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I'm Tiscano from Tuscano and Chang and
this is the show where we talk

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about the memories that made that decade
so awesome. Together, we're introducing the

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eighties to a whole new generation.
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the chang Ah. Yes, boys and

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The individual tonight is none other than one

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of the legendary greatest rock and roll
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to those who are fighting for a
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generation ECO. When I am cruising
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Central California made. I will look
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All right, more eighties stock coming
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of the most recognized voices in the
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is the one and only Back to
the Eighties Radio. Okay, this is

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Lorie Miller from the first and original
Expose and you're listening to Back to the

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Eighties Radio. If you can't wear
a spandex jumpsuit, what can you do

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this Back to the eighties. Welcome
back to Back to the Eighties. You

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are sitting in with Tuscano Win Chang
and tonight we are revisiting what do the

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nineteen eighties mean to you? Topic? Troy Cordova says, the movies were

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just great and terrific television. I
agree, now I know one television show

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was better back in the eighties.
And don't say it, okay, okay,

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good. I thought you were gonna
say mash and I was gonna just

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go to a break real quick,
because stop, to me, mash is

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the equivalent of rush in music.
Okay, Now you get the idea you

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have something against the sah. I
didn't even think about that. What was

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your favorite program on TV? Cheers? Cheers, Okay, all right,

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that's passable Cheers. You know.
I love knowing that you can go to

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a bar be an alcoholic and everybody
doesn't care because of your friends, and

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everyone knows your name. I recall
bar. I grew up with a bar

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like that really quick, and that
was called the Prime Cut on Beverly Boulevard,

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and that was kind of like our
own Cheers. Everybody did know your

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name, you know, even the
cops knew who you were. So you

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know, nine times out of ten, you're not gonna go to jail,

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but you're gonna give him your keys
and pick it up. I gotta say,

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my favorite TV program, Um three
Company Stop is that because you were

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a dirty little boy or that's exactly
why, because I couldn't get enough of

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watching obviously Janet and Cindy and Terry
after that, and she was a little

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didn't care for the character. A
good looking woman, but I didn't care

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for the character. Yeah, to
me, Jack Ritter, Jack Ritter was

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the character that brought I mean John
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Jack Tripper Jack with their character.
The character was very reminiscent of visiting Dick

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van Dyke back in the Dick Van
Dyke Show days. I believe that's the

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fifties. If you, I don't
know if you remember such a show like

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that. Well, no, I
wasn't more in the fifties. No,

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I wasn't. I wasn't around.
But but you were in early twenties in

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the fifties, right, oh,
wow, wow, wow your poster life.

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No, I did not of John
and Pond, No, it did

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not. And you cut out John's
face. No, and you would look

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a mirror with your face where John
was that you were right, all right?

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Philip Sandoval said that he loved eighties
cars. You know what's interesting about

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the eighties is that as nice as
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complete opposite. You had the crappiest
cars that have ever come out, I

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think, in the history of vehicles. And the number one car that comes

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under my mind, well, there
are three cars that come to my mind,

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all right, the crappiest cars and
the ugliest. Here we go,

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starting with the Ugo with a sticker
price at brand new that's you know,

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four thousand bucks for brand new dollars. The Ugo is in third place,

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number two, the AMC Pacer,
remember the Pacer. Disgusting and in number

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one place of the ugliest car for
me, which, by the way,

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if you ever drove a stick shift, they only had three speeds and that

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is also an AMC car, I
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The funny thing is like you could
hide your hideousness with big hair,

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but you couldn't hide a hideous car
nowhere. Oh no. And one thing

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that I always tell my kids about
the eighties compared to today. For example,

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let me let me let me give
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I was dropping my kids off at
Fountain Valley High School and as I'm dropping

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them off, I noticed that the
kids there, a lot of them were

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coming to school either mismatched, wearing
their pjs the you know, the pajama

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pants to school, wearing sandals and
socks. And I told my kids,

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all right, you see this picture
here, the guy wearing the pj's with

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his sandals and socks. It would
have never happened in the eighties. A

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big thing that the eighties had was
materialism. Every kid in school cared how

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they looked, and they weren't wearing
to what they thought or what they liked.

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If they weren't wearing brandname clothes for
whatever their style was, they wouldn't

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be caught dead wearing pgs to school, never, especially in high school.

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Bro. If I would have been
in high school and some cat would have

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rolled in with their jammies and their
Jesus sandals, man, I would have

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I would have had probably ten thousand
jokes ready to go. Right, you

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know what I mean? Whoa you
just rolled out of bed? Wow,

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exactly dressed to impress. I guess
you're already dressed for a prison suit.

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And apparently today apparently today, Sorry, your mom couldn't do your lawn exactly,

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my house exactly. And I told
my kids, I go, you

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know, as a matter of fact, when we drive up to school,

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do you know how many times I
tell them jokes about people? And I

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just can't help myself. I gotta
do it. And then I'll see somebody

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and I go, hey, hey, check this out, and I'll give,

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you know, tell him a joke
about somebody, and I'll tell them

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that would have never happened when I
was a kid, because we were so

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overly conscious and the kids would make
fun of you if you weren't wearing name

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brand clothes. Yeah, I remember
kids wearing zodies, wranglers, Remember wranglers.

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They would wear them to school,
they'd be made fun of. And

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unless you were wearing Guess jeans or
Levi's, they'd make fun of you.

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Now, if you wore georgash or
Sergio Valente, you were even up the

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higher scale, or you were you
were rocking, brother, right, you

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were ready for the club. How
about dittos? Yeah? Another great thing

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that I miss about the eighties,
bro, was the fashion. Yeah yeah,

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I mean who who could or would
ever forget the fashion of dittos and

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what they did to the backside of
any girl that wore them. Yeah.

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I mean you could be a dude, maybe a gymnast and put a pair

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of dittos on. Man, you're
gonna have some people wisdom, my brother.

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You know what, This is the
one and only back to the eighties

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radio show. Stay tuned because on
the way back, I promise you you're

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not going to regret it. One
of the greatest FM rock and roll jocks

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in terrestrial radio into Los Angeles,
California as a young boy and teenager.

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I idolize him, so did to
Sconnell Ladies. And gentlemen, you will

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have to put your hands together from
mister Shadow Stevens right here and back to

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the eighties. Don't go away,
We'll be right back back to the eighties.

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Good money, na Hey, this
is not a task. This is

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rock and roll. Time to rocket
from the delta to the DMZ. Is

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that me or does that sound like
an Elvis Presley movie? Va dinan oh

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oh Dana nine, don't don't hang
me, I don't get a roban hangmer

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Hey, it's a little too early
for being that loud. Hey, too

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late eighties for laying that's because we
had to live through this decade. Yet

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you're listening to back to the eighties. You are listening to Back to the

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Eighties Radio. We are back and
has promised of course with us today.

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Is one of the most recognized voices
in the entire planet. He's been an

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award winning worldwide personality and innovator for
radio, television, film, new media

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and visual arts. You may have
known him from American Top forty, which

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aired in one hundred and ten countries
heard by more than one billion people a

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week. He's been on The Late
Show with Craig ferguson the Voice of Antenna

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TV Network and today he's going to
be talking to us about his current project,

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which is incredibly awesome, so stick
around. He is a man,

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a myth, and a legend.
Shadow Stevens Shadow, thank you for coming

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on back to the eighties radio with
us, and never before in history so

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much meant so little to so many. Before we get started, I wanted

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to pay my deepest respect you,
sir. It is you and other jocks

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such as the real Don Steel,
Jim Ladd, everybody from KMET where you

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were once the voice of a generation. They were still doing rock and roll.

