00:47:37.159 --> 00:47:40.840
if you would agree with the Yeah, no, I do. And as

608
00:47:40.840 --> 00:47:44.559
a matter of fact, I'll see
a lot of us were never taught how

609
00:47:44.599 --> 00:47:49.800
to listen to music. And as
the ages passed, the years you know

610
00:47:49.880 --> 00:47:52.840
went by, we started getting you
know, we lost our records, we

611
00:47:52.880 --> 00:47:57.639
lost our CDs, we lost the
cassettes and things like that. And now

612
00:47:58.199 --> 00:48:00.760
because everything being so accessible, of
people don't even listen to music period.

613
00:48:01.599 --> 00:48:06.280
No, and I don't know if
you notice that a lot of people don't.

614
00:48:06.519 --> 00:48:08.480
They just music is gone. And
you know what music, believe it

615
00:48:08.559 --> 00:48:14.440
or not. And you may not
believe this, but music is really a

616
00:48:14.559 --> 00:48:20.559
type of medicine for your soul,
the body, and the mind needs music.

617
00:48:22.079 --> 00:48:25.199
To me, music is kind of
like the Bible of the ear.

618
00:48:25.960 --> 00:48:29.679
My mother always used to tell me
when I would be listening to music with

619
00:48:29.800 --> 00:48:32.320
her, and you know, we've
had the conversation on the background of music

620
00:48:32.360 --> 00:48:36.440
that I grew up listening to,
and my mom would always tell me to

621
00:48:36.519 --> 00:48:40.960
listen to the lyrics, go get
the album jacket and most of them back.

622
00:48:42.000 --> 00:48:45.599
Then you have the lyrics, read
the lyrics along with the song.

623
00:48:45.920 --> 00:48:49.639
And my mother always told me,
it's a story, it's someone's story.

624
00:48:50.039 --> 00:48:55.079
And the way you become a lover
of that song or that band is because

625
00:48:57.039 --> 00:49:01.519
in time you will know your own
experience is and how they kind of intertwined

626
00:49:01.519 --> 00:49:07.679
with that one song, and then
that will be your kind of musical wisdom

627
00:49:08.199 --> 00:49:15.079
to carry you through. So it's
all up to the listener. I believe

628
00:49:15.119 --> 00:49:23.400
how they take the music in and
how they push it back out to others

629
00:49:23.679 --> 00:49:29.599
to get that same emotion or feeling
out of the songs that they enjoy.

630
00:49:29.760 --> 00:49:32.440
You know what I'm saying. Yeah, I agree. So right now we're

631
00:49:32.440 --> 00:49:36.760
going to be listening to someone who
knows a lot about the analog world.

632
00:49:37.440 --> 00:49:42.480
And you know, I've been listening
to streaming music for as long as you,

633
00:49:42.519 --> 00:49:45.519
I mean since it came onto the
scene, and just recently have started

634
00:49:45.559 --> 00:49:50.480
to get into listening to analog again, and I'm so glad I did,

635
00:49:50.519 --> 00:49:54.519
and I'll never leave it again because
now I'm listening as I've never listened before,

636
00:49:54.599 --> 00:50:00.920
and I can catch those subtleties that
were in those very high quality recordings.

637
00:50:00.280 --> 00:50:02.280
But which is better, well,
at the end of the day,

638
00:50:02.480 --> 00:50:09.239
both analog and digital world, it's
just based on preference. We can't tell

639
00:50:09.239 --> 00:50:13.440
you anything, however, because this
is back to the eighties, we want

640
00:50:13.480 --> 00:50:17.840
you to do your best to introduce
those things that we did back then to

641
00:50:17.960 --> 00:50:22.400
this newer generation. Don't let it
get lost. This is back to the

642
00:50:22.400 --> 00:50:25.599
eighties. We'll be right back with
special guests from the Anna Dialog channel on

643
00:50:25.639 --> 00:50:30.920
YouTube. Don't go away. You're
listening to back to the eighties, Back

644
00:50:31.000 --> 00:50:36.760
to the eighties. Let me explain
something to you. I am a vintage

645
00:50:37.000 --> 00:50:46.400
mass marketed children's toy from the eighties. This is back to the eighties and

646
00:50:46.679 --> 00:50:51.760
we are back. And as we
mentioned to you before the break, we

647
00:50:51.840 --> 00:50:55.119
have a very special guest, and
this guest has been one of the ones

648
00:50:55.239 --> 00:51:00.440
responsible for us here back to the
eighties getting back into cassette. Now,

649
00:51:00.480 --> 00:51:05.079
as you know, cassettes and vinyl
were really really big in the eighties.

650
00:51:05.239 --> 00:51:09.039
I know there's a comeback. There's
been a resurgence in vinyl, but recently,

651
00:51:09.639 --> 00:51:14.599
meaning in the last few years,
it's also started with cassettes again.

652
00:51:15.000 --> 00:51:19.280
And who better to talk about it
that one of the most informative channels out

653
00:51:19.320 --> 00:51:22.400
there and a dialogue on YouTube.
Guido, thanks for joining us. I

654
00:51:22.440 --> 00:51:25.360
mean, like I said, you
are one of the ones responsible for me

655
00:51:25.440 --> 00:51:30.559
getting back into cassettes. And I'm
looking at a cassette tech that I just

656
00:51:30.639 --> 00:51:34.000
got and also a bunch of cassettes. And how does it feel to be

657
00:51:34.039 --> 00:51:39.320
responsible for getting people back into analog
being in an era that is only streaming?

