Radio Was Awesome in the '80s

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Me let's go on the trip to
me back. WHOA, This is

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the one and only back to the
eighties radio. I am Tuscano from the

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dynamic duo of Toscano and Chang and
where I was wrong? Today we're having

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fun here in the studio and we
can't do the show alone. Of course

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no, because next to me is
a man. It is said, if

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you tune your radio to eighty eight
point four FM, you can actually hear

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Chang's thoughts. Yes, that's true, that's true. I made a deal

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with Jesus and I said, Lord, please please put me on the air

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anywhere for five minutes so people can
hear my thoughts. And you know what

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the Lord said, I think the
FCC would close you down. That's what

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he told me. But you know
what, it is an honor and a

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privilege to be here with all of
you, Tuscano and Chang fans, lovers

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of that to the eighties. And
I have to say this to my very

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special friend, my partner. He
is the thorn in my rosebuds and my

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rosebushes. He is the only man
that I know that collects chihuahua fur oh

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yes, and is planning on building
stuffed chihuahua. My friend has over thirty

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five thousand strands of chihuahua here,
all from a different species. That's correct,

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and that is my good friend,
Tiscano. Tiscano, I could not

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be here without you. Of course, you are my ride, driving me

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here to the show every single friday
that we're together. Thank you for inviting

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me in, Tiscano, into your
cars, your restrooms, right your living

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room, your rest room, office
is your cubicles. Tiscano. I want

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to give a big shout out to
everybody here in the United States listening,

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yes, but also outside of the
United States, of course, but in

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particular I want to give a shout
out to those in California, New York,

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Texas, Nevada listening to us.
A big shout out to the Back

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to the Eighties Cafe in Las Vegas, Henderson. If I'm not mistaken,

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Yes, we are going to be
out there very soon, so a big

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shout out. Also, a big
shout out to the Totally Eighties Bar and

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Grill in the city of Fullertein,
California. Everybody from Germany listening to us,

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also from the United Kingdom, from
England, from Australia, Mexico,

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Canada, Japan, Puerto Rico,
Brazil. I mean, the list goes

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on. We'd be here for an
hour naming all the countries. You know

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what, Sisko mentioning Brazil, all
of our listeners in Brazil. If you

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have connections, please go to our
Patreon page and give us a little something

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donation so we can get to Brazil
and hang during carnival. Yeah during the

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carnival, yes, but please only
send two tickets for Tuscano and Chang.

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There is no Missus Tuscano or Missus
Chang. I also want to give a

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big shout out to everybody listening on
Pandora. iHeart Apple Podcasts anchor of course,

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and just big shout out to everybody
who takes their time every Friday to

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listen to the show. You know, Chang, Today's a very special show

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for those of you who just joined
us. We have a guest from the

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eighties, in particular from eighties radio. He was an on air personality on

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KO, M, E, K, L, O S and many other

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stations. Anybody out there that is
in need of help from domestic violence,

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maybe a neighbor, a friend,
a family member, maybe yourself and you're

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a little bit afraid to contact somebody, I'm going to give you the digits

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for a hotline that's again report domestic
violence. That is one eight hundred seven

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ninety nine seven two three three.
Tuscano and Chang here at back to the

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and everybody from KA it's ninety two
point five care. That number again for

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the domestic violin top line is one
eight hundred seven nine nine seven two three

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three. Don't go away when we
come back. Gino Minchellini from KOs ninety

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five and a half. Oh Hey
there, I'm Hollow and I'm Sarah and

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we're the host of Cover Your Eyes
podcast. We revisit the eighties and nineties

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movies of our childhoods and wonder why
the hell are we allowed to watch this?

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Is it too late? Now it's
the damage done. Join us and

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find out as we laugh our way
through the trauma and take a lighthearted look

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at how these movies shaped our views
on society, relationships, and sex.

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Open your minds and cover your eyes. Every Tuesday, wherever you listen to

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podcasts, this is its rinke.
Listen to the decade of decadents right here,

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stop back to the eighties. Welcome
back to Back to the eighties,

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hosted by Tiscano and Chang, and
we are enjoying a conversation with the legendary

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Kaleos ninety five and a half.
I did not say point five, mister

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five o'clock funnies, an idol to
me and many of us rockers. And

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Tuscano Gino Mitchellini, welcome to the
program. How are you doing? Yeah,

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you missed? Maybe flashback, because
I remember the day that our new

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program had at the staff meeting said
we are no line than ninety five and

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a half. We are going in
the digital date's ninety five point five from

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now on. Of course, my
calling it ninety five and change just pissed

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him off completely. This is before
the Twitter days where they can fire you

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on air with Twitter, right Twitter, Oh god, yes, the red

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phone there none of that stuff.
I could not do or try to do

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what I'm doing. I could not
be influenced with anybody else with such a

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great legend as Gino, Mitchellie,
Jim Ladd, the staff of Kalos and

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Kmet Gino. It is the pioneers
of rock and roll radio as yourself that

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got me through many times as I
was growing up back in the seventies and

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the eighties. I lived and breathed
of the essence and everything had to do

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with the radio. It is everything
to me to sit here with my partner

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and crime and rhyme, to interview
you. You know, thank you for

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that most kind words. I can
see it in the camera. You have

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a face for radio. Thank you. Well. Being retired, you look

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obviously you look back on things,
and it's amazing now. As far as

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the synchronicity of just being in the
eye other hurricane for so long, not

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never thinking that the hurricane would blow
away some of day, right, I

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mean, that was never never a
thought process in our minds that radio would

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change to the point where it would
die. I I got RICHELINI from my

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hero b mental Read died with his
boots on, and I always thought that

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that's the way I went. I
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the greatest job in the world,
never thinking the deregulation and corporate takeover would

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destroy radio such as it did and
it would no longer even be the joy

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to work at like it was.
And I think back to it now and

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it's I said, God, what
a golden time it was to be part

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of all that. We didn't think
of it that way then. We knew

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we were just having a ball and
getting away with it and getting paid good

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money for it. It's I look
back in it and I'm going like,

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Wow, that was a one of
those periods in time that just like everything

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else, like George Harrison said,
everything has to pass, you know,

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and it's gone now, and all
I commink that was my days in the

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Bay Area and then in La down
here. I was part of a golden

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time that I would I wouldn't trade
any of those days for anything at this

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point in my life. One of
the things that just brings back memories to

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my personal life. I know,
the chain as well, is that you

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were one of the people that had
so much to do without you knowing at

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least maybe comprehending the whole scope of
it back then. But you had such

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a tremendous part of influencing our life
a lot happier. And except for those

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times when we try to record with
cassettes and you guys would talk over the

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damn intro, other than that,
other than that, but that was the

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point, exactly exactly. And you
know what, and now that we now

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that we do back to the eighties
radio show, all that stuff we miss

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from you guys because radio just not
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Well, it's so funny. I've
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and days that we took for granted, I mean, the life that

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we lived, the reasons we got
into it, and the things that we

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did, trying to explain the way
it was that we took for granted,

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like you did this and you did
oh yeah, no, you couldn't have

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done that. Yes we did.
I mean there was a time whenever I

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came to work and my playlist was
a blank sheet of paper, we would

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show up a half an hour early
and start pulling albums up the wall and