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They were not doing the alternative thing
yet. Correct. I was hired

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from KRLA because I did so well
at CARLA. There was such big ratings

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and we put album Rock on AM
and it was really unheard of at the

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time. Then I was offered to
go to k Rock because they were going

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to come. They were going to
have an FM station, and he said,

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I want you to do something as
creative as you did at KRLA and

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uh, and then he offered me
a Porsche and I want what could I

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do? Of course? I went
over and they were still like a top

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forty station on AM. And then
there was a whole. There's a whole.

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It's like it's really complicated and long
and very dramatic. But there was

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a hostile overthrow of the company and
then they fired everybody that was in the

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hostile overthrow, and the guy who
started it took over again and he said,

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okay, you're it, make it
work, and a short time later

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they got the FM signal. And
I've not only designed the format and the

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promos and the marketing and the studio
and the log and everything, but signed

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it on and that is on my
website, actually, the actual sign on

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of k Rock. It's on Shadow
dot com and a bunch of other the

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things that we did at that time
with the Flow and Eddie show, you

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know, Mark Bowman and Howard Kipp
who had everybody, i mean, Keith

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Moon and Ringo and the who's who
of entertainment were on that show. It

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was inredibly exciting and it signed on
in late seventy three, and then we

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went and it was almost a direct
went from zero ratings to one of the

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top stations in town in like four
months, and everybody in town was listening.

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And within six months we weren't being
paid and people were suffering and going

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bankrupt, and they were all staying
there because we had created such an exciting,

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state of the art, cutting edge
station and it was it broke all

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the rules. When we signed it
on, it was all up, all

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rock, all the time, twenty
four hour party. We'll be playing hard

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rock in the morning and the midday, in the middle of the night,

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and come along because this is a
NonStop party. And that's what happened.

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Everywhere you went all over town.
People were listening to k rock and we

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had Flowing Eddie on and that was
like just super exciting. When everybody wasn't

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being paid. I finally couldn't take
it anymore and I quit. And the

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day I quit, the whole staff
quit and we did a go and we

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were just talking about this this week
because I found the tape of that last

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show and it was my goal away
party and Flowing Eddie were there and the

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room was backed with people and it
was all intensely up music and we were

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just going this as yet we're saying
goodbye. I want to say goodbye the

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biggest, most exciting way. They
turned the transmitter off and we were left

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sitting there like what wow. And
then A was hired. A new manager

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showed up at the door and he
said, I want you off the premises.

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Immediately, I got up and I
walked over to him, and I

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looked down at him and I said, you need to turn around and leave

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right now, or something ugly is
going to happen. And he kind of

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trembled a bit and turned and left, and I packed up my stuff and

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went up to my office and cried. It was devastating, sure, and

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I vowed never to be in radio
again. You also created that energy with

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KAMT right, I mean, that's
what happened. I started my production company

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which would later produce Federated and all
these different advertising campaigns like the Blues Brothers

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movie in forty eight hours and Fast
Times of all this stuff. We did

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all of that. At the time, it was just starting and I was

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really struggling, and the manager of
KMET came to me and made me an

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offer I couldn't reviuse. So there
I did it again, and in six

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months it was the number one station
in town. I still have the ratings.

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It was unheard of how big that
station was. You guys painted the

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forefront to me the blueprint of rock
and roll radio in Los Angeles rock and

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roll radio in Los Angeles. I
think you guys were the forefathers, the

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pioneers of ass kicking from rock and
roll radio, and I believe that that

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was a creation with the Donna Hues
also correct. Now, Donna Hue had

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a whole different thing going, and
he was very revolutionary at the time,

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and his was free form radio.
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and the personality would play whatever they
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people get self indulgent and they go, well, I'm just gonna play blues

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today or I'm just going to play
country today. And the audience at the

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time it was high quality, so
they kind of went along with it and

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they went, oh, this is
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never got any ratings, It never
got a mass audience. So when I

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came in, I streamlined it and
made it like our whole job was to

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find new music, and we would
all agree upon all of this amazing amount

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of music and put it in a
kind of rotation that allowed for you know,

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really obscure things, really brand new
things, album cuts, but all

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of it fit the format and everybody
would go along with it. And then

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we would always keep up to date
week by week, and then gave it

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theater, a theater of the mind
melody with funny contests and real personalities be

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Mitchell Read and Jimmy Rabbit and Stephen
Clean. These guys were really amazing people.

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One of the things that both Chang
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different shows is the on our personality
back then and if I can take you

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into the nineteen eighties, starting from
nineteen eighty on the radio, personality became

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a staple in so many homes.
You did also the top forty correcting.

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It was as nationally syndicated show as
well. Yeah, Well, what happened

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was I stayed at KMT one year
and they the manager got real. He

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took he took credit for all of
the things I'd done, ordered me to

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fire three people, two of whom
I really loved, and they were brilliant,

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like brother John. My brother John
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personalities of all time and also the
voice of God. I told him I

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wouldn't do it. I said,
you're not going to make me into you.

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I said, you're gonna have to
get somebody else because I'm not doing

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that. And I and I quit
and walked out, packed up the office,

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moved over to my studio, and
went, I'm done with radio forever.

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Wow. A year and a half
goes by and K Rock, which

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had been off the air since I
signed, you know, the Statesman's turned

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off. They come back to me
and they say, we want you to

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come back, and I want You're
never going to pay me. I'm like,

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why would I do that? Sure, but by this time I had

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a thriving production company. I said, I'll tell you what I will consult

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and I'll do my best to give
it some structure and make it something and

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give it some personality. But people
aren't going to listen to me because they're

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not being daid. They're going to
do what they want to do, and

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I won't be able to control that. I'll tell you what i'll do that

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will do. I will go and
do two weekend shows myself, and I'll

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sell all the advertising and I'll keep
all the money. And he said fine.

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So I did that, and I
did that through the seventies and made

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a lot of money and until I
couldn't take it anymore because it's the worst

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studio in the history of radio.
As we're turning into the eighties, I

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quit and Rick Carroll called me and
he said, look, these guys have

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been talking to me about coming in
and programming K Rock. What am I

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you know? What am I up
against? Yeah? Well, Rick,

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here's what. It's a great opportunity
for you to make a statement and do

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something really terrific. Chances, sorry, you won't get paid, and it'll

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be really difficult, but if you
just focus on the music, and if

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you can get some order to the
music and make it hot and new and

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call it something really catchy rock of
the eighties or something, and you know,

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you can really do something exciting and
people will hear it and hopefully you'll

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end up getting paid in the end. And he goes okay, and he

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did, and he did a great
job. I listened all the time,

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all those guys, I know,
all those guys Jed the Fish and all

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the guys including Kevin and Bean who
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I was a fan in the eighties, and then that was after federated.

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After the television campaigns and the radio
campaign that I did out of the company,

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you were also did acting also though
shut up well, the acting came

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as a result of Federated, because
I did eleven hundred commercials. Commercial ran

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longer than ten days, and my
little team was like a MOUNTI Bython group

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produced, wrote, produced, edited, created, uploaded, and did it

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again week after week for years.
And so I did all these different characters.