658
00:51:39.760 --> 00:51:43.960
Well, Hi Mario, Hi everyone, thank you so much for hosting

659
00:51:44.000 --> 00:51:47.360
me here on this wonderful project back
to the eighties, which styles fantastic.

660
00:51:47.440 --> 00:51:52.400
So as soon as you contact me, this idea of this concept, and

661
00:51:53.079 --> 00:51:58.679
it's cool that you're thinking also of
this analog type of media. It's really

662
00:51:58.719 --> 00:52:01.000
fantastic. So I'm really glad to
be here you guys. So yes,

663
00:52:01.159 --> 00:52:05.760
absolutely, I'm very glad. As
I said before, to be guilty of

664
00:52:06.199 --> 00:52:09.880
getting you back to learn about guess
it. What made you get into the

665
00:52:09.960 --> 00:52:15.440
idea of getting a YouTube channel and
talking about analog Well, I must admit

666
00:52:15.519 --> 00:52:20.599
that I have always been a great
fan of analog media, although growing up

667
00:52:20.639 --> 00:52:24.840
in the nineties I did had my
big CD moment. But finally, with

668
00:52:24.880 --> 00:52:30.719
this resurgence, this Vinyl revival,
I decided, hey, well that's my

669
00:52:30.880 --> 00:52:36.440
thing. Why not do a channel
just for fun, just to try it

670
00:52:36.480 --> 00:52:39.119
out. I mean, I did
a couple of videos, no visualizations,

671
00:52:39.320 --> 00:52:44.360
no nothing, no feedback, and
all of a sudden, after six months

672
00:52:44.400 --> 00:52:47.800
of nothing, finally people started to
be interested in what I was saying.

673
00:52:47.880 --> 00:52:52.559
Yeah, they started to catch on
right exactly, And after three years now

674
00:52:52.599 --> 00:52:57.199
I have thirty thousand subscribers, which
is not I mean huge, but it's

675
00:52:57.239 --> 00:53:00.119
it's good. I mean, I
think it's a decent result considering that we're

676
00:53:00.159 --> 00:53:05.719
talking about exactly Cassette's vinyl, etc. You know what's interesting to me that

677
00:53:05.840 --> 00:53:09.400
nowadays. I mean, if you
talk to somebody who's like a team and

678
00:53:09.480 --> 00:53:14.760
you tell him I have thirty thousand
followers to them, it's nothing exactly,

679
00:53:15.000 --> 00:53:19.239
you know, in my age anyway, I start to think, holy moly,

680
00:53:19.480 --> 00:53:22.760
when I was growing up, I
had one friend, maybe two three

681
00:53:22.840 --> 00:53:27.000
friends. Now you get thousands of
people listening to you. I mean,

682
00:53:27.119 --> 00:53:30.960
that is a big deal. So
thirty thousand people following and listening to you,

683
00:53:30.199 --> 00:53:34.679
Man, that that has some way
to it, don't No, absolutely

684
00:53:34.760 --> 00:53:38.800
agree, And it's it's fun because
actually there's not that many people perhaps in

685
00:53:38.840 --> 00:53:43.800
my community here around where I live
in Italy, because I'm Italian. And

686
00:53:43.920 --> 00:53:47.320
finally I can have a connection because
it is actually a b blog. I

687
00:53:47.320 --> 00:53:52.400
mean, I'm discussing, I'm presenting
my passion. It's I'm not doing this

688
00:53:52.440 --> 00:53:57.320
for work. So that's the luxury, we could say, of having a

689
00:53:57.360 --> 00:54:00.320
YouTube channel doing it just for passion, because I have my own job,

690
00:54:00.360 --> 00:54:04.760
etc. Other things going on.
So that's absolutely all the fun. Is

691
00:54:04.760 --> 00:54:07.960
there nothing else? If you go
to your channel, or when one goes

692
00:54:07.000 --> 00:54:12.199
to your channel, you realize that
you have a lot of equipment that we

693
00:54:12.239 --> 00:54:15.599
haven't seen for a long time.
But you seem to have everything that looks

694
00:54:15.920 --> 00:54:20.679
although it looks retro, it also
looks brand new. How do you manage

695
00:54:20.719 --> 00:54:22.639
to achieve that? I mean,
where do you where do you go to

696
00:54:22.960 --> 00:54:28.039
get all these things that look new? Well? Probably I just luck,

697
00:54:28.119 --> 00:54:31.199
I would say, because you just
have to lurk around to wait for the

698
00:54:31.320 --> 00:54:37.039
right moment on eBay or other places
on the web where a decent looking deck

699
00:54:37.159 --> 00:54:42.920
comes out, or a real to
real recorder or other vintage gear, and

700
00:54:43.360 --> 00:54:47.400
especially if they're a good condition,
working condition apart from the aesthetics, that's

701
00:54:47.480 --> 00:54:51.400
something you have to grasp at that
moment and go ahead. I mean,

702
00:54:51.599 --> 00:54:54.960
because there is this revival that's also
bringing back equipment on the stores, on

703
00:54:54.960 --> 00:55:00.239
the shelves or obviously on eBay,
I've noticed that. And also place is

704
00:55:00.280 --> 00:55:04.239
like here in the United States,
you know secondhand stores, things that people

705
00:55:04.280 --> 00:55:08.360
have given away, like places that
are called like goodwill here and they're called

706
00:55:08.360 --> 00:55:15.239
thrift stores. People getting some great
fines exactly, Well maybe at thrift stores

707
00:55:15.239 --> 00:55:20.280
at decent prices. Online unfortunately,
prices are going up because a lot of

708
00:55:20.280 --> 00:55:22.599
people are getting interested in this.
Well, and that's the downside. But

709
00:55:22.679 --> 00:55:27.719
the good side is that people are
getting interested in this in this resurgence,

710
00:55:27.760 --> 00:55:30.400
analog resurgence, which is positive.
I mean, we stream too much.