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getting ideas for things and what you
wanted to play. And the only rules

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were we had these these different colored
stickers you put on the edge of the

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album, like red, blue,
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a different category. Hot new albums, recurring, old albums that are still

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new but they've been for a month
or two, oldies that need to get

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played. And then things that were
like just good FM tracks. I call

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them turntable hits, but there were
never big hits, but it sounded good

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on the radio. Those were the
minimum tracks, but you had to mix

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those up any way you could.
And on the album here, I've got

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a CD. Here, imagine this
is an album. On the album and

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the back of the album there was
a big sticker. We'd have programming meetings

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once a week. The entire staff
would meet him and a program director Michael

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Hunter's office, and we said that
we passed and joined around and we make

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some questions on the album's gonna have
you heard this one? There you go,

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except it was illegal end, so
it seemed more fun. I don't

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know, it doesn't have the same
dealing now that it's legal. I don't

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know what that is, but it
could be mental. But we would just

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the tracks and we'd recommend tracks.
Then Michael get the finals, say with

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our mussy department, and we would
put on the back of the album with

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the cigarette side one cuts one,
three, four or five or where or

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or all tracks. Sometimes there's every
track, sometimes maybe only one track depending

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on the album cuts. You know
what we're approved, and that was it.

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When you play one of the tracks
a dating initial on the back of

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the album, you're dating time that
you played it to. The next shot

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would play a different track. That
was you pull the albums out and happened

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to your show. Of course you're
pulling new album because when any FMBJ knows

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if you pull a record, that
song is going to trigger something in your

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head for what to follow it with. So it's like half the brigade you

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pulled in advance never got played because
there're two as you're pulling new ones,

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running back and pulling stuff out of
the studio and people like, now like,

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really, you programmed your entire show
like that. Yes, that's why

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we had favorite jocks because we knew
the style of music. It was no

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playlist, and as the consultants came
in and they sort of slowly changing.

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In the beginning, there was like
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it, and you could put in
feeling the rest, and then there would

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be more and more control. And
then he finally got to point where I'd

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have a playlist, but I could
add maybe one or two songs at the

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end. Do you remember roughly what
year it was that the personal choice of

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the of the DJ, of the
jock was when when that actually stopped and

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then you had to do you followed
the playlist? Do you remember what year?

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It was a slow progression or regression, whatever you want to go,

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however, you're gonna look at it. And it began in the in the

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late seventies with the first consultant and
then it's but it slowly around. When

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I was was able to play around
it, it wasn't that, you know,

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I got to We're like, okay, I don't mind a structure.

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You know, you got these are
the hits have to be played. Cool,

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let me mix in the color,
let me mix in the burn with

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it. You know. We did
that, and little by little that was

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taken away, I'd say probably by
by the late eighties. It was like

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getting pretty bad. And when I
came back the second time, there was

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no freedom whatsoever, and evens to
the point where not only could you not

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play with it if you had to
play it in the exact order. So

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segways were out, sets were out, and they would put in IDs at

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least every two songs, so there
was no you know, continuity to it,

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and it got refer and refer to
just enjoy the music because it was

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all taken away. I remember one
day I want to say who it was,

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but I queued up a record on
the CD player and it was the

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wrong song. No big deal.
The audience doesn't know that. Let it

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go, hot line rings, it's
my program director. What are you doing?

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Um? I miscute it? Sorry, you know, take it off?

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What take it off? That's not
the record that's on the list.

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So now I've got to paid that
record down right in the middle, stop

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it, recute it, and play
the right record. Now the audience know

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something is wrong. That was at
the beginning for me the end, but

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I realized, you know, this
is no fun anymore, so they would

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rather have that interruption. So now
people know about it than have you just

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blow it off and go on to
the next Well, what happens is you

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had non radio people they're now running
radio. You have a corporate people,

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and you have computer people that have
to have systems. It wasn't about systems

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in the beginning. It was about
you know, taste, and it was

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about imagination. And when you have
the people who run it stations and it

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sounds like sala race, but it's
not. It's just a fact. Are

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not radio people and they don't care. They're business people. They don't listen

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to radio. It's like a I
call it fill in the blank marketing.

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It could be a theme park,
it could be a radio format. It

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could be a movie, it could
be a banana. It doesn't matter.

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It's about business, and business people
need systems so they can promote what they're

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doing. And I realized when the
research we were doing stop being research as

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in, what how do you let
feel about this artist or these bands or

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these songs, and it began researchs
based on trying to find out information to

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pass on what you wanted to do, as in, I don't want to

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find out what's out there. I
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I want to do. And it's
just it wasn't fun anymore. It's just

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yeah, it's it's almost like,
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out in exactly to it's so funny. I mentioned my first mentor. I

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mean, I was in FM for
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was a differences gunn in Michael Hunter. When as it k with me in

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San Jose, they come spot on
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everything He taught me to be a
success in radio about like you said,

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spontaneity, about being unpredictable, surprised
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He used to tell me, he
says, he says, I don't

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want asshole radio, but I want
smart ass radio. Said, don't talk

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to them, or don't talk at
them. Talking to them, talking to

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one person, you're not talking to
a group. So don't get on a

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goddamn soapbox, or you're fired.
Like some fmdjs have a problem. We

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all have go through the phase of
getting on the supbox because well I'm important

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and his headphones sound really good.
You got to be careful of that.

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But he would let us do that. He used to I'd be on the

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air doing something and he'd open the
door and say, if you've got nothing

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to say, play or a record
and slam the door. That was it

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was a little clock inside your head. Okay, you've talked enough. Not

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play a record and use the record
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to do something like that. But
all of the things he taught me about

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being unpredictable using my imagination are things
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Now, let's execute the format.
Sit behind the screen, read us on

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the card, push the button,
and take your mind and wait to check

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and go home. And I said
that the people they give me a look

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like, well, my station doesn't
do that. Yes, it does.

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They all do, some of them, even prerecord the jocks intros and outros,

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so there's actually nobody there at all. And they look at me like,

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well, I still here led Zeppelin. Yeah that's right, you do.

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Yeah you do. I don't know
why, but you still do.

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Let's take a little break when we
come back to more of g you know,

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Michellini here on back to the eighties
radio. You're listening to back to

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the eighties. It takes all your
gold. And then she goes ninety five

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point five k l O S Classic
Rock they're really rocks able whine. I

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didn't write that lyric. It's just
I don't know, maybe life experience somewhere

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along the line. And the band
formerly from Nando Beach Great White did Rolling

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Stone. That's brand new from those
boys. Also heard Magic Man from My

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Heart Van Halen's why Can't This Be
Love? That was for Andy and Sarrito

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Sanda Zeppelin, A whole lot of
Love began, the whole damn thing.

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This is Gina Micheliny. Happy hump
Day to you. I'm reminding you somehow

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I seem to have starting to wear
that mantle and I don't know why,

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but I've been told by enough people
that thank you for reminding my husband.

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So it's hump day. You have
responsibility today. Of course, yesterday was

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two for Tuesday. I was reminded
of that, and tomorrow. The thing

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is kind of expanding, a three
for threesday. You know, it's it's

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getting a little bit weird. Friday
on Friday and I liked I liked monogamous

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Monday. I thought that was interesting. I never go out with chocer players.