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And on the heat of that,
because it was so huge, they

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went from fourteen local stores in southern
California to seventy eight superstores like best buy

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type stores, right in four years. So we were opening in Texas and

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Oklahoma and Arizona, New Mexico and
California and doing whole campaigns and it was

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remarkable. And on the heat of
that, came an offered to do a

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movie, which was Tracks, and
it was Dino de la Retentis, and

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I thought, I'm gonna have a
chance to act. I mean, hell

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yes, I'll take this chance.
So I had this three picture deal and

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they had in this movie was so
the script was so insane and went,

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well, this kind of fits me. So so I go off to do

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Tracks. Quit Federated. That's a
whole other story. You know how that

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fell apart. Just before I went
to shoot Tracks, a guy came to

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me and I got The first guy
to ever put me on television, Rick

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Rosner, and he did it when
I was in Boston and I did a

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show in Boston called Gazebo, and
I was the youth correspondent for Dave Garroway's

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Tempo Boston. And so when I
came to la Rick also was the one

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to put me on as Steve Allen's
sidekick. So I'm on the Steve Allen

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Show nationwide. And then Rick and
I hardly saw each other, but in

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the mid eighties he came to me
and said, we're going to bring back

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Hollywood Squares. Would you help us
do the demo? So I did the

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voice of the demo and you know, and it was the biggest hit of

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the year. He comes to me
and he said, we want you to

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be a part of the show.
And I went, no, I don't

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want to just be an announcer.
I have a shot at acting, and

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I'm going off to do this film. And then he came back to me

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again. And the third time he
came back, he said, I'll tell

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you what. We'll put you in
a square and you do the announcing from

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the square, and you can also
be a personality in the square. And

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you can be funny and you can
talk about the things you've got going on

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and talk about this movie that's coming
out. Okay, that's a great idea.

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Now you go. Now you got
camera time. Yeah. And it

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was in this little funky studio over
at Channel five, and we had no

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idea how huge it was going to
be. And pretty soon we're selling out

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Radio City Music Hall. It was
astonishing. So now at this time,

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now I'm like kind of the Ryan
Seacrest of the moment. Sure all over

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the country. You know, I've
got this name value. So American Top

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forty Casey Cason didn't like the way
they were treating him after he sold the

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business to them, and he had
an opportunity to go create a new show

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for more money and he took it. So they're scrambling, they're freaking out

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because it's the biggest show, a
radio show in the world. And they

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auditioned eleven hundred people. Some of
them were movie stars, television stars,

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and me from television from Hollywood squares
in my background and radio and I auditioned

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four or five times and they gave
it to me. So that's how American

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Top forty came. And I was. You know, you guys know,

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everything I've done in my whole life
has all been parody, humor, tongue

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in cheek, funny. Yeah,
I'm going to sit in and become the

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host of a radio show known for
the world's most sincere man, right right,

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and I can't do that. The
first show took eighteen hours to record

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because every line had to be restructured
for my from my mouth and give it

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a little humor or a little tongue
in cheek, or a little wit,

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or a little something or her I
sounded reedy and terrible, and his whole

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thing. He's just the most earnest
man who ever lived, and really nice

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man. He was a friend of
mine, and not a good friend at

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the time. Later he became one. Back when my children were growing up.

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His daughter Liberty used to come to
our parties, and we'd go to

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their parties and so on. But
but Casey's a genuinely a good guy.

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But he's earnest. Keep your feet
on the ground and keep reaching for the

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stars. Let's take a little break. When we come back, We've got

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more with Shadow Stevens and some surprises
you're listening to. Back to the eight

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sister Gerbachok teared down this wall.
Hello music fans. Gordon Lightfoot is one

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of the greatest folk rock artists of
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celebrating and discussing his work song by
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And every episode your host, that's
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of Gordon's songs with the help of
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cup of tea, give us a
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you get your listening matter. That's
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of the That's Not Canon podcast Network. If they were a laxative, they'd

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be so powerful you could stand on
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position would not only be unavailing,
but also undignified. And now back to

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the eighties with Tescato and Chang.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to back

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to the eighties with the legendary,
the iconic voice of the past, one

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of the individuals that created Terrestrial do
it to be what it needs, the

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legendary mister Shadow Stevens. Boys and
girls, thank you very much, psych

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you, thank you. Please sit
down along with the tongue with you.

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How you guys doing, We're doing
great, We're back and if you just

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joined us here, we're of course
talking with Shadow. Stevens talked to us

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a little bit about radio in the
eighties and what that meant to you.

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I personally like the eighties myself and
I worked in the seventies and I worked

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in the eighties, and but I
was doing radio that wasn't really like what

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I liked. I liked doing it. It was a great honor, but

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it wasn't radio. It wasn't theater
of the mind. It wasn't what radio

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had become. And the greatest me
I like the eighties music so much in

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that era, so much that I
wrote a screenplay about it, which was

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kind of a a cross between k
Rock and Kmet and different people that I

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knew, But it was full of
this, It's full of this great tears

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for fears in Van Halen and Vronsky
Beat and the Cure and Depeche Mode and

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Oengo Boeingo and talking Heads. I
mean, the greatest so yes ever and

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I hadn't ever been able to get
it off the ground. But my passion

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for it is that and and the
truth of it is that radio personalities at

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that time and people will have trouble
identifying with it today because there's so much

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content available. There's you know,
social media is everywhere, and you know

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everything about every movie and every television
show. But back in the seventies and

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eighties and even into the nineties,
it was radio that was the soundtrack.

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That was the soundtrack of people's lives, right what you listened to in the

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car and you had on it at
home, and you you know, as

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you drove across town it would as
you're going to your work or whatever,

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you're listening to some great music that
you love, and then you hear somebody

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being funny and giving you a lift
and telling you about a great movie that's

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coming up or a television series that's
coming on. It was the social media

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of the time. A real great
radio personality was you know, kind of

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Johnny Carson and informative and a social
media center telling you what's cool and what

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great shows, what movies are coming
out, and the countdown and they're doing

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you know, giveaways to to movie
premiers and it was all very exciting.

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And the guys that were good,
you know, like the guys at K

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Rock were terrific. You know,
Freddy Snake Skin love Freddie, all those

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guys. I used to love,
Jed the Fish, I know, Judge

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is terrific, and you know,
and again, I know all these guys

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and I really like them personally,
but I really enjoyed listening to them,

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and then I would go off and
do my American Top forty, which is

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kind of straight laced and based on
the charts and informative with you know,

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a few interviews and talking about up
from number seventeen, and it lacked that

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spontaneity and that charm that live radio
had, and guys had to work their

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way up and figure out that's I
mean, Jimmy Kimmel came from there,

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and like guys that have proven themselves
to be really fabulous. I mean,

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Jimmy Kimmel is the greatest late night
guy now period. He's clever, he's

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calling, he's just got a unique
style all his own. And that's a

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K Rock guy. And they learned, you know, they learned their their

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tools of their trade, you know, in the trenches out they're showing up

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every day and doing things that really
doesn't exist today because corporations took over radio,

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took all the competition away. And
when you take away competition, people

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stop trying to get better. And
what you have are a bunch of companies

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that are handful of companies that own
all the stations. So they just try

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to keep it as lean as possible, you know, to keep the cast

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of it as low as possible.
And when things start getting tough, who

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did they fire? They fired the
guys who are the personalities reason to listen

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to radio because you can get music
every place. You being the radio personality

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in the style that you didn't coming
from the era where radio was theater of

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the mind, like you said,
and that was the model of Jim Bladden

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many of you in rock and roll
radio. The disc jockey was very much

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as important to radio as the music. You were the individuals really that made

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us want to listen a lot of
times, the voice in the box is

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your friend in your room, your
friend did work, your friend in the

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car. We didn't have cell phones. We were unable to connect with somebody

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00:31:45.559 --> 00:31:48.680
if we were having a bad day, or to talk to somebody to get

407
00:31:48.720 --> 00:31:52.240
through the traffic or the crap that
you were dealing with at the office.