711
00:55:30.440 --> 00:55:35.159
I think if you were to talk
to a younger person or even to somebody

712
00:55:35.159 --> 00:55:38.440
who's my age that grew up in
the eighties listening to to vinyl into cassettes

713
00:55:38.519 --> 00:55:43.880
that you know, it just happened. Throughout the changes of the decades,

714
00:55:44.239 --> 00:55:46.960
we ended up throwing out a lot
of our stuff. And how do you

715
00:55:47.039 --> 00:55:51.559
talk to us, and how do
you talk to somebody who's younger and let

716
00:55:51.599 --> 00:55:53.480
them know, hey, take a
look at this format, because it's just

717
00:55:53.679 --> 00:55:57.920
something that you're not going to get. What do you have to say regarding

718
00:55:57.960 --> 00:56:01.119
them? Now? This is an
excellent question because, as you said,

719
00:56:01.280 --> 00:56:06.000
I followed the same path. I
mean I got rid of my cassettes.

720
00:56:06.119 --> 00:56:10.159
Sadly I left that and I went
through with CDs all the way unfortunately,

721
00:56:10.559 --> 00:56:15.639
and then slowly I crept back to
vinyl. But then what happened. I

722
00:56:15.679 --> 00:56:19.880
mean, it's amazing because if we
think about it, when we were using

723
00:56:19.920 --> 00:56:23.559
cassettes back in the eighties and also
obviously in the nineties, we were using

724
00:56:23.960 --> 00:56:28.440
low quality cassettes because we were young, we didn't have that much money.

725
00:56:28.599 --> 00:56:32.800
We were recording off the radio,
again not so good quality transmissions. There's

726
00:56:32.840 --> 00:56:37.400
also rumble there. Plus we didn't
had excellent decks, just normal decks at

727
00:56:37.840 --> 00:56:42.480
our homes. At our houses.
So if you put all these things together,

728
00:56:43.199 --> 00:56:49.079
obviously the quality wasn't that great,
sadly, Plus prerecorded tapes aren't that

729
00:56:49.199 --> 00:56:53.280
amazing. We have to admit this. But if you get a quality cassette,

730
00:56:53.280 --> 00:56:58.360
for example, a chrome cassette also
known as Type two or a Type

731
00:56:58.360 --> 00:57:01.320
four cassette also known as metal set, and you record that on a good

732
00:57:01.400 --> 00:57:06.760
deck, which now is affordable for
us, which wasn't back in the eighties.

733
00:57:06.800 --> 00:57:10.719
Again, you finally can record your
music off for example, if you

734
00:57:10.760 --> 00:57:16.360
want Spotify, but hopefully something better
like Cobo's or I don't know title things

735
00:57:16.360 --> 00:57:20.920
like that, which is high ride
resolution audio, and you put it on

736
00:57:20.960 --> 00:57:24.800
a cassette, all of a sudden
you have something high quality and magical.

737
00:57:24.960 --> 00:57:30.719
That's the magic of analogue. Something
that I find very interesting is that the

738
00:57:30.760 --> 00:57:34.440
main complaint of people, even my
age, that used to listen to this

739
00:57:34.480 --> 00:57:39.400
format is the hiss. We all
remember the good old cassette hiss. But

740
00:57:39.480 --> 00:57:44.119
I got to tell you something,
since I've gotten back into this and watching

741
00:57:44.199 --> 00:57:47.280
channels like yours. I've realized the
truth in what you just said, which

742
00:57:47.320 --> 00:57:52.679
is a quality cassette deck and quality
cassettes because I tell you something, I've

743
00:57:52.719 --> 00:57:58.559
been recording off streaming services and I
listened back in the right setting and oh,

744
00:57:58.599 --> 00:58:01.079
my goodness, the chills because I'm
going, oh my goodness, this

745
00:58:01.199 --> 00:58:04.880
is not how cassettes used to listen
to. You used to hear them.

746
00:58:04.880 --> 00:58:07.360
They weren't like this before I discovered
them. Again, I have to admit

747
00:58:07.480 --> 00:58:10.320
this. I don't want to say
yes, I'm always there. I always

748
00:58:10.320 --> 00:58:15.519
bought cassettes and theaters. No,
I had to go back to this and

749
00:58:15.639 --> 00:58:22.400
understand the full potential, which also
is part of this analog revival, real

750
00:58:22.440 --> 00:58:25.880
to real cassettes, which is the
best of the best in terms of magnetic

751
00:58:25.920 --> 00:58:30.840
tape. So yes, I would
say this to someone who who starts getting

752
00:58:30.840 --> 00:58:36.000
close to this cassette culture, which
is a new underground trend. Also because

753
00:58:36.039 --> 00:58:39.960
a lot of independent artists now are
publishing their work on cassettes, so it

754
00:58:40.159 --> 00:58:47.280
is something cool to do. Besides
a vintage retro type of nostalgic trend.