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He did not allow to use their
hands. Yeah, well, this

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is it is hump day, though, coming up next hour, we're going

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to be giving away some passes for
our private screening of The Haunting that Susanne

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and Celia will be hosting at the
Haunted Theater coming up next week. This

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is when the economy was good and
the medal was heavy. Man, back

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to the eighties. You are listening
to the one and only back to the

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eighties radio. This is Tosconna from
Toscana, win Chang with us in studio.

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If he just joined us. We
have the ever Wondrous, the ever

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wondrous, the man, the myth
and the legend, Geno Ulini from a

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plethora, oh yes, of radio
stations from back in the day, kalo

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as Kome, probably some more that
we aren't familiar with, maybe in a

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different state. Do you ever go
to out of state for a radio only

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At the beginning, my very first
radio show was with a f RTS.

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Remember good Morning Vietnam? Yeah,
I was Good Morning Philippines. Nice.

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Really, we got a tweet from
someone wanting to know, oh my god,

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you have listeners. Yes, we
actually had. Well, it was

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it's my mom, so she she
wants to know it's either our parents.

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Please ask Gino what the difference was
as a jock between radio in the eighties

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and today. The difference you got, you got a minute, we got

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plenty. It was exciting. I
first got into radio in nineteen seventy two

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and it just got better and better
and better. I was lucky enough to

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be part of the whirlwind I got. I got out of the Air Force

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in San Francisco, I went to
broadcasting school in Hollywood and then just went

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up as they called up the pike. I started out down here. My

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first radio job was at KGOE in
Thousand Oaks, which was at a five

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hundred daytime only stage, and I
used to have to go. I work

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weekends at the daytime only station,
and I had to get there like at

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five o'clock in the morning and start
up the transmitter and then play four hours

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of religious shows and then do live. That was my first and moved out

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to My first Posheim gig was in
Stockton KSTN yoh Yeah, and then KSFM

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Sacramento, then down to k went
me up to Camel and then ended up

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down here at klos So. I
was pretty much California in my whole career,

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which I was lucky in that it
was a plan but I was also

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lucky enough to be able to do
it. Yeah, I had the national

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show. A lot of people listened
to that Power Cuts for nine years on

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the Global Satellite network when I was
at KLOS. But yes, pretty much

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all California. But the difference was
then to her question, I'm sorry I

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got carried away. Was it was? It was exciting. It was the

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early days. FM was the alternative
to Top forty. And it wasn't about

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type playlist. It was about the
alternative to type playist. It's like,

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the more music you to play better, it was, and we're excited and

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we played everything from Stevie Wonder to
Weather Report to led Zeppelin, to Jimmy

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Buffett to Jerry Jeff Walker, Beatles, the whole perspective, I mean,

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Vangelist, Tangerine Dream, Pink Floyd, and the thing was to mix it

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all together. I got a book
here of old segues I found from those

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days. It's amazing going through the
number of songs that no longer get played

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anywhere. But it was exciting and
if you love music, which is the

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reason I got into, I never
get into to be a celebrity or anything

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like that. I just I've always
been passed into by the musical process and

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where it comes from. And FM
was a great vehicle to get close to

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those kinds of people because there was
so much of everything, and I was

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like a kidney candy store. I
couldn't get enough. I mean we got

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three albums too, to listen to
at home and putting it all together and

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experimenting with it and the whole life
that went with it. I mean it

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was the seventies and early eighties was
like a golden period that you know,

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I wouldn't trade for any moment in
my life at this point. And there

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was a thing called ratings then two, if you've got good ratings, you

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could make really good money, which
is how I'm able to be afforded retired

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now by the beach, because you
could actually have a really good career.

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Then you can't. Now you can't
provide for anything. Now you could really

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pay your rent if you could get
a good enough job, maybe if you

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got a morning show somewhere. But
so the change is it was a love

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affair. I mean it was.
That's kind of why I retired and didn't

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try to continue with some other direction
because I was so spoiled my whole life

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of just loving being where I was
and never getting enough of it. That

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when it started changing and they took
the funnel and the imagination away from it,

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It's like, why do I want
to sit here and play the same

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list every single day and be happy
with a minimum wage check. There's no

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point to it. Just once again, you know, was Getty Lee said

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it big money to stifle the jock, to stifle the individuality, the character,

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the persona of what we had before. That was a big hit for

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us listeners. That's what prompted Chang
and I to start getting together and trying

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to bring that flavor back. Sure
we're not going to impress the big corporations,

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but you know there's a very very
large audience that still wants radio how

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it used to be. An old
friend of I made a really good point

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about that. He made it sarcastically, but it was balance and the point

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was FM. Like Tom Donney,
he began started the whole thing up.

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You know, he gets credit for
it, and I would expanded from San

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Francisco, But in those days,
people would forget FM. Radio was an

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afterthought. You had an FM receiver, maybe you get a classic station,

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you know, maybe some news stations. But it's like the FM receiver was

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empty, there was nothing on it, and AM was full. And then

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suddenly people realized, my god,
you know, but there's only this waste

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land out there, and it's in
stereo and a lesson, it sounds better

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than AM. And I don't know
if you guys are all enough to remember,

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but that was the time whenever you
couldn't get an FM radio in your

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car you had to take for that. Yeah, And so it was like

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oh, and then in stereo also, And then people started buying receivers and

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big speakers and tuners and namps and
turntables and stuff. And FM fit right

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into that groove and became an alternative
and it was okay until it started competing

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with AM radio. Yes, And
my buddy, the sarcastic point he made

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was we did too good a job. We started making money. And when

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you started making money, that's when
corporate wants in them. Oh we could

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make some money over here. But
the thing is, when corporate takes over,

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they want to be sure they're going
to make money. They want to

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make sure things are safe, they
want they don't want any problems. They

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want to all of the questions and
the answers are gone away, the attitude

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goes away, and the imagination goes
away. They want It's like, yes,

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we want you to have your imagination, but within these boundary, right

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would you say, the freedom goes
the way and on comes into pay.

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That's it's like what the consultants were. Consultants came up with a system which

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was excused my expression, bullshit,
but it was a system and that's how

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you talked to corporate people. It
was like the first time I went in

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to get when I came out in
the Bay Area. I've never had a

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contract before. I've never had an
agent before, i never had a lawyer

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before, you know, all that
kind of stuff. I had to learn

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about all but during the union and
so forth, and I learned about the

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corporate mentality and it came time to
negotiate the contract my second time, I'm

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gonna Okay, i'd a good job, now, you know. Now I'm

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I got some cards to play.
And my boss said, if you think

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I'm going to reward you because you
did a good job and here's your raise

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and just come on board, wrong, We're going to start all over again.

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We're going to negotiate the contract all
over again, or you're gonna fight

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for the ship that you got before
all over again. So when we get

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to the money, you're gonna be
too tired to fight for that. We're

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gonna win there, and I'm going
to This is how corporate mentality is.