408
00:31:52.440 --> 00:31:57.359
And it was you the radio personality
that gave us the stability, the humor,

409
00:31:57.720 --> 00:32:01.640
and pretty much the kick in the
butt to continue with our day and

410
00:32:01.720 --> 00:32:06.519
get us through the day. And
it was always cool when you guys played

411
00:32:06.839 --> 00:32:12.359
some kick ass music. Do you
think nowadays that radio does suffer to a

412
00:32:12.440 --> 00:32:17.839
magnitude because we have lost that personality, that friend and no question, every

413
00:32:17.880 --> 00:32:22.640
everything is streamlined, and you know, somebody picks the music, all the

414
00:32:22.759 --> 00:32:27.359
order of the music. Somebody gives
you how much time you can talk and

415
00:32:27.400 --> 00:32:30.480
all the things you have to say. Who do you listen to anybody that

416
00:32:30.559 --> 00:32:36.559
stands out right now? It's not
many. If there's a handful, there's

417
00:32:36.599 --> 00:32:42.519
maybe some in hip hop, there
aren't many left and are gone Mark and

418
00:32:42.559 --> 00:32:45.720
Brian are gone, Mark and Brian. Yeah, all these guys taking you

419
00:32:45.759 --> 00:32:49.400
back to the eighties and away from
radio a bit, but into music.

420
00:32:49.960 --> 00:32:52.079
Were you ever? Were you ever
the party type of guy that that said,

421
00:32:52.160 --> 00:32:55.839
you know that hit Sunset and hit
the Whiskey a Go Go and the

422
00:32:57.000 --> 00:33:01.599
Rainbow And I was over in the
corner doing too much of everything. And

423
00:33:02.079 --> 00:33:07.079
I finally had to stop drugs and
alcohol because otherwise I wouldn't be with you

424
00:33:07.160 --> 00:33:12.839
today. Because when you use the
evulsions and carry guns because people are trying

425
00:33:12.839 --> 00:33:16.640
to kill you. Not a good
Yeah. Who's your favorite band? I

426
00:33:16.680 --> 00:33:22.119
can't say that I have a favorite
band. I might be a l I

427
00:33:22.279 --> 00:33:27.279
love Lynn. I started a project
back in the seventies that is going on

428
00:33:27.319 --> 00:33:30.200
to this day, and my son
grew up with me doing it, and

429
00:33:30.279 --> 00:33:35.200
he's more passionate about it than I
am. And it's putting a contemporary soundtrack

430
00:33:35.400 --> 00:33:39.079
to a silent movie, probably the
greatest silent movie ever made. It's two

431
00:33:39.079 --> 00:33:44.680
and a half hours long, and
it's gone through dozens, if not hundreds

432
00:33:44.720 --> 00:33:51.279
of iterations. The latest version has
one hundred and fifty lo songs or pieces

433
00:33:51.279 --> 00:33:55.519
of music or sounds that are all
woven together to make it sound like the

434
00:33:55.559 --> 00:33:59.680
whole thing is being performed live in
front of us, in front of an

435
00:33:59.680 --> 00:34:02.400
audience. But I mean, when
it comes to what I can listen to

436
00:34:04.200 --> 00:34:07.679
most, it's blues. I don't
think anybody has ever been cooler than Muddy

437
00:34:07.679 --> 00:34:16.079
Waters or John Lee Hooker or Doctor
John. I love Doctor John. Besides,

438
00:34:16.199 --> 00:34:22.880
my favorite online radio station is Planet
Poop Wattle, and I've done a

439
00:34:22.920 --> 00:34:27.119
whole bunch of promos for them,
just and donated to him. Is done

440
00:34:27.119 --> 00:34:31.039
by a guy named Michael Sheehy who
used to program KNX FM here in LA

441
00:34:31.239 --> 00:34:37.039
and did this for his own amusement. And he has the best taste of

442
00:34:37.079 --> 00:34:42.840
anybody I've ever met in my life, and a collection of tens of thousands

443
00:34:42.840 --> 00:34:47.039
of songs. I've never listened to
him and not heard something I didn't love

444
00:34:47.119 --> 00:34:51.840
that I'd never heard before. And
then I've been listening for years, I

445
00:34:51.920 --> 00:34:58.639
mean maybe ten years, and he
has maybe ten or twelve thousand interstitials done

446
00:34:58.679 --> 00:35:01.119
by people like me. That just
a planet boot bottle, you know,

447
00:35:01.639 --> 00:35:07.239
the magic brownie of the airwaves.
Nice and I either listened to that or

448
00:35:07.239 --> 00:35:10.239
Blues, I said, pretty much, I don't listen to any any other

449
00:35:10.320 --> 00:35:15.719
radiocs at Howard Stern. Of course, I read somewhere it's ancient wisdom for

450
00:35:15.840 --> 00:35:22.760
modern times. If your own project, Mental Radio is um at the beginning

451
00:35:22.800 --> 00:35:27.280
of the pandemic. In fact,
it's one two years ago yesterday that I

452
00:35:27.320 --> 00:35:30.960
started it. I saw the lockdown
coming and I thought, I want to

453
00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:36.079
create something I can create in my
own studio, mostly by myself, that

454
00:35:36.840 --> 00:35:39.920
is funny, and we'll maybe give
people a lift. Because everybody was full

455
00:35:39.920 --> 00:35:47.400
of dread and gloomy optimistic without being
gooey, you know, like Tonight on

456
00:35:47.519 --> 00:35:52.920
a very special blossom. You know
it not Google, you know, so

457
00:35:52.039 --> 00:35:57.480
no crystals, no beads, no
turbans or sitting in lotus, but telepathic

458
00:35:57.559 --> 00:36:00.119
jolts from the infinite better. So
this would be made up of stories.

459
00:36:00.400 --> 00:36:07.559
And I wanted it to be an
experience and an immersion that is unlike anything

460
00:36:07.840 --> 00:36:13.239
you ever hear. It's audio theater, but it's audio theater on jet fuel.

461
00:36:13.320 --> 00:36:15.840
It goes fast. It's funny,
but it doesn't give you time to

462
00:36:15.920 --> 00:36:21.400
laugh. Sometimes even the sounds are
funny. But it isn't like corny cartoon

463
00:36:21.559 --> 00:36:28.280
downs, and it isn't like nineteen
fifties radio theaters. Its own world and

464
00:36:28.320 --> 00:36:32.360
it's kind of like the Twilight Zone
meets Monty Python. And it's fun to

465
00:36:32.400 --> 00:36:36.400
listen to. And one guy wrote
and said, I like to listen over

466
00:36:36.440 --> 00:36:40.760
and over to chapters because there are
things I always miss because there's so many.

467
00:36:40.840 --> 00:36:45.400
It's so dense with detail. So
I started working on it, and

468
00:36:45.800 --> 00:36:49.880
the first thing that happened was a
guy that used to work for me.