755
00:58:47.360 --> 00:58:51.400
We could say, I mean,
it's not only that I hope people understand

756
00:58:51.440 --> 00:58:55.800
that and that is something very cool. How would you describe the cassette culture

757
00:58:55.840 --> 00:59:00.119
Do you think it's it's actually going
to have as much you know that saying

758
00:59:00.199 --> 00:59:05.880
powers as vinyl because the resurgence of
vinyl iss incredible. Of some of these

759
00:59:05.920 --> 00:59:08.280
records are just so out of hand. Now they made it so out of

760
00:59:08.280 --> 00:59:13.320
hand in price where now you like, do I really want to spend you

761
00:59:13.360 --> 00:59:17.639
know, forty fifty, sixty,
even one hundred dollars for one piece of

762
00:59:17.719 --> 00:59:22.119
vinyl? I know, I know
that's the downside. Unfortunately, when the

763
00:59:22.239 --> 00:59:27.320
market is understanding that there's more people
potentially interested, they're going to raise the

764
00:59:27.639 --> 00:59:30.559
prices. Okay, yes, but
the difficult part, well, the short

765
00:59:30.559 --> 00:59:34.840
answers, No, it's I don't
think it's going to happen because the problem

766
00:59:35.000 --> 00:59:38.800
is that we do not have new
decks, new Walkman's. We do have

767
00:59:38.840 --> 00:59:44.559
a few walks Walkman's, but the
quality is so bad so it's just useless

768
00:59:44.599 --> 00:59:47.880
to try and explore that. So
if we don't have hardware, it's difficult

769
00:59:49.039 --> 00:59:52.719
that the software is gonna get become
bigger in sales and productions, etc.

770
00:59:53.239 --> 00:59:57.719
Yeah, I've noticed that places like
Amazon, they'll have. I believe there's

771
00:59:57.800 --> 01:00:00.960
two. I maybe been mistaken,
but I believe there's two brands that are

772
01:00:01.000 --> 01:00:07.719
making new cassette decks. But the
quality is just you don't compare it to

773
01:00:07.760 --> 01:00:10.719
the one from the eighties and nineties, especially exactly what is called a three

774
01:00:10.719 --> 01:00:15.559
head cassette deck, you know,
or even the good quality two cassette decks

775
01:00:15.599 --> 01:00:19.280
from from the eighties Babo, Yes, three head cassettes, that's the best

776
01:00:19.280 --> 01:00:22.679
of the best. Also because you
can monitor while you're recording your music,

777
01:00:22.719 --> 01:00:27.559
for example. So yeah, absolutely, there isn't that much hardware, even

778
01:00:27.599 --> 01:00:31.199
on Amazon Plus, if we think
about it, even the magnetic heads that

779
01:00:31.280 --> 01:00:36.199
have to read the information on the
oxide on the tape, there's only a

780
01:00:36.320 --> 01:00:40.239
few production a few houses, how
a few brands that are making these,

781
01:00:40.280 --> 01:00:45.960
and the mechanisms of cassette reading is
only one in I think in China or

782
01:00:46.039 --> 01:00:49.960
Japan, somewhere like that, somewhere
like that, and it's making the same

783
01:00:50.000 --> 01:00:54.000
type very very low quality. For
all the different little gizmos we find around

784
01:00:54.400 --> 01:01:00.199
which sound terrible, terrible, just
terrible. So that's also unfortunate. Are

785
01:01:00.239 --> 01:01:04.880
going to bring people far away from
this resurgence. Absolutely, and the fact

786
01:01:04.880 --> 01:01:07.480
that it's not portable, and we've
gotten so used to cassettes are portable.

787
01:01:07.800 --> 01:01:10.719
But as far as the equipment,
I mean, you could probably buy a

788
01:01:10.719 --> 01:01:14.719
brand new car stereo with a cassette
deck, but it's not going to sound

789
01:01:14.719 --> 01:01:17.639
the greatest. So I can understand
that. But another thing is, you

790
01:01:17.679 --> 01:01:22.960
know, Vinyl, even though that's
not portable, but you know the sound

791
01:01:22.079 --> 01:01:27.079
when you get a quality cassette,
a quality cassette deck, and you and

792
01:01:27.199 --> 01:01:30.599
you compare it to Vinyl, they
sound very good. Although I still you

793
01:01:30.639 --> 01:01:32.639
know, I've listened to some Vinyl
online on YouTube, and even with the

794
01:01:32.679 --> 01:01:37.760
compression that YouTube includes in it,
oh my goodness, it's it's breathtaking.

795
01:01:37.840 --> 01:01:43.760
You hear stuff that you don't hear
on streaming. Absolutely true, true,

796
01:01:43.840 --> 01:01:46.719
And I hope a lot of people
that maybe got close to this, just

797
01:01:47.039 --> 01:01:53.280
as something trendy did, find a
different quality in sound because a lot of

798
01:01:53.280 --> 01:01:59.280
people we have to remember this,
we're born with streaming services like ten fifteen

799
01:01:59.480 --> 01:02:02.320
years ago. Nothing physical, not
even in your because if you're if your

800
01:02:02.400 --> 01:02:06.960
dad, for example, or wherever
you're living with, doesn't have a little

801
01:02:07.000 --> 01:02:10.639
stereo inside your home, even a
CD player, you're it's difficult you're not

802
01:02:10.679 --> 01:02:14.519
going to get close to that.
You're just going to meet your smartphone and

803
01:02:14.559 --> 01:02:17.559
start listening out of that, and
that's not a true experience. I'm sorry

804
01:02:17.599 --> 01:02:21.320
to say this, but it's good. It's you have to have that as

805
01:02:21.400 --> 01:02:23.119
well. I mean, if you
have to work out, jogging, running

806
01:02:23.119 --> 01:02:27.920
around, no problem with that.
But if you're interested in music, you

807
01:02:28.039 --> 01:02:31.440
have to experience vinyl or something similar. You know. I think that one