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Yes, it's not about do your
job. It's like we want to control

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this and the two don't go together. There was a time in the in

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the in the in the late eighties
in the early nineties when it you could

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still work within the framework, but
it was getting tighter and tighter, and

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now it's gone completely. There's no
control. They have total control. But

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in those days it was so much
fun. Ramata was and we're getting paid

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too. Yeah. I hear that
even the even the mob was ruined by

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corporations back in the eighties. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Are you brought

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up back when FM had to go
ahead and go up against AM and it

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was a battle of freedom listener numbers
and I wanted I wanted to ask you

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this now. That was at the
time when when AM had the great jocks

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as the real Don Steele, who
I thought kind of incorporated the vibe to

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go and take radio to FM to
be uh, just you know, go

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for it, just the full throttle
and lust of life and the freedom that

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I think the real Don Steel portrayed. Cage J and Am Yeah, and

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also Wolfman Jack and then you know, and like I say that, you

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spoke of a shadow Stevens another great
personality. Oh man. I loved listening

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to the Shadow as I was growing
up. Baby Sims. The original kmet

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that the station that may let kmet
the legend was was was Clamball's Richie Kimball.

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It was in the morning. Michael
was a program record name before he

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came up to San Jose, before
I met, before I knew him.

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They had b Milt to read that
Stephen Clean, Mary Mount's turner talk about

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a station. It was legendary.
Oh god, you mentioned though the difference

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between AM and FM. See now, a lot of people don't don't understand

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the difference. For one thing,
A fallacy is that FM sold more records

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than AM. Never happened. Really
radio out sold FM all the way through.

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We sold more albums as far as
I co record shows and singles.

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FM never never top AM. Radio
rotation does breed sales. Unfortunately, However,

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the thing with FM was we weren't
trying to sell records. Our whole

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thing, especially in the seventies and
early eighties, we were trying to sell

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records. That's why the rotation,
there was no rotation. We wanted you

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to listen to us called time spent
listening. FN created a thing called time

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spent listening. It wasn't about total
service area or tuns number of people to

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an indiostation. It's how long they
listened to your station. Yes, and

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we wanted you to buy the products
we advertised. That's what you remember in

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the early days of FM, all
the cool products you heard that. We

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did ads for record radio, stereo
outfits, record stores, I mean all

408
00:30:41.680 --> 00:30:45.680
kind of gene stores, you know
that, all that kind of stuff.

409
00:30:48.319 --> 00:30:51.920
Even in San Francisco with with the
free clinic, you know, stuff like

410
00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:56.640
that. It was we wanted you
to listen to the music and then buy

411
00:30:56.799 --> 00:31:00.440
the products we advertised, which was
a different focus. AN was always about

412
00:31:00.440 --> 00:31:04.359
selling records. I mean the focus
that the Top forty. I mean,

413
00:31:04.440 --> 00:31:07.319
that's why the Top forty every two
and a half hours you repeat the list

414
00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:14.920
then, I mean and that that
does bread record sales, but it doesn't

415
00:31:15.079 --> 00:31:18.880
read buying products. More of Geno
Michellini on back to the eighties radio.

416
00:31:19.160 --> 00:31:25.680
What I taught this country, You've
got to make the money first. Then

417
00:31:25.680 --> 00:31:29.039
when you get the money, you
get the fower. Then when you get

418
00:31:29.079 --> 00:31:32.839
a flower, then you get the
Woman's more to be a wild ninety five

419
00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:38.160
point five Klos classic rod that really
rods. If you can't wear a spendex

420
00:31:38.319 --> 00:31:48.480
jumpsuits, what can you do this? Eighties times now have changed so radically.

421
00:31:48.799 --> 00:31:52.880
Now. We did a show recently
where we talked about streaming music,

422
00:31:52.759 --> 00:31:59.640
and the interesting thing is we got
we got a lot of people not knowing

423
00:32:00.440 --> 00:32:05.240
what these big companies like Spotify,
iTunes, etc. But particularly we picked

424
00:32:05.279 --> 00:32:10.920
on Spotify because of what they end
up paying the artist for. For somebody

425
00:32:10.960 --> 00:32:16.000
to come up and have six hundred
thousand downloads today, six hundred thousand downloads

426
00:32:16.559 --> 00:32:22.440
and get less than twelve dollars,
it's absolutely ridiculous. Well, yeah,

427
00:32:22.480 --> 00:32:27.119
that's another thing about how it's changed. It's not just about you from my

428
00:32:27.319 --> 00:32:34.680
side of it, it's the impact
now there was We never would have imagined

429
00:32:34.799 --> 00:32:40.559
there would be a time when radio
was not the major factor in record sales.

430
00:32:43.079 --> 00:32:46.599
FM radio has basically no impact on
record shales. Now it's just it's

431
00:32:47.039 --> 00:32:52.759
nothing or one thing. They don't
play a new product, they don't feature

432
00:32:52.759 --> 00:32:55.920
it, and the audience doesn't.
Isn't there anymore like it used to be

433
00:32:57.039 --> 00:32:59.839
either. I mean that's another thing. Like you look at the rating.

434
00:33:00.160 --> 00:33:06.039
Now it's no longer about who has
a number one show. It's no longer

435
00:33:06.039 --> 00:33:08.680
about who has a number one station. It's about the umbrella up stations you

436
00:33:08.880 --> 00:33:16.119
buy when you advertise with Cumulus or
with Bonnaville or Clear Channel, you know

437
00:33:16.200 --> 00:33:20.559
whoever, Infinity. It's like,
you don't buy one station or one show,

438
00:33:20.599 --> 00:33:22.960
you buy the umbrella up stations now, so raddies are no longer important.

439
00:33:23.160 --> 00:33:28.000
So as a jock trying to be
successful and get numbers to I mean

440
00:33:28.039 --> 00:33:30.759
I have a bonus Clauset's written in
by contract for you know, if I

441
00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:37.599
exceeded certain numbers, I got more
money. That doesn't exist anymore. It's

442
00:33:37.640 --> 00:33:44.000
gone. It's the monopoly, would
you not say of America conglomerates buying up

443
00:33:44.480 --> 00:33:50.559
everything small and giving the listener or
the consumer less choice. So you're forced

444
00:33:50.680 --> 00:33:54.480
to reckon with the product that they
that they give you. George Washington said

445
00:33:54.519 --> 00:34:00.160
it the first in the very beginning. The business of America is not or

446
00:34:00.720 --> 00:34:05.240
it's business, and we have not
changed that. I mean, many call

447
00:34:05.319 --> 00:34:08.960
it greed, any capitalism where we're
going to call it, but that's what

448
00:34:09.079 --> 00:34:15.320
it is. It's about making money
and maximizing the money to the point where

449
00:34:16.360 --> 00:34:21.360
it's amazing how often they will cut
their nose out despite their face in the

450
00:34:21.480 --> 00:34:28.239
name of making money. I mean, there's it's just the attitude being if

451
00:34:28.280 --> 00:34:31.960
everybody's doing the same thing, we
may not have behind numbers to charge the

452
00:34:32.599 --> 00:34:37.480
exorbitate ratings used to charge. But
if everybody's paying the same thing, nobody's

453
00:34:37.559 --> 00:34:43.320
losing. We all make money.
That's what it is now. Well,

454
00:34:43.400 --> 00:34:45.920
we never dreamt of the day that
we'd hear from somebody. You still listen

455
00:34:46.000 --> 00:34:50.280
to radio? What's radio exactly?
And you get that today all over.