469
00:36:50.599 --> 00:36:54.159
It was my director of the Federated
Commercials and he became a world class music

470
00:36:54.199 --> 00:36:57.719
employee game and I called him.
I said, Chuck, do you have

471
00:36:57.800 --> 00:37:00.719
any His name is Chuck Sereno.
Do you have any music you own the

472
00:37:01.199 --> 00:37:07.039
rights to publishing and copyright that I
could use for this I'm doing this radio

473
00:37:07.079 --> 00:37:09.519
theater audio theater thing. And he
goes, yes. I bet all these

474
00:37:09.559 --> 00:37:14.159
movies I was paid to do and
they didn't ever come out. I own

475
00:37:14.239 --> 00:37:17.000
them all. You can have whatever
you want. So now I have cinematic,

476
00:37:17.400 --> 00:37:23.719
big three D music, every kind
of sound like Morriconi and John Williams.

477
00:37:23.719 --> 00:37:28.599
I mean, it's it's everything.
And then people started talking to me

478
00:37:28.599 --> 00:37:30.079
about you know, I do voices. You know that you need some help.

479
00:37:30.360 --> 00:37:34.280
I'd like to help you with the
writing. And so I've developed this

480
00:37:34.360 --> 00:37:37.880
little kind of Mercury theater or someon
Wells Mercury theater. Yeah, group of

481
00:37:38.039 --> 00:37:44.760
people contributing to this free thing.
I was doing art for art's sake,

482
00:37:45.400 --> 00:37:47.800
just to make people laugh and to
give people a lift. You know,

483
00:37:47.880 --> 00:37:51.760
it started to grow, and now
pretty soon I did more, and I

484
00:37:51.800 --> 00:37:54.599
did more, and I was coming
up with you know, it's got a

485
00:37:54.599 --> 00:38:00.599
whole mythology behind it. It's all
based on reality and then fabricated information told

486
00:38:00.599 --> 00:38:05.880
with great sincerity and absolute conviction.
And I start turning these things out.

487
00:38:06.159 --> 00:38:10.320
And Craig Ferguson listened and he said, it's Flash Gordon l Ron Hubbard,

488
00:38:10.440 --> 00:38:16.519
Captain Marvel, Buckaroo, Bonseye and
everything else. I really really like it.

489
00:38:16.519 --> 00:38:22.119
It's amazing. And they just kept
coming, and it's full of like

490
00:38:22.360 --> 00:38:27.559
stories with cliffhanger endings and different characters. There's a home, there's like brock

491
00:38:27.639 --> 00:38:31.960
Stillwell. Brock Stillwell is like a
superhero. And so here's the story.

492
00:38:32.960 --> 00:38:37.760
In a dark and empty city,
A hostile wind snarls as a lone man

493
00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:44.000
lumbers done a broken sidewalk. Yellow
paper swirls in the wind as he hobbles

494
00:38:44.039 --> 00:38:49.960
over jagged shards of concrete and fragments
of glass. The bleached bones of a

495
00:38:50.039 --> 00:38:54.760
long dead mouse crunch beneath his frayed
flip flops as Lauren Poultry licks chapped lips,

496
00:38:54.880 --> 00:39:00.079
looks at his cracked hands and then
sneers at the heavens, walks into

497
00:39:00.079 --> 00:39:08.320
a hole, an open manhole cup, and there he was a hundred feet

498
00:39:08.360 --> 00:39:12.760
below the street, up to his
neck in siries. And then it just

499
00:39:13.000 --> 00:39:16.800
got working. A torrent of rain
and water rushed down the manhole, and

500
00:39:16.880 --> 00:39:22.440
all around him were slugs, leeches
and rats on lugs. As he grabs

501
00:39:22.440 --> 00:39:27.039
for a wall, a tear falls
from his eyes and lands on a slug,

502
00:39:27.440 --> 00:39:30.079
who flicks it off, onto a
leaf who twitches, and it lands

503
00:39:30.079 --> 00:39:35.239
in the mouth of a rat,
who licks the tear, bears its teeth

504
00:39:35.280 --> 00:39:38.519
and smiles. Estatisfied. Rats smile, and at that moment, a beam

505
00:39:38.559 --> 00:39:43.800
of light from a skintish moon struck
the sparkle of Warren's tears on a rat's

506
00:39:43.880 --> 00:39:46.880
pointed teeth. The light ricochet back
into the sky, burning a symbol on

507
00:39:46.920 --> 00:39:51.920
the clouds, a call for help
that can only mean one thing, and

508
00:39:52.079 --> 00:39:55.199
a secret loft overlooking the city,
a square jawed jackhammer of a man in

509
00:39:55.239 --> 00:40:00.440
a plaid shirt sees the signal rocks
till well, seeing infinity painted on the

510
00:40:00.480 --> 00:40:06.400
sky. I pictured every I envisioned
everything that you spoke apart, and then

511
00:40:06.440 --> 00:40:09.199
I thought, wow, I really
did some ass kicking drugs in the eighties,

512
00:40:09.519 --> 00:40:14.559
and maybe my captain Morgan is kicking
in But man, I believe it's

513
00:40:14.599 --> 00:40:20.159
your last episode and it's about you
know. There's a beach romance. There's

514
00:40:20.159 --> 00:40:22.840
some scenes in there that occur in
a bathroom that we won't go in there.

515
00:40:22.920 --> 00:40:29.760
But what strikes me as awesome is
that you started it. During lockdown,

516
00:40:30.159 --> 00:40:34.159
I was looking at your contributors.
I mean, you have a great

517
00:40:34.199 --> 00:40:37.800
many people helping you out there and
being a part of your team. And

518
00:40:37.960 --> 00:40:43.000
as I was listening to Angst,
I noticed, oh my gosh, they're

519
00:40:43.079 --> 00:40:49.239
great actors. One girl named jac
Wendell was on Dave's World, the sitcom

520
00:40:49.280 --> 00:40:52.320
I did for four years, yes, Harry Anderson, and she played the

521
00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:58.000
kind of ditzy blonde in it,
and she's so good. So I'm I'm

522
00:40:58.000 --> 00:41:04.480
looking for female actors to participate in
the stuff that I'm writing. And I

523
00:41:04.559 --> 00:41:07.760
and I contacted her and I because
we've been friends ever since then, And

524
00:41:07.800 --> 00:41:10.079
I said, do you do other
voices or anything? Goes? Yes?

525
00:41:10.559 --> 00:41:14.119
Are you kidding? I do everything? I mean, what do you mean?

526
00:41:14.239 --> 00:41:16.000
Can you give me a list?
She gives me a list that is

527
00:41:16.159 --> 00:41:24.639
everything from you know, his Girl
Friday nineteen forties women to Helen Mirren too.