808
01:02:31.440 --> 01:02:37.639
of the saddest things that has happened
to this generation is that we have lost,

809
01:02:37.840 --> 01:02:42.239
as you said, the experience,
because it's more than just listening to

810
01:02:42.320 --> 01:02:47.000
music. And unfortunately, I think
that as kids start growing in this era,

811
01:02:47.159 --> 01:02:52.239
with this new culture of streaming,
they have no idea of quality of

812
01:02:52.320 --> 01:02:55.239
music. They just know streaming and
that's it. They don't get to really

813
01:02:55.360 --> 01:03:00.360
enjoy. Now, having said that, I do know that there are few,

814
01:03:00.559 --> 01:03:02.840
and by a few, I know
there's a group even young people that

815
01:03:04.119 --> 01:03:08.159
are into analog that do love the
quality. So how can we get them

816
01:03:08.199 --> 01:03:14.599
more interested in listening to analog?
That's a good question. Well, certainly

817
01:03:14.840 --> 01:03:20.440
not hiring the prices of vinyl.
That's already something people should should keep in

818
01:03:20.519 --> 01:03:23.360
mind because I remember, for example, in the eighties and nineties when we

819
01:03:23.400 --> 01:03:28.400
tried to buy things. The CDs, for example, costed way too much,

820
01:03:28.440 --> 01:03:31.400
and that's why cassettes went on all
the way to the late nineties.

821
01:03:31.800 --> 01:03:37.960
So you need someone that brings you
close to this and lets you understand it,

822
01:03:38.119 --> 01:03:44.239
obviously, starting from the physical feeling
looking at something, touching it,

823
01:03:44.920 --> 01:03:49.800
not just listening to playlists. I
did a video in fact where I describe

824
01:03:50.039 --> 01:03:52.920
I know a lot of people hated
me because it was almost like I was

825
01:03:52.960 --> 01:03:55.719
teaching how to listen. But I
just wanted to transmit the idea, the

826
01:03:55.760 --> 01:04:00.239
concept, for example, of listening
to an album and not a song primate

827
01:04:00.320 --> 01:04:04.800
on its own or worse in the
playlist. Having an album is it's giving

828
01:04:04.920 --> 01:04:11.039
also credit to the artist who had
a concept that that studied the way the

829
01:04:11.159 --> 01:04:15.599
different the different songs and the whole
the whole ensemble with the lighter notes or

830
01:04:15.639 --> 01:04:20.679
the pictures and everything made his own
artistic creation, and we're losing that.

831
01:04:20.960 --> 01:04:26.119
There is a purpose to why the
artists put out a complete album, right

832
01:04:26.519 --> 01:04:30.440
exactly. And I think it's not
like the mixtapes that we used to do

833
01:04:30.480 --> 01:04:32.960
in the past, because that's our
you know, in the eighties and nineties

834
01:04:32.960 --> 01:04:36.400
when used to do a mixtape.
That's our version of streaming music, right,

835
01:04:38.039 --> 01:04:42.239
doing a mixtape. But still when
we went out and we bought those

836
01:04:42.280 --> 01:04:45.079
cassettes or that vinyl, and we
put especially vinyl, you put that needle

837
01:04:45.119 --> 01:04:48.360
down. You don't want to be
lifting it up and choosing songs, and

838
01:04:48.440 --> 01:04:51.559
you listen from beginning to end.
And I think that there's something very important

839
01:04:51.559 --> 01:04:56.440
that you just said. We have
lost that absolutely well, well, actually,

840
01:04:56.519 --> 01:05:00.639
yeah, I hope people will start
be interesting in this because it's a

841
01:05:00.639 --> 01:05:03.239
whole world behind it, as you
can imagine, like and everything. Mostly

842
01:05:03.599 --> 01:05:09.840
but since music is so much and
it's always been and it's always going to

843
01:05:09.920 --> 01:05:14.480
be, I think part of our
culture, our personal culture and world culture.

844
01:05:15.000 --> 01:05:19.719
It's it's just something to do to
try to understand how an album is

845
01:05:19.719 --> 01:05:25.400
conceived, touching it, looking at
it, listening the whole thing. You

846
01:05:25.440 --> 01:05:29.440
can do that also on Spotify,
no problem, but not only, not

847
01:05:29.519 --> 01:05:33.519
only and not doing something else possibly
sometimes, because that's also something that we're

848
01:05:33.559 --> 01:05:40.039
doing using music as a background doing
something else, and that's even more risky.

849
01:05:40.119 --> 01:05:43.280
I think, yeah, I think
you're absolutely right. Now you mentioned

850
01:05:43.320 --> 01:05:47.039
that there are types of cassettes.
Can we really get a quality sounding cassette.

851
01:05:47.199 --> 01:05:50.559
Well, even Type one, which
is the normal cassette that we all

852
01:05:50.599 --> 01:05:55.840
can find well use back in the
eighties and the nineties obviously, but we

853
01:05:55.840 --> 01:06:00.639
can still find, for example,
the classic maxil Are you are in any

854
01:06:00.920 --> 01:06:02.840
they have that. It doesn't cost
that much. They also used to have

855
01:06:02.880 --> 01:06:08.480
it in Walgreens and things like that
in the US. Now I think they're

856
01:06:08.519 --> 01:06:14.840
they're trying to remove that unfortunately,
so I don't know. It's not that

857
01:06:14.880 --> 01:06:17.559
easy to find them online, yes, much more easy, and that's already

858
01:06:17.599 --> 01:06:20.440
a good cassette, no problem.
You don't have to go and get the

859
01:06:20.519 --> 01:06:25.920
chrome cassettes, the medal cassettes,
which cost indeed a little more, sometimes

860
01:06:26.039 --> 01:06:30.639
too much, even because they're not
producing them anymore. The only cassettes in

861
01:06:30.679 --> 01:06:33.519
production are Type one, which is
the basic type. The special ones you

862
01:06:33.559 --> 01:06:38.639
have to look for new old stock
and os which you can find them on

863
01:06:38.800 --> 01:06:43.239
eBay, and people ask obviously a
crazy prices for them. So but don't

864
01:06:43.239 --> 01:06:46.599
worry. Start with the normal cassette. Get a normal, decent deck.