456
00:34:50.559 --> 00:34:53.039
One of the things that I've gotten
back to my roots as far as why

457
00:34:53.079 --> 00:34:59.000
I listen to radio in the first
place. I love new music. I

458
00:34:59.039 --> 00:35:00.559
don't know what it is about,
but I can. I just never get

459
00:35:00.639 --> 00:35:07.199
tired of new music. And every
every good FM DJ especially you'll find it

460
00:35:07.239 --> 00:35:08.679
when you talk to them, they
have this gene and it said, we

461
00:35:08.719 --> 00:35:14.800
don't know why we have it or
you know what it's all about. We

462
00:35:14.920 --> 00:35:17.039
have this gene. It's like I
hear new music, I need to share

463
00:35:17.079 --> 00:35:22.280
it and it's the greatest thrill.
Was like turning our audience onto new music.

464
00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:25.280
Yes, get the FM jock to
take the same thing. It's like,

465
00:35:25.360 --> 00:35:29.519
there's nothing like having the new album
by Bruce or whoever, doesn't matter,

466
00:35:29.800 --> 00:35:30.880
or a new album that's gonna be
hot. You're gonna love this.

467
00:35:31.159 --> 00:35:38.320
It's like that is that that's an
instant boner for us. And obviously radio

468
00:35:38.360 --> 00:35:42.280
doesn't do that anymore. There's no
excitement, there's no imagination. It's a

469
00:35:42.360 --> 00:35:45.199
playlist now. You know, it's
a shuffle list. You know that's what

470
00:35:45.280 --> 00:35:47.880
they got. But um, I
have found myself when I'm in the car,

471
00:35:47.920 --> 00:35:50.880
if I'm not listening to my own
playlist. By the way, I

472
00:35:50.960 --> 00:35:54.199
got a great playlist turns out a
really good musical taste. Like what I

473
00:35:54.320 --> 00:36:00.880
play my my my car iTunes is
like got about five thousand Actually manager some

474
00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:04.920
good shit in there, I'll tell
you what. But anyway, I find

475
00:36:04.960 --> 00:36:08.000
it. When I listened to radio
for music, I love listening to K

476
00:36:08.199 --> 00:36:13.079
jazz because I mean I've always liked
jazz. I was you know, part

477
00:36:13.079 --> 00:36:16.519
of my the colors of my rainbow. But I never was really into jazz,

478
00:36:17.360 --> 00:36:20.159
so I couldn't tell you who did
what, and so forthies like I

479
00:36:20.239 --> 00:36:21.800
knew if I liked it, I
didn't like it. You know, certain

480
00:36:21.840 --> 00:36:23.639
things out Crusaders, you know,
the things I gotta like, you know,

481
00:36:23.719 --> 00:36:28.119
the other things. But I'm really
getting into jazz. And it's like

482
00:36:28.239 --> 00:36:30.840
all of this music, even back
to the thirties and the fifties and so

483
00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:34.519
forth, like bebop are in the
fifties. It's like I've gotten to her.

484
00:36:34.559 --> 00:36:37.800
I can recognize an artist now.
So now you're listening, you go,

485
00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:40.239
wait, that's Miles Davison. No, that's Byragira and things like that,

486
00:36:40.519 --> 00:36:45.840
right, Yeah, A measure of
I must be changing with growing up

487
00:36:45.920 --> 00:36:50.559
or whatever you call it. It's
like, suddenly Miles Davis makes sense to

488
00:36:50.719 --> 00:36:52.360
me. Yeah, yeah, you
know. And I'm going like, I

489
00:36:52.519 --> 00:36:57.960
cannot listen to kind of Blue enough. And it's like I'm guarding on the

490
00:36:58.000 --> 00:37:00.679
run. It's like someone the Commandos
Jordan. I remember, I'm going like

491
00:37:00.800 --> 00:37:06.239
wow. So so I'm my jones
for new music, even though it's not

492
00:37:06.480 --> 00:37:09.840
that new is being filled by k
jazz these days. When you have around

493
00:37:10.119 --> 00:37:13.920
and I just love it going like
oh yeah, I recognid that's cool.

494
00:37:14.199 --> 00:37:19.159
I'm fusion. I'm still not like
m I don't. I don't know.

495
00:37:20.119 --> 00:37:23.880
I try, but Kenny G and
that stuff just I don't get it.

496
00:37:24.000 --> 00:37:28.239
But a lot of the great jazz, I mean, it's like, wow,

497
00:37:28.679 --> 00:37:32.079
fusion jazz reminds me of using a
restroom in a public facility. It's

498
00:37:32.199 --> 00:37:36.360
that background music to keep the flow
going. I got a buddy as a

499
00:37:36.400 --> 00:37:42.039
great title for it, air Pudding, Air Pudding. Do you think that

500
00:37:42.239 --> 00:37:45.239
the des of radio of the era
and the magnitude that you brought and did

501
00:37:45.320 --> 00:37:51.800
the voice of liberalism, truth or
what needed to be said at that at

502
00:37:51.840 --> 00:37:54.440
just time, no matter what political
stands. I don't know if that was

503
00:37:54.519 --> 00:38:02.000
the intent, but it is the
result. Yeah. What happens is when

504
00:38:02.079 --> 00:38:07.079
you have went to get getting back
to you know the great satan, you

505
00:38:07.119 --> 00:38:13.119
know, corporate radio. Um,
there's no voice. And I'm not saying

506
00:38:13.199 --> 00:38:17.360
that they did it intentionally. It's
just part of the control mechanism. Um.

507
00:38:17.679 --> 00:38:21.960
But your question is very valid.
The things that we used to do

508
00:38:22.679 --> 00:38:27.320
that to be part of it went
with the business. It will. You

509
00:38:27.400 --> 00:38:30.079
know, one of us had our
own idea. We tried not to get

510
00:38:30.119 --> 00:38:31.960
in a soapbox. Like I said, my boss used to be, if

511
00:38:32.000 --> 00:38:36.920
I can hear you in a soapbox, you're out of here. But there

512
00:38:36.920 --> 00:38:39.480
are always to make your point,
nonetheless, and we all did, and

513
00:38:39.599 --> 00:38:45.039
we supported you said liberal think where
you didn't call them. But um,

514
00:38:45.679 --> 00:38:49.760
it's a good point. I have
to get back some thoughts whether the chicken

515
00:38:49.920 --> 00:38:52.679
came before the egg, because the
result is the same. You are right,

516
00:38:52.760 --> 00:38:57.800
there's there is no voice. It's
it's all corporate now. Uh.

517
00:38:57.880 --> 00:39:02.159
And if you say anything that the
company doesn't want, we're in trouble.

518
00:39:02.239 --> 00:39:07.159
Yeah, that's true. As far
as whether that was the point to stop

519
00:39:07.280 --> 00:39:09.519
the voice of liberalism or whatever you're
gonna I don't know. I can't.