528
00:41:25.159 --> 00:41:29.400
I mean everything she says, viking
her an accent. I can do

529
00:41:29.440 --> 00:41:32.800
it almostly, and so she is
my go to, you know, and

530
00:41:32.880 --> 00:41:37.519
I've got a few others too,
who are really good, but she does

531
00:41:37.519 --> 00:41:40.639
everything we did. We did a
one of them has a and one of

532
00:41:40.679 --> 00:41:45.800
the one of the features is um
a game show of the future. We

533
00:41:45.840 --> 00:41:51.440
travel to the future when everybody's smarter
and has it all together, and we

534
00:41:51.519 --> 00:41:57.639
land in a TV game show called
Time Loop. It's Todd Lafontaine and Trudy

535
00:41:57.679 --> 00:42:02.199
delish Jeopardy style questions where they where
they have to answer in ten seconds while

536
00:42:02.679 --> 00:42:07.679
the contestant is spinning in a tilted
whirl and get wrong, you're catapulted into

537
00:42:07.719 --> 00:42:13.360
the air, triggering a temporial shift
in the universe and threatening all life as

538
00:42:13.360 --> 00:42:15.840
we know it. And that's exactly
what happens. They try to answer the

539
00:42:15.920 --> 00:42:22.599
question and I'm sorry, Todd,
and you're screaming into the abyss. There

540
00:42:22.679 --> 00:42:27.920
goes the West Coast. The sound
design on it is hilarious. It's exactly

541
00:42:28.039 --> 00:42:31.360
what you've said. It is in
the theater of the mind. You're listening

542
00:42:31.920 --> 00:42:36.480
and I could hear you narrating,
and as soon as the little bits you

543
00:42:36.519 --> 00:42:40.159
stop narrating, and then here comes
the action. It literally transports me and

544
00:42:40.199 --> 00:42:45.639
I can see it in that in
that movie studio in my mind it's like

545
00:42:45.679 --> 00:42:49.719
you're watching the movie, but you're
not visually watching the movie. There's one

546
00:42:49.800 --> 00:42:53.000
that one of my favorite. They
said, it's about space and it goes.

547
00:42:53.159 --> 00:42:57.280
You know, it talks about is
the space you know, infinite space

548
00:42:57.440 --> 00:43:04.440
is infinite, but is the space
between galaxies the same as the space between

549
00:43:04.519 --> 00:43:07.840
thoughts? And you go and then
it goes. Maybe the reason in this

550
00:43:07.880 --> 00:43:13.360
world we can't get along is because
our brains are stuck in a nineteen forties

551
00:43:13.440 --> 00:43:17.119
newspaper bullpen with typewriters clacking in,
phones ringing, and the voices in our

552
00:43:17.119 --> 00:43:21.360
head are all talking at the same
time. Hank, Trixie, Buck,

553
00:43:21.559 --> 00:43:25.000
Chick Bruise, whatch Bruiser, Haystack, Tucks Turcole, and they're all talking

554
00:43:25.000 --> 00:43:28.760
at the same time. And what
they're doing is they're trying to They're preparing

555
00:43:28.760 --> 00:43:32.440
for a showdown between a guy and
his and his girlfriend. How much space

556
00:43:32.480 --> 00:43:37.000
do you need, Todd, Yeah, back up, yeah, easy,

557
00:43:37.119 --> 00:43:40.559
easy. They're all talking at the
same time. It's really funny. And

558
00:43:40.599 --> 00:43:45.320
then and the way that it works
in the if you listen with earphones to

559
00:43:45.360 --> 00:43:49.880
any of these shows, sounds come
from behind you. They cross over from

560
00:43:49.920 --> 00:43:52.920
one side of your head to another
and you've never heard anything like it.

561
00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:57.480
There's nobody doing anything like Mental Radio. Eighties fans, if you get a

562
00:43:57.559 --> 00:44:01.760
chance, when you listen to these, put your headphones on, you will

563
00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:06.840
thank me for it. Or go
to your car, put the volume up,

564
00:44:06.960 --> 00:44:10.440
close the windows, and it's going
to take you to to another land.

565
00:44:10.960 --> 00:44:15.599
So how can listeners find Mental Radio
and listen to all the awesome episodes.

566
00:44:16.039 --> 00:44:21.119
They can go directly to mental radio
dot net, or you can get

567
00:44:21.199 --> 00:44:24.440
the app is the easiest and quickest, and it has all of this,

568
00:44:24.880 --> 00:44:30.079
you know in each episode. There's
a whole thing in it about meditation as

569
00:44:30.119 --> 00:44:34.599
well, where we give you a
ninety second introduction to meditation so you can

570
00:44:34.639 --> 00:44:38.000
get behind the mind, and there's
a whole thing about taking control of the

571
00:44:38.000 --> 00:44:43.679
way you look at things. But
it's all immersed in all of this wild

572
00:44:43.760 --> 00:44:47.880
humor. But on the app you
can listen to the meditation separately if you

573
00:44:47.920 --> 00:44:52.320
want to. You can listen to
other pieces that never made it into a

574
00:44:52.360 --> 00:44:58.079
show that are pretty funny, and
any of the shows all on your phone,

575
00:44:58.840 --> 00:45:04.360
in your headphones or set you know, on your computer. Either way

576
00:45:04.760 --> 00:45:07.599
is there. It's real easy to
get to or wherever podcasts are heard.

577
00:45:07.679 --> 00:45:12.400
It's just mental radio one one word. When we come back, there's a

578
00:45:12.400 --> 00:45:15.559
lot more with Shadow Stevens. Don't
go away. This is back to the

579
00:45:15.559 --> 00:45:17.679
eighties radio. Ay, some of
you remember the eighties five right? Well?

580
00:45:17.719 --> 00:45:22.920
It lives loud and proud on back
to the eighties with my pals to

581
00:45:23.119 --> 00:45:40.280
scotto a chain. Welcome Eighties fans. I have been expecting you. You

582
00:45:40.480 --> 00:45:49.360
no longer need to listen to any
other podcast. You won't the eighties.

583
00:45:49.400 --> 00:45:58.440
Don't you belonging for it is swelling. You now feel the memories coming to

584
00:45:58.559 --> 00:46:08.000
you and listen to Back to the
Eighties, giving to the stage. With

585
00:46:08.239 --> 00:46:14.559
each passing moment, you make your
seven more of an n eighties fan.

586
00:46:15.480 --> 00:46:25.480
It is an avoidable home. It
is your destiny. You don't know the

587
00:46:25.800 --> 00:46:40.599
power of back to the eighties.
You like your childhood unknown man. It's

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00:46:40.679 --> 00:46:45.599
high hysteria, videomania and TV delirium
of Chairman of the Board. A Federator

589
00:46:45.639 --> 00:46:47.360
would like you to know that Fred
Braid it is on a trial basis.

590
00:46:47.440 --> 00:46:52.400
Very frankly questioned his ability to communicate
a clear clicture of what Federator really is,

591
00:46:52.400 --> 00:46:54.679
which is namely the best electum electronics
at the lowest possible prices anyway,

592
00:46:54.840 --> 00:47:00.360
are crazy insane prices on a remote
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593
00:47:00.719 --> 00:47:02.039
Now, please do not try this
at home. And by the way,

594
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we had Federated feel that's smashing perfectly
good merchandise is shameful and overly destructive,

595
00:47:07.079 --> 00:47:10.400
So enjoy it while you can.
Fred Your days maybe numbered. Yeah,

596
00:47:14.480 --> 00:47:21.880
Federated back to the eighties. Let
me explain something to you. I am

597
00:47:21.960 --> 00:47:30.840
a vintage mass marketed children's toy from
the eighties. Back to the eighties radio.

598
00:47:30.960 --> 00:47:37.840
Joining us today is radio host,
voiceover actor, television personality Shadow Stevens.