865
01:06:46.920 --> 01:06:53.480
And I mean the experience of creating, for example, mixtape, it's overwhelming

866
01:06:53.519 --> 01:06:56.199
sometimes, I mean a lot of
people just grab the computer and say,

867
01:06:56.239 --> 01:06:59.440
oh my god, I tried this
that you were suggesting. It's so fun,

868
01:06:59.440 --> 01:07:02.639
it's so cool. I really feel
an interaction when music. It's participating

869
01:07:02.679 --> 01:07:08.320
to it, which instead and while
you're streaming it's very passive. Exactly.

870
01:07:08.360 --> 01:07:11.840
You know, I'm going to show
you something now for our audiences just listening.

871
01:07:12.079 --> 01:07:15.599
I'm about to show Guido a cassette
that I bought a bunch of cassettes,

872
01:07:15.760 --> 01:07:16.440
right, So, like I said, I'm back into them, So

873
01:07:16.519 --> 01:07:19.719
let me show you what I've got
in my hand. And there you go.

874
01:07:20.039 --> 01:07:23.480
Yeah, so that's one of the
best there. Oh is it really?

875
01:07:24.280 --> 01:07:30.079
Yeah? I got Excel two's and
I came to find out, you

876
01:07:30.119 --> 01:07:32.440
know, when I was searching for
him, I thought, oh my goodness,

877
01:07:32.760 --> 01:07:36.360
I don't remember them being this expensive
back when I was a kid.

878
01:07:36.880 --> 01:07:41.280
But then again, I didn't shop
around for these type. I didn't know.

879
01:07:41.559 --> 01:07:45.159
I had no idea because me either, because nobody taught us, right,

880
01:07:45.320 --> 01:07:48.440
nobody said, you know we I
mean, we thought that whenever we

881
01:07:48.519 --> 01:07:53.000
bought a cassette from the store,
we thought that that was the best sounding

882
01:07:53.000 --> 01:07:56.360
that it can get. We had
no idea, And it's not until me

883
01:07:56.400 --> 01:08:00.119
at age forty eight, that I'm
learning that you can get a cassette,

884
01:08:00.480 --> 01:08:02.599
a good cassette with a good deck, and make it sound as good as

885
01:08:02.599 --> 01:08:06.519
a CD, absolutely even more.
I mean, the frequency response of a

886
01:08:06.800 --> 01:08:11.599
cassette can even surpass that of a
CD if you don't how what you're doing.

887
01:08:11.679 --> 01:08:15.039
So I've come to find that out, and which blows my mind indeed

888
01:08:15.360 --> 01:08:17.680
exactly, because I mean, if
you're if you start using for example,

889
01:08:17.680 --> 01:08:20.239
in the right way, do'll be
do'll be C, they'll be B or

890
01:08:20.279 --> 01:08:24.800
even DBX. If you're lucky to
have a deck with DBX, the his

891
01:08:25.359 --> 01:08:29.880
it's gone, and the dynamic range, which is the loud distance and the

892
01:08:29.920 --> 01:08:34.920
smallest peak in music, we could
say in the sound are greatly enhanced.

893
01:08:35.359 --> 01:08:40.560
And there you go. I mean, you have a quality product that again

894
01:08:40.680 --> 01:08:45.399
we did not experience when we were
young. But prerecorded cassettes we have to

895
01:08:45.520 --> 01:08:48.600
we have to remember this aren't that
good. I mean, because maybe a

896
01:08:48.640 --> 01:08:50.840
lot of people are saying, Okay, I want to try this. Let's

897
01:08:50.920 --> 01:08:55.479
let me buy I don't know,
a rolling Stone cassettes cassette. Put it

898
01:08:55.520 --> 01:08:59.279
there on my deck. Oh it's
not that good. Actually, that's the

899
01:09:00.159 --> 01:09:03.319
side of prerecorded cassettes. Because they're
dubbed very, very fast, and the

900
01:09:03.399 --> 01:09:06.680
quality isn't that good. But if
you get a blank cassette, a virgin

901
01:09:06.720 --> 01:09:11.000
cassette, and you put your own
music or as you said, from a

902
01:09:11.039 --> 01:09:15.640
streaming service, a quality possibly streaming
service, at that point you're gonna have

903
01:09:15.960 --> 01:09:18.800
top notch quality. Yeah. And
I've been learning this and like I said,

904
01:09:18.840 --> 01:09:21.640
I've been blown away. I'm like
a little kid with a brand new

905
01:09:21.680 --> 01:09:27.840
toy all over again, especially because
I know the toy it's and it's so

906
01:09:27.920 --> 01:09:30.439
exciting because that's I've been doing this
and now I'm getting kind of obsessed,

907
01:09:30.439 --> 01:09:34.760
so i gotta stop. So we
talked about the cassette types and would you

908
01:09:34.880 --> 01:09:40.840
recommend a certain tape deck from a
certain era so rather than get a brand

909
01:09:40.880 --> 01:09:43.039
new one or just you know what, just get what you can get your

910
01:09:43.039 --> 01:09:46.399
hands on. Or would you recommend
eighties cassette decks or nineties cassette decks or

911
01:09:46.439 --> 01:09:50.960
you know what? Your feedback on
that good question. Well, the pinnacle.