520
00:39:09.519 --> 00:39:13.840
I really can't answer that. I
wouldn't be surprised, but I can't say

521
00:39:13.920 --> 00:39:17.000
for sure. But it is a
result one way or the other. It

522
00:39:17.559 --> 00:39:21.239
definitely is a result. Stick around
Back to the Age radio. We're gonna

523
00:39:21.239 --> 00:39:24.400
be right back. Hey, this
is Laurie Miller from the first an Original

524
00:39:24.519 --> 00:39:32.679
Expose and you're listening to back to
the eighties radio. It certainly is a

525
00:39:32.800 --> 00:39:37.519
big bun. It's a very big
fun, Big Jeff, it's a very

526
00:39:37.599 --> 00:39:43.400
big, fluffy fun. Why is
the beef some hamburger place to give you

527
00:39:43.440 --> 00:39:46.079
a lot less beef on a lot
of bun? Where's the beef bat Wendy's.

528
00:39:46.159 --> 00:39:50.800
We have a hamburger we modestly call
the single and Wendy's single has more

529
00:39:50.880 --> 00:39:53.239
beef than the whopper or big knack
weend Did you get more beal and less

530
00:39:53.360 --> 00:40:00.039
bun? I don't think you want
something better? It is kind of people.

531
00:40:00.519 --> 00:40:06.599
Now back to good, wholesome,
politically correct entertainment. Oops, rog

532
00:40:06.719 --> 00:40:24.880
station, Now back to the eighties
with Tescato and che Back to the eighties

533
00:40:24.960 --> 00:40:30.960
radio. You're hearing from an eighties
legend of radio himself, Gino Michellini from

534
00:40:30.079 --> 00:40:36.960
Kloskome and many others in California,
especially in Los Angeles. A quick reminder

535
00:40:37.199 --> 00:40:40.360
that you can send your topic requests
here at Back to the Eighties Radio at

536
00:40:40.400 --> 00:40:45.760
gmail dot com. That's back the
number two the eighties Radio at gmail dot

537
00:40:45.840 --> 00:40:50.519
com. Let's talk a little bit
about music, because it was a soundtrack

538
00:40:50.760 --> 00:40:54.760
of our life. You were the
intermediaries between that and us, you know,

539
00:40:55.159 --> 00:41:00.800
and you guys brought that to us. No I got can only imagine

540
00:41:00.880 --> 00:41:04.440
and what I wouldn't have given,
What I wouldn't give now to have a

541
00:41:04.559 --> 00:41:07.800
real time machine and be able to
go back and be a part of that

542
00:41:07.119 --> 00:41:12.199
firsthand. Speaking about music, what
was your Well, let's let's make it

543
00:41:12.280 --> 00:41:15.719
easy. What was your favorite type
of music to play? I mean,

544
00:41:15.360 --> 00:41:17.760
was it? Was it the real
hard rock? Was it the classic?

545
00:41:17.880 --> 00:41:22.480
What was it? Once again,
I've been asked that question many times and

546
00:41:22.719 --> 00:41:25.760
the answer is always the same.
It depended on the mood I was in.

547
00:41:27.519 --> 00:41:30.199
I mean, in the beginning I
grew up, you know, when

548
00:41:30.199 --> 00:41:35.159
I started getting into musical enough to
realize I'm gonna buy records and elect music,

549
00:41:35.719 --> 00:41:39.960
I bought everything. That's why I
always have a problem with people whom

550
00:41:40.000 --> 00:41:43.800
you like one style of music.
I like it all, I mean,

551
00:41:44.119 --> 00:41:47.039
greater than I said. I'm not
into opera, And there's parts of the

552
00:41:47.119 --> 00:41:52.360
country I'm not big gone you know, yeah, we know what you mean.

553
00:41:52.719 --> 00:41:55.880
I'm not. I'm not in the
death metal. You know, there's

554
00:41:55.960 --> 00:42:02.159
parts of food jazz I'm not into. But basically, you go through my

555
00:42:02.280 --> 00:42:07.840
library over you're gonna you're gonna find
everything. I mean, I have a

556
00:42:07.920 --> 00:42:14.159
complete classical library. It depends on
the mood I'm in and asked me what

557
00:42:14.239 --> 00:42:16.519
my favorite group is. Well,
I mean, if you I have two

558
00:42:16.559 --> 00:42:22.440
different lists I posted online a couple
of times. It's like, Okay,

559
00:42:22.480 --> 00:42:27.079
I'll have the list of what I
think are the greatest bands of all time,

560
00:42:27.119 --> 00:42:31.039
the greatest albums of all time.
But then there's also my personal list

561
00:42:31.159 --> 00:42:37.639
of favorite bands and favorite albums that
does not drive with that, because I

562
00:42:37.760 --> 00:42:40.639
will admit that led Zeppelins one of
the greatest bands that ever lived, and

563
00:42:40.719 --> 00:42:44.440
if I never hear them again,
fine, but they would be on my

564
00:42:44.559 --> 00:42:47.079
all time greatest bands list. But
they are on my Desert Island list right

565
00:42:47.480 --> 00:42:51.880
yeah, right on on that one. Now, it all depends on the

566
00:42:51.960 --> 00:42:54.159
mood, so I'm not trying to
be invasive, but once again, it

567
00:42:54.239 --> 00:42:58.920
depends on the mood. It really. I'm driving in the market this morning,

568
00:42:59.519 --> 00:43:01.719
I was just do this Steely Dan
and oh my god, damn,

569
00:43:01.800 --> 00:43:06.159
I love this ship. You know, it just depends on the mood I'm

570
00:43:06.199 --> 00:43:09.119
in. Were you a Motown fan? Oh god, yes, I see.

571
00:43:09.119 --> 00:43:14.960
I grew up in the East Coast, primarily in the sixties. If

572
00:43:15.039 --> 00:43:17.599
you wanted to go up with the
girls, you had to knew how to

573
00:43:17.719 --> 00:43:23.199
dance. Dancing was important to getting
girls in those days. Yeah, I

574
00:43:23.320 --> 00:43:27.559
mean the early days of bandstand all
that kind of stuff. I mean,

575
00:43:27.920 --> 00:43:30.760
learning how to dance was important for
a guy, a young guy. So

576
00:43:31.000 --> 00:43:35.639
yeah, I love you getting the
Motown funk guys are brothers. Oh god,

577
00:43:35.719 --> 00:43:39.519
yes, the platters, stylistics,
attemptations. I share a birthday with

578
00:43:39.599 --> 00:43:44.400
Bobby Darren. Bobby Darren was awesome. The Four Seasons, I mean,

579
00:43:45.599 --> 00:43:49.039
nineteen sixty two. See when I
every time I hear Sherry Baby, I'm

580
00:43:49.079 --> 00:43:52.320
thinking about it was just before we
shipped back to Germany and I went to

581
00:43:52.480 --> 00:43:58.400
high school in Western Pennsylvania, went
back to the family home and I was

582
00:43:58.480 --> 00:44:01.559
there for the summer of sixty two. Then we shipped to Germany in sixty

583
00:44:01.599 --> 00:44:07.320
two. And that was one of
those songs. It's like how music can

584
00:44:07.400 --> 00:44:12.199
take you there. Cherry Baby sixty
two, Western Pennsylvania on the river bank

585
00:44:12.519 --> 00:44:17.239
Bucks in the Allegheny River, go
by, Yeah that that that party lights?

586
00:44:19.159 --> 00:44:22.400
Do you love me? That?
That whole summer was all that great

587
00:44:22.440 --> 00:44:25.639
stuff. I mean, just amazing
music. To this day, it's a

588
00:44:25.760 --> 00:44:30.639
great music. Oh yeah, today
it's it defines it defines a time.