599
00:47:37.199 --> 00:47:39.960
Now. Many of us will remember
him from back in the eighties from

600
00:47:40.440 --> 00:47:45.760
the Federated commercials as Fred Raided,
and some may remember him from Day's World

601
00:47:45.880 --> 00:47:51.280
on CBS. He's also been the
host of American Top forty and a plethora,

602
00:47:52.719 --> 00:47:57.079
yesh plethora of other work. Today, he joins us to talk a

603
00:47:57.159 --> 00:48:00.840
little bit of some of the cool
things he took part in, particularly back

604
00:48:00.039 --> 00:48:05.559
in the eighties. I started wondering
if your mental radio shows would help some

605
00:48:05.679 --> 00:48:08.880
people with either add or people who
have a hard time focusing, for example,

606
00:48:08.960 --> 00:48:16.960
like me beneath all of the humor
and the storytelling is a dedication to

607
00:48:17.199 --> 00:48:24.760
subversive optimism. And part of the
pitch is that the whole thing, the

608
00:48:24.920 --> 00:48:30.920
mythology behind it is that Nicola Tesla
in eighteen ninety two discovered wireless energy transfer,

609
00:48:31.039 --> 00:48:36.079
which you know is true. What
most people don't realize is that he

610
00:48:36.239 --> 00:48:43.519
also realized that besides being a in
the physical universe, that it transcended that

611
00:48:44.079 --> 00:48:46.880
and that got into telepathy, and
he knew that was too far out of

612
00:48:46.960 --> 00:48:52.719
the time, so he started a
secret, underground, worldwide organization dedicated to

613
00:48:52.840 --> 00:49:01.719
uplifting mankind called Optimisticals and the Cysticals, which is mysticlus is dedicated to quietly

614
00:49:02.039 --> 00:49:10.320
making change. So like in world
before World War Two, when Roosevelt came

615
00:49:10.400 --> 00:49:15.400
up with we have nothing to fear
but fear itself itself, he didn't really

616
00:49:15.440 --> 00:49:20.960
write that that was one of the
optimisticals. This like one of those people

617
00:49:21.079 --> 00:49:25.880
behind the scenes that are making changes
that empower people. And so with all

618
00:49:25.920 --> 00:49:30.159
of that in mind, the whole
the whole show is being broadcast from a

619
00:49:30.239 --> 00:49:36.880
former Masonic temple somewhere in Hollywood as
a secret location, and in it our

620
00:49:37.000 --> 00:49:42.760
theaters and labs and laboratories, and
the outlook chamber is at the top up

621
00:49:42.880 --> 00:49:46.559
by the penthouse with a dome ceiling, and we go there to talk about

622
00:49:47.159 --> 00:49:52.159
here's what we're really talking about.
We're talking about angst. Angst is a

623
00:49:52.320 --> 00:49:55.320
different kind of fear. It's a
manifestation of fear and what we need to

624
00:49:55.400 --> 00:50:00.559
do as we either have to get
ahead of the mind with actions or behind

625
00:50:00.639 --> 00:50:05.199
the mind with meditation. If you're
at the mercy of the mind, it

626
00:50:05.320 --> 00:50:09.880
can spin out of control and take
you down into a spiral of desperation and

627
00:50:10.119 --> 00:50:15.840
weakness and depression and depression, and
there is no upside. One of the

628
00:50:15.920 --> 00:50:20.920
things that happened as I was developing
this is I was reading Victor Frankel,

629
00:50:21.000 --> 00:50:28.840
and Victor Frankel is this psychologist,
philosopher, Holocaust survivor, and he survived

630
00:50:29.119 --> 00:50:36.599
for or different places and in it
I want to go into the whole story,

631
00:50:36.679 --> 00:50:42.119
but basically what he concluded was that
when you ridicule fears and phobias,

632
00:50:43.039 --> 00:50:46.599
you can rise above them and get
distance from them through the use of humor

633
00:50:46.639 --> 00:50:52.719
and irony. And if I make
fun of being afraid, then maybe being

634
00:50:52.719 --> 00:50:54.559
afraid isn't going to have that power
over me. So one of the first

635
00:50:54.599 --> 00:51:00.960
things I wrote was a snappy little
jingle called don't forget the world is ending,

636
00:51:00.440 --> 00:51:05.079
don't forget to be afraid, don't
forget to keep pretending you've got it

637
00:51:05.280 --> 00:51:09.039
made. Your best ears are behind
you. So sit alone in your room,

638
00:51:09.639 --> 00:51:14.639
watch a little TV and wait for
him bending doom. Watch a little

639
00:51:14.719 --> 00:51:19.119
TV. And it's like, it's
so happy. Fear is like done.

640
00:51:19.440 --> 00:51:22.639
There's a movie recently about basically the
end of the world, and at the

641
00:51:22.760 --> 00:51:27.079
end of the movie, you know, spoiler alert for those who haven't seen

642
00:51:27.119 --> 00:51:30.599
it, but for that scene at
the end, they're waiting for the end

643
00:51:30.639 --> 00:51:32.800
of the world and they decide,
you know what, we're just going to

644
00:51:32.880 --> 00:51:36.719
talk as it is a normal day. We're going to have dinner. Yeah,

645
00:51:36.920 --> 00:51:40.039
and we're just gonna wait for the
end that way, Yes, not

646
00:51:40.400 --> 00:51:46.800
dismiss and make fun of and and
being glib and you know, and not

647
00:51:47.000 --> 00:51:51.679
take things here. It's like room. But I love that. It's my

648
00:51:51.760 --> 00:51:54.880
favorite movie the year. I think
I live and died by this belief that

649
00:51:55.400 --> 00:52:04.840
comedy and music are the only two
entities that will bring unity between every race,

650
00:52:05.320 --> 00:52:09.800
religion, sexual preference, and I
believe those are the only two entities

651
00:52:10.199 --> 00:52:15.559
that can make man and woman stop
in their tracks, observe, and lose

652
00:52:15.639 --> 00:52:22.440
themselves to where all negativity is gone
away. For whether it be four to

653
00:52:22.559 --> 00:52:25.800
five minutes of a song or two
to three minutes of a set of somebody

654
00:52:25.920 --> 00:52:34.679
saying something funny. It's tricky because
people are so locked into their particular perspective

655
00:52:35.199 --> 00:52:39.880
or otherwise logic and humor would be
able to change people who are deeply committed

656
00:52:39.960 --> 00:52:45.719
to insane things, conspiracy theories and
other things. And you would think that

657
00:52:45.760 --> 00:52:51.039
you'd be able to talk sense to
them and say here's fact. Well those

658
00:52:51.039 --> 00:52:53.519
are not the facts, and these
are alternate facts, and whose facts do

659
00:52:53.599 --> 00:52:57.920
you believe? And what are those
facts based on? But it's all based

660
00:52:58.000 --> 00:53:04.400
on these piecemeal information. And I
do think that a lot of times we'd

661
00:53:04.559 --> 00:53:09.079
use can contribute to your being susceptible. Otherwise, you know, we'd be

662
00:53:09.119 --> 00:53:12.039
able to tell them a joke and
get them to laugh at it, and

663
00:53:12.079 --> 00:53:15.559
they can't laugh at themselves. So
it's maybe not as simple as that,

664
00:53:15.760 --> 00:53:19.679
although I think it's worth trying.
And I think that that you know,

665
00:53:20.440 --> 00:53:24.800
people that can write music that moves
people and communicates big ideas. Yeay,

666
00:53:25.039 --> 00:53:29.360
I mean that that's a better shot, and every once in a while you

667
00:53:29.480 --> 00:53:32.320
make a breakthrough or you'll touch somebody. And with humor the same way,

668
00:53:32.400 --> 00:53:37.280
you know that some humor is just
cynical, and some humor is sassy,

669
00:53:37.800 --> 00:53:45.119
and some humor is deeply profound and
cuts through. And that's what we hope

670
00:53:45.159 --> 00:53:49.639
to try to do. Shadow Stevens, I can't thank you enough for taking

671
00:53:49.719 --> 00:53:53.559
the time totally to share with us, because it's a breath of fresh air

672
00:53:54.039 --> 00:54:00.400
to hear somebody in all sincerity talk
about their experiences that go way back to

673
00:54:00.559 --> 00:54:06.039
a time where another generation that's living
now, that's younger now, will never

674
00:54:06.159 --> 00:54:12.360
be able to identify and we're able
to bring great people such as yourself and

675
00:54:12.519 --> 00:54:16.119
your experiences. And as the motto
of Back to the Eighties Radio is to

676
00:54:16.280 --> 00:54:22.119
introduce the eighties to a holy generation
that's great and it's a great era.