912
01:09:51.199 --> 01:09:55.600
The pinnacle, and this is objective, is the second part of the

913
01:09:55.600 --> 01:09:59.920
eighties. I mean, the quality
of those decks is going to be unsurpassed

914
01:10:00.039 --> 01:10:03.840
because people are not going to start
doing them again, unfortunate and sadly so

915
01:10:04.000 --> 01:10:09.880
if you're already getting something from that
era, you're you're set. No problem.

916
01:10:10.680 --> 01:10:14.359
The probably the best brands are going
to be Nakamichi for those who are

917
01:10:14.399 --> 01:10:17.479
really interested and really want to get
the Maximum, which is a historical brand

918
01:10:17.520 --> 01:10:24.840
from Japan which made things like called
the Nakamichi Dragon or the I mean,

919
01:10:25.159 --> 01:10:29.079
they made incredible things, but those
are a little too expensive if we're talking

920
01:10:29.119 --> 01:10:32.399
about a basic set, even though
there are Nakamichi basic sets, a basic

921
01:10:32.760 --> 01:10:36.279
decks, so no problem with that. But even a good Sony, when

922
01:10:36.319 --> 01:10:41.039
Sony was an excellent brand, Sorry
Sony, I have to say this.

923
01:10:41.720 --> 01:10:44.840
Yeah, you know, I've noticed
Sony has dropped the ball quite a bit.

924
01:10:44.880 --> 01:10:48.560
It fell from what they were in
the eighties, it has fallen quite

925
01:10:48.600 --> 01:10:53.079
a ways. Yes. Indeed,
in fact, even the Walkman's I mean

926
01:10:53.520 --> 01:10:57.720
a few, a few types of
Walkman's are just as good as as decks.

927
01:10:57.840 --> 01:11:04.199
They're they're they're so amazingly conceived and
produced and optimized. So also Pioneer

928
01:11:04.199 --> 01:11:10.640
for examples. Again it's a great
brand Akai Techniques. But again I mean,

929
01:11:11.000 --> 01:11:14.399
don't don't don't wrap your mind around
this, just go for something of

930
01:11:14.520 --> 01:11:17.039
mid eighties and you can't go wrong. Well, that's been great. And

931
01:11:17.319 --> 01:11:24.439
lastly, let's talk about vinyl,
because vinyl is a format that the newer

932
01:11:24.479 --> 01:11:28.359
generation knows because they they say,
you know, they hear the words sometimes

933
01:11:28.439 --> 01:11:31.640
record, but they don't really know
what a record is. And when you

934
01:11:31.680 --> 01:11:36.560
say vinyl, they they think of
plastic, flame, plastic, so they

935
01:11:36.560 --> 01:11:42.880
have no idea. But vinyl.
UM talk to us a little bit about

936
01:11:43.399 --> 01:11:46.920
the experience of vinyl and also,
um, if it's maybe a format to

937
01:11:46.960 --> 01:11:50.600
get into, definitely, I mean, this is the this is the right

938
01:11:50.640 --> 01:11:56.199
moment, guys, because something else
that we didn't have is the possibility to

939
01:11:56.600 --> 01:12:00.199
listen to an album before buying it, so to Spotify. That's how I

940
01:12:00.319 --> 01:12:04.760
use Spotify. I just listened to
a few seconds of the tracks I see

941
01:12:04.760 --> 01:12:08.520
if I like it, and then
I head and go might get my nice

942
01:12:08.520 --> 01:12:13.239
little vinyl record or cassette sometimes if
they do it. So that's already something

943
01:12:13.319 --> 01:12:16.720
very easy and helpful. And then
obviously thanks. I don't know if I

944
01:12:16.720 --> 01:12:20.239
can say all these brands here on
air, you can say anything you want.

945
01:12:20.319 --> 01:12:25.399
Yeah, absolutely, I mean Amazon, thank god we have Amazon also

946
01:12:25.439 --> 01:12:29.680
here in Italy. They deliver great, great albums and just no time.

947
01:12:29.800 --> 01:12:33.880
So obviously that's probably the best source
because they're not that many records shops anymore.

948
01:12:34.359 --> 01:12:38.760
That's also something good, pond something
positive the record stores shop, even

949
01:12:38.800 --> 01:12:43.159
though that's also becoming a little too
commercial. We could say, now,

950
01:12:43.159 --> 01:12:46.159
do you guys have a lot of
maybe a few record stores in Italy or

951
01:12:46.439 --> 01:12:49.359
like where around you where you live? Well, yeah, I mean in

952
01:12:49.439 --> 01:12:54.439
Florence. I live nearby Florence.
They're like two or three, but they

953
01:12:54.560 --> 01:12:59.119
have mainly CDs, DVDs, things
like that, a little bit of vinyl

954
01:12:59.159 --> 01:13:00.960
in a corner because its trendy,
and that's about it. I mean,

955
01:13:01.000 --> 01:13:04.880
there's not a turntable to try something
out. There's not a guy in the

956
01:13:04.920 --> 01:13:08.880
shop who knows what he's talking about. So that's a little sad, I

957
01:13:08.960 --> 01:13:13.760
must admit, and that's why YouTube
is helpful in this sense, or programs

958
01:13:13.800 --> 01:13:17.520
like yours. Well, this is
still back to the eighties and that's one

959
01:13:17.560 --> 01:13:21.880
of the main reasons that we're doing
this. It's been great having you,

960
01:13:21.920 --> 01:13:25.680
Guido, and I hope that we
can have you back on because one of

961
01:13:25.680 --> 01:13:30.680
these days we're going to have a
whole program dedicated to the technical aspect of

962
01:13:30.920 --> 01:13:33.840
analog and I want you to come
back if you're available, of course.