589
00:44:30.440 --> 00:44:35.840
But to me, it also will
live on throughout I mean to me at

590
00:44:35.920 --> 00:44:39.119
just as you two guys. To
be a real music lover, you have

591
00:44:39.199 --> 00:44:45.119
to appreciate all the styles of music
before the one that really tickled your fancy.

592
00:44:45.559 --> 00:44:46.760
So you have to go back and
know the roots of it. And

593
00:44:47.159 --> 00:44:52.920
that vibe that you got with the
old music correct geno still gives you the

594
00:44:52.079 --> 00:44:58.760
vibe with newer music, depending on
the content. And I think the believability

595
00:44:58.960 --> 00:45:02.239
of the newer mus When I was
a music director, and especially in the

596
00:45:02.320 --> 00:45:07.360
seventies, I mean that was the
days of expense accounts from record companies and

597
00:45:07.519 --> 00:45:12.599
you know everything, everything was being
promoted. I mean you talk about free

598
00:45:12.679 --> 00:45:15.000
records, free tickets for you name
it, you know. But the thing

599
00:45:15.119 --> 00:45:19.039
is, you still had to decide
what you were going to put on the

600
00:45:19.119 --> 00:45:22.559
air. And it doesn't matter how
much your library is or you know how

601
00:45:22.639 --> 00:45:27.639
much you love the new stuff.
Basically, you can still play twelve albums,

602
00:45:28.000 --> 00:45:32.280
twelve songs that album and an hour
giver take. That doesn't change.

603
00:45:32.280 --> 00:45:36.280
It's still sixty minutes in an hour, and you have to play the hits.

604
00:45:36.320 --> 00:45:38.719
You have to play a certain things
to hold the audience's attention, and

605
00:45:38.840 --> 00:45:42.519
you work the new stuff into the
obscure stuff or whatever. Yet that was

606
00:45:42.559 --> 00:45:45.599
part of the poem, called it
formatics. But the thing was there was

607
00:45:45.760 --> 00:45:51.159
so much music then to listen to. And I remember I had a program

608
00:45:51.280 --> 00:45:54.920
director, Bust Michael used to say, you get fired up with his meetings

609
00:45:55.880 --> 00:45:59.679
as far as getting us, you
know, to do the right thing.

610
00:46:00.400 --> 00:46:05.639
And remember one of the inspirational meetings
after we done the meetings, and it's

611
00:46:05.679 --> 00:46:10.199
like, I want you to think
of your four hours on the air as

612
00:46:10.239 --> 00:46:15.800
a blank canvas, and every day
you go on the air, I want

613
00:46:15.880 --> 00:46:20.880
you to paint me the best damn
picture you can and I want you to

614
00:46:21.039 --> 00:46:24.920
use all the colors of the rainbow
to do it. Get it, And

615
00:46:25.039 --> 00:46:31.840
we're doing He wants us to listen
to more albums. Cool. That was

616
00:46:31.920 --> 00:46:37.039
it. Paint the best picture you
possibly could, man, use all the

617
00:46:37.119 --> 00:46:39.679
colors of the rainbow. I'll never
forget that, because we were pretty colorful

618
00:46:39.719 --> 00:46:44.000
ourselves in those days. I got
to remember that, you know, because

619
00:46:45.440 --> 00:46:50.159
as I worked with this character right
here, that's what me and him are

620
00:46:50.239 --> 00:46:54.360
always trying to create. We don't
try to be controversial. We leave a

621
00:46:54.400 --> 00:46:59.639
lot of our political views out.
We do not jump on soult Boxes.

622
00:46:59.679 --> 00:47:01.679
But me, this guy, we
have a certain way to where we're going

623
00:47:01.760 --> 00:47:04.800
to let you know what we think
of the world, but we're going to

624
00:47:04.880 --> 00:47:07.519
do it in a funny way to
where you're not going to believe if it's

625
00:47:07.719 --> 00:47:12.840
what we believe in or not.
And what you just brought up is magic

626
00:47:12.960 --> 00:47:16.719
because when both of us do our
own radio programs, or when we worked

627
00:47:16.719 --> 00:47:21.360
on Tuscano Win Chang, which we
think would have been one of the greatest

628
00:47:21.599 --> 00:47:24.679
morning shows of all times since Mark
and Brian. But that's only me saying,

629
00:47:25.199 --> 00:47:30.760
but we are always trying to paint
a beautiful picture. Most of our

630
00:47:30.880 --> 00:47:37.079
content here and the content that we
both do on our own radio programs is

631
00:47:37.159 --> 00:47:42.079
pretty much improv I used to be
a stand up comedian pretty much my whole

632
00:47:42.199 --> 00:47:49.679
life. So it's improv is everything
because that is the building block to creativity,

633
00:47:49.800 --> 00:47:52.400
and it's going to bring people in
because people are going to sit on

634
00:47:52.480 --> 00:47:54.800
the edge, just like I sat
on the edge, you know, waiting

635
00:47:54.880 --> 00:47:59.079
to hear what you and everybody else
would say. What's he gonna say?

636
00:47:59.480 --> 00:48:02.400
Whoa oh, he said that,
let's keep this going. I want to

637
00:48:02.480 --> 00:48:06.760
get on the ride. I want
another ticket because I want to go farther.

638
00:48:07.360 --> 00:48:10.320
So the the way you word to
that is beautiful. I was asked

639
00:48:10.440 --> 00:48:15.079
like, well, when do you
come up with your ideas? You know?

640
00:48:15.320 --> 00:48:21.320
And I'm thinking when, don't ie? You never know what's going to

641
00:48:21.360 --> 00:48:23.159
trigger. And that's why I carry
a notepad with me. And it's like

642
00:48:23.599 --> 00:48:29.639
and and strange me enough. I
would get most of my ideas in the

643
00:48:29.800 --> 00:48:35.320
car m driving to work or just
driving her in. It's like something I

644
00:48:35.400 --> 00:48:37.960
hear something in her, I see
something thought would come to me and it's

645
00:48:38.000 --> 00:48:40.679
like I gotta go get that right
back, you know, And it's alfa,

646
00:48:40.719 --> 00:48:45.159
it's not I have. I've got
in the back. I've got a

647
00:48:45.199 --> 00:48:51.719
pilecab and full of old books and
you know material, folders and tablets and

648
00:48:51.920 --> 00:48:54.480
you know, you name it,
full of material. And I'd write ideas

649
00:48:54.559 --> 00:48:58.559
down, you know, Da da
da da da dada. And by the

650
00:48:58.639 --> 00:49:00.480
time I get on the air,
I'm on the air, and ideas are

651
00:49:00.519 --> 00:49:05.480
coming to be on the air.
Sure, we got a listener from Atlanta

652
00:49:06.039 --> 00:49:08.920
wants to ask before we let you
go, if you could travel back in

653
00:49:09.079 --> 00:49:15.199
time and change change something that you
did during your career. Is there anything

654
00:49:15.239 --> 00:49:19.719
and what would it be if there
is something you change. Wow, that's

655
00:49:19.760 --> 00:49:23.400
a hard one because there are.
There's a couple of things about my career,

656
00:49:23.519 --> 00:49:28.039
not my life, correct, they
were kind of intertwined for quite a

657
00:49:28.119 --> 00:49:31.800
long time. Be honest with you, and this is being brutally honest.