677
00:54:22.599 --> 00:54:25.360
I want to thank you from the
bottom of my heart and my black soul

678
00:54:25.440 --> 00:54:30.119
for coming onto our program. I
would love to have you any given day

679
00:54:30.440 --> 00:54:35.519
night you can come back and bless
us with your presence and we can talk

680
00:54:35.639 --> 00:54:39.480
more about radio and just maybe just
shoot the crap and give the listeners something

681
00:54:39.599 --> 00:54:43.079
to sit back and say, hey, you know what, honey, So

682
00:54:43.320 --> 00:54:45.559
what if the kids aren't in bed
at nine? You know whats So what

683
00:54:45.679 --> 00:54:50.360
if my boss is a douche bag? So what if money's a little tight?

684
00:54:50.800 --> 00:54:53.079
So what if we're out of vodka? So what if you can't cook?

685
00:54:53.519 --> 00:54:57.320
So what if the neighbors are making
love too? Love for us?

686
00:54:57.800 --> 00:55:01.800
Let's sit down and listen to Shadows
evens with these two jerks that I give

687
00:55:01.920 --> 00:55:08.039
constantly thumbs down on their Facebook pages. Shaddle, thank you very much.

688
00:55:08.440 --> 00:55:13.599
It's my pleasure. It's a genius
wrapped in an idiot driving a stolen slave

689
00:55:13.679 --> 00:55:19.559
full of Chris. You've been listening
to Shadow Stevens back to the eighties work

690
00:55:19.599 --> 00:55:22.320
and to be right back now going
and let me point to the president of

691
00:55:22.639 --> 00:55:28.360
the mutually and Randy Savage is not
hippy with your decision. Yeah, I

692
00:55:28.480 --> 00:55:32.559
am the Cream and the World Wrest
Confederation. There is no doubt about it.

693
00:55:32.719 --> 00:55:37.760
Yeah you mean, Gene Okerland.
You know that I'm the cream with

694
00:55:37.880 --> 00:55:44.719
a crop. This is back to
the eighties radio. And now this is

695
00:55:44.760 --> 00:55:47.239
the time that many of you have
been waiting for because it's the time where

696
00:55:47.280 --> 00:55:52.159
we talk about what made us angry. Back in the nineteen eighties, but

697
00:55:52.599 --> 00:55:58.679
in honor of the most wondrous chang
we've now dubbed them changres. So chang

698
00:55:59.079 --> 00:56:02.199
What makes you chang angry today compared
to the eighties? You know what gets

699
00:56:02.280 --> 00:56:09.840
me changry about radio nowadays? In
comparison to back in the eighties, there

700
00:56:10.039 --> 00:56:16.039
is no radio jock. You know
what gets me changry nowadays about radio?

701
00:56:16.519 --> 00:56:24.760
The monopoly that mother and father radio
stations are gone because of huge radio corporations

702
00:56:25.360 --> 00:56:31.199
eating them up. You know what
gets me shangry The CEOs don't give a

703
00:56:31.320 --> 00:56:36.280
damn about way the listeners. All
they care about is the money. You

704
00:56:36.440 --> 00:56:45.199
know what gets me changry about terrestrial
radio nowadays? Some yuppie, fancy pantsuit

705
00:56:45.480 --> 00:56:53.800
wearing Maserati, driving two marriage divorced
kind of individual with a girlfriend half of

706
00:56:54.000 --> 00:57:02.199
his daughter's age is calling the shots
and making sex see people more money than

707
00:57:02.280 --> 00:57:09.760
a musical talent wood and paying a
jock to entertain and take people out of

708
00:57:09.840 --> 00:57:15.880
the crap that we're going through today. You know what else gets me shangry

709
00:57:15.960 --> 00:57:22.360
about radio today as opposed to the
nineteen eighties, The radio stations do not

710
00:57:22.840 --> 00:57:29.679
allow a friendship with the radio jock
as they used to be. You cannot

711
00:57:29.760 --> 00:57:32.400
turn on the radio station and listen
to somebody as your friend in the next

712
00:57:32.480 --> 00:57:37.719
room to make your day go a
little bit brighter. No, I listened

713
00:57:37.800 --> 00:57:46.440
to aidan pre recorded jack ass telling
me the same thing every forty five minutes,

714
00:57:46.960 --> 00:57:53.079
and I listened to the same music
set that I heard two hours before.

715
00:57:53.960 --> 00:58:00.599
Yes, that's what gets me changry
about radio today, and that,

716
00:58:00.840 --> 00:58:05.960
lady gentlemen, has been this week's
chain. Grease. If you have something

717
00:58:06.039 --> 00:58:09.039
that made you angry back in the
eighties and you'd like us to mention them

718
00:58:09.119 --> 00:58:13.519
here on back to the eighties radio, go ahead and send us a note

719
00:58:13.920 --> 00:58:17.400
by way of Facebook Messenger, and
we will go ahead and do our best

720
00:58:17.880 --> 00:58:22.480
to talk about it on the following
show. So on, behalf of myself,

721
00:58:22.719 --> 00:58:24.320
Toscano. I just want to thank
you for joining us this week.

722
00:58:24.639 --> 00:58:28.679
We will see you next week with
a great show, with a great guest

723
00:58:29.000 --> 00:58:32.840
and with more eighties talk. Be
safe, take care, and we will

724
00:58:32.880 --> 00:58:38.000
see you next Friday. Before I
release you to another chang tastic weekends.

725
00:58:38.039 --> 00:58:42.480
This is mister chang. I'm going
to do my thing over the weekend.

726
00:58:42.559 --> 00:58:45.719
You do your thing, and remember
Please don't go out and drink and drive.

727
00:58:45.840 --> 00:58:49.159
We need all your soul because they're
beautiful, to keep it going.

728
00:58:49.239 --> 00:58:54.039
And don't let what's going on submerge
you in so much depression and your outlet

729
00:58:54.159 --> 00:58:59.760
become negative, because you know what
there is a plan with a great spirit.

730
00:59:00.039 --> 00:59:02.280
You've got to do is understand what's
going on. Keep that smile up

731
00:59:02.320 --> 00:59:07.559
there, and everybody out there stay
lifted and gifted. And until next Friday,

732
00:59:07.599 --> 00:59:13.480
I bid you all an adios as
the maniana, as the la vista

733
00:59:13.559 --> 00:59:20.440
astelwego, sayanada to all my valley
cats, see your brows, see your

734
00:59:20.559 --> 00:59:37.280
sisters, and to all my homies
in the vodio that I forgot sa