963
01:13:34.239 --> 01:13:38.359
Wow, sure, absolutely, thank
you Mario. That would be fantastic.

964
01:13:38.560 --> 01:13:41.479
Now do me a favor because I
know there's a lot of people who are

965
01:13:41.680 --> 01:13:45.520
interested in finding out more. How
do people get in touch if they want

966
01:13:45.560 --> 01:13:49.560
to watch your channel? Where do
they go and how can they find you

967
01:13:49.600 --> 01:13:57.319
to start learning? Well, just
head to YouTube and write on a dialogue,

968
01:13:57.439 --> 01:14:01.079
which is obviously the combination of analog
and dialogue. Yes, on YouTube

969
01:14:01.119 --> 01:14:08.319
you're usually talking by yourself, but
I like to entitle my channel analogue dialogue

970
01:14:08.359 --> 01:14:12.600
because I like to interact with people, especially with comments, and hopefully in

971
01:14:12.600 --> 01:14:15.000
the future will do also some live
sessions, which is a little more difficult

972
01:14:15.039 --> 01:14:18.159
due to the to the time,
but we'll try to do that. Do

973
01:14:18.199 --> 01:14:23.560
you have an email that they can
send you some you know mail or would

974
01:14:23.560 --> 01:14:27.000
you rather have them go to your
Facebook? Maybe? Sure? I mean

975
01:14:27.399 --> 01:14:30.920
you can. You can write me
at Anna dialogue at yahoo dot com,

976
01:14:31.000 --> 01:14:34.079
for example, or you can find
me on Facebook at just as well and

977
01:14:34.199 --> 01:14:38.720
a dialogue. It's very simple.
You don't need brackets because my name is

978
01:14:38.720 --> 01:14:41.760
with brackets, but no problem.
You can just write an a dialogue and

979
01:14:41.800 --> 01:14:45.039
you'll find me. Hey, Guido, before we go, what is your

980
01:14:45.359 --> 01:14:51.760
favorite music and band to have on
cassette? Ah? Well, okay,

981
01:14:51.760 --> 01:14:56.239
I have to spoil and now the
whole the whole program because I'm a seventy

982
01:14:56.319 --> 01:14:59.359
guy at hey in terms of music, and we love seventies. Hey,

983
01:14:59.439 --> 01:15:02.800
nothing wrong with seventies. Absolutely not. Seventies rock all the way, baby.

984
01:15:03.000 --> 01:15:06.079
Probably I don't know, Dark Side
of the Moon on a metal cassette,

985
01:15:06.159 --> 01:15:11.720
that's probably the pinnacle. That is
beauty, that is beauty in the

986
01:15:11.800 --> 01:15:15.760
making. Once again, thanks Gredo
for being on here with us. This

987
01:15:15.880 --> 01:15:17.840
is back to the eighties. We're
gonna come back with more madness with the

988
01:15:18.000 --> 01:15:35.640
Kanowin chain. Don't go away.
You're listening to back to the eighties.

989
01:15:35.800 --> 01:15:40.399
You are listening to back to the
eighties. Letting you know that you can

990
01:15:40.439 --> 01:15:45.279
always find us here every single Friday
and on Facebook all the time. We

991
01:15:45.319 --> 01:15:50.439
want to remind you to keep listening
as we travel through very tough times here

992
01:15:50.439 --> 01:15:55.359
with the COVID nineteen and other things
that are getting closer in the month of

993
01:15:55.399 --> 01:15:59.439
November. We all know what those
things are, So just be good humans

994
01:15:59.439 --> 01:16:02.479
to each other. Remember that be
good to your family, Be good to

995
01:16:02.520 --> 01:16:06.079
yourself because at the end of the
day, you deserve it. So from

996
01:16:06.119 --> 01:16:10.279
Tiscano, I just want to say
I have a great week. We'll talk

997
01:16:10.319 --> 01:16:14.119
to you and listen to you next
Friday. Chang here. Before I release

998
01:16:14.199 --> 01:16:17.319
you into this glorious weekend, I
want you to remember to stay lifted and

999
01:16:17.319 --> 01:16:20.760
gifted. Remember to go out there
and hug somebody. All we do something

1000
01:16:21.199 --> 01:16:26.600
great for somebody that can't do for
themselves. But we're talking about the great

1001
01:16:26.800 --> 01:16:30.359
era of the Analog. It reminds
me of a song by a great band

1002
01:16:30.520 --> 01:16:36.399
Rush. This song is from the
album Signals and this is the analog Kid,

1003
01:16:38.119 --> 01:16:42.640
and I will take you into this
song as I say ad adios,

1004
01:16:42.800 --> 01:16:46.640
asta la vista and orderly to all
my homies. Catch your next Friday.

1005
01:16:46.960 --> 01:17:06.640
See ya, I season because the
home child, no house to burns house,

1006
01:17:06.680 --> 01:17:20.159
the fucking in my bos. Take
me back to the cold days and

1007
01:17:20.600 --> 01:17:28.960
three take me back now? Want
to go to three days? Take me

1008
01:17:29.000 --> 01:17:32.720
back to nine my ms al y
whoa