658
00:49:34.159 --> 00:49:38.800
When I was first let go at
KLOS the first time, if I'd have

659
00:49:38.880 --> 00:49:44.760
been smart, i'd have sold my
house and moved back to San Francisco then,

660
00:49:45.559 --> 00:49:49.000
and I made the mistake of sticking
around for five years. I wanted

661
00:49:49.039 --> 00:49:52.159
to get my job back, and
when I got the job back, it

662
00:49:52.480 --> 00:49:55.800
wasn't what it was when I left, that old saying I don't ask,

663
00:49:55.920 --> 00:49:58.960
you know, the wish too much
for what you want, you might get

664
00:49:59.039 --> 00:50:01.599
it. I got it, and
next other than put more money in my

665
00:50:04.360 --> 00:50:08.800
pension fund that next five years with
pure hell, it made me. By

666
00:50:08.840 --> 00:50:14.760
the time he had ended, I
had a hard time in my mind because

667
00:50:15.719 --> 00:50:20.039
I was dealing with the fact I
no longer loved radio. So the mistake

668
00:50:20.159 --> 00:50:22.679
was coming back. I should not
have done that. You heard it here

669
00:50:22.760 --> 00:50:29.159
from the man himself, do you
know Michelini from ks Koime and many others.

670
00:50:29.760 --> 00:50:31.639
Gina, thank you so much for
taking the time out of your busy

671
00:50:31.719 --> 00:50:36.519
schedules. I hope that this is
the first of many appearances on Back to

672
00:50:36.599 --> 00:50:39.639
the Dais Radio. You can get
something from this. We got you and

673
00:50:39.840 --> 00:50:43.920
that's more more than what we could
ask for. Gino, I want to

674
00:50:44.000 --> 00:50:46.320
thank you again and tell you from
the bottom of my heart, this is

675
00:50:46.400 --> 00:50:52.119
as great a moment as the day
I met Muhammad Ali and I look forward

676
00:50:52.119 --> 00:50:53.800
to you being on the show again. Yeah. I shook his hand once

677
00:50:53.880 --> 00:50:58.280
too, and it was like,
there are not many people that I have

678
00:50:58.360 --> 00:51:00.760
been in awe of in my life. He was one of them. I

679
00:51:00.920 --> 00:51:06.119
hear you. He told me,
whatever you do, stand up for something

680
00:51:06.199 --> 00:51:09.119
bigger than yourself, and stand up
for people who cannot stand up for themselves.

681
00:51:09.599 --> 00:51:13.960
And I try to do that every
time I cracked this mic, and

682
00:51:14.079 --> 00:51:16.440
I tried to do that every time
I go into a different place. I

683
00:51:16.559 --> 00:51:21.239
leave you with this. It's all
about you, know your life and being

684
00:51:21.280 --> 00:51:25.360
able to enjoy your lifting and be
able to live with yourself. I kid

685
00:51:25.480 --> 00:51:30.960
with a good friend of mine was
still on serious and we kid about it

686
00:51:30.960 --> 00:51:35.880
all the time. She's my age, and the difference between her and I

687
00:51:36.159 --> 00:51:40.559
is she learned how to play with
corporate types and play around them. I

688
00:51:40.760 --> 00:51:45.559
never did, and because of that, I'm retired. I didn't quit.

689
00:51:45.320 --> 00:51:51.159
I was retired. So it's like
you got you gotta mix that, you

690
00:51:51.239 --> 00:51:55.280
know what is important to you.
I'm thankful that I had a wonderful career

691
00:51:55.320 --> 00:52:00.880
and a great life. I wouldn't
trade it for anything. And it's gone,

692
00:52:00.079 --> 00:52:04.760
and now I've had to adapt to
the new reality. Took a while.

693
00:52:05.960 --> 00:52:09.599
Is the easy going from the hurricane
to the beach? Sounds cool?

694
00:52:09.760 --> 00:52:14.800
But trust me, it's not all
it's backed up to be. This is

695
00:52:14.840 --> 00:52:21.519
back to the eighties. We're gonna
be right back money na Hey, this

696
00:52:21.719 --> 00:52:24.480
is not a test. This is
rock and roll. Time to rocket from

697
00:52:24.519 --> 00:52:28.000
the Delta to the DMZ. Is
that me or does that sound like an

698
00:52:28.039 --> 00:52:32.199
Elvis Presley movie. Vivo da nan
oh, Vivo da nang, don't ying

699
00:52:32.280 --> 00:52:36.199
me, don't hang me. We
don't get a roban hangmer. Hey,

700
00:52:36.360 --> 00:52:38.360
it's a little too early for being
that loud. Hey too late. If

701
00:52:38.440 --> 00:52:45.159
it's popular, we do it totally
awesome and now back to the eighties with

702
00:52:45.400 --> 00:52:52.920
Toscato and Chay. Thanks for joining
us today as we had a great conversation

703
00:52:52.000 --> 00:52:57.760
with Gino Mitchellini from Kalos ninety five
point five from back in the eighties.

704
00:52:58.119 --> 00:53:02.280
Join us next Friday as we continue
with more banter, more talk, more

705
00:53:02.400 --> 00:53:08.199
madness here with the dynamic duo of
radio. Do your best to be safe,

706
00:53:08.639 --> 00:53:14.719
think about your family, always strive
to bring the world a contagious smile

707
00:53:15.159 --> 00:53:17.199
at the end of the day.
That's what we got. I like that.

708
00:53:17.440 --> 00:53:21.480
You know there was an eighties commercial
have a coke and a smile.

709
00:53:22.039 --> 00:53:25.280
Well, m maybe that's a good
idea this week. Have a coke and

710
00:53:25.440 --> 00:53:30.119
a smile and that's Coca Cola for
a lot of you long haired guys out

711
00:53:30.159 --> 00:53:36.000
there anyway. From Toscano, have
a great week. We love you all

712
00:53:36.159 --> 00:53:39.480
and thanks for supporting the Back to
the Eighties radio show. Oh this is

713
00:53:39.559 --> 00:53:46.440
a chang before we release you to
another changtastic weekend. On the last reference

714
00:53:46.519 --> 00:53:53.360
my buddy made that was very judgmental. Have a coke and a smile and

715
00:53:53.519 --> 00:53:58.679
go out there and don't be stupid. I treat everybody like you want to

716
00:53:58.719 --> 00:54:01.800
be treated. And remember we have
one life to live. Nothing has promised

717
00:54:01.800 --> 00:54:06.320
tomorrow. Go out there and stand
up for yourselves and somebody that can't stand

718
00:54:06.400 --> 00:54:09.119
up for themselves, stand for the
betterment of man. And remember keep a

719
00:54:09.239 --> 00:54:14.440
smile on your face. Let nobody
tell you you can't that nothing get you

720
00:54:14.599 --> 00:54:19.800
down. So I bid you all
an audios, asta manana, asta la

721
00:54:19.920 --> 00:54:24.639
vista, ah stella wigo sayanata.
And to all my buds and the oc

722
00:54:25.360 --> 00:54:43.519
lady brows and hose, and to
all the homies in the boudio back