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This is one I only back to
the eighties radio. We've got a

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great show. Thank you for joining
us today. Eight we're here together as

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we are every single time, with
the man, the myth, and the

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legend, the Chang. I like
the way that all went together, kind

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of like I'll take some light crutons
green cell and top that up with some

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thousand Island. Well, we've got
a wonderful, wonderful show for you.

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Would you not say a chantastic show? I would say we are all going

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to have a chang tactic show because
there is a special guest in the waiting

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utel. You know, for those
of you who liked harder rock, and

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you guys love hair metal, and
if you guys like metal, and if

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you guys love eighties music, you
are in for a treat because with us

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in studio we have steel Heart.
The guy looks like you can go fifteen

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rounds with anybody, I mean at
the microphone or with the gloves on.

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Hopefully all of you have got through
another grind and you're ready to rewind with

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Tisconno. With Chang here, I
want to give a special shout out,

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as we do every single time we're
together, because it's important that we think

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everybody who listens to us, who
takes time out of their day to let

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us in to their life. So
thank you to each person who's listening to

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Pandora to I heeart, to iTunes
to tune in and anywhere else. Just

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I really appreciate it. A big
shout out to Victor and Catherine Levine from

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force Field Studios, and let's let
them know Tisconno that one of these days,

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if they don't invite us, we'll
have to go down there with your

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acoustic with guitar and your son and
we'll have to serenagum of songs. Yes,

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the boys on guitar, and I
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of Frank Sinatra. Nice. I
want to give it a chang caastic shout

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out to everybody out there that wears
a uniform. You know who you are.

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You are the working class heroes.
Also a special shout out to everybody

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in the armed forces going out there
and putting your lives on the line and

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protecting us to let us do what
we are doing for all of you.

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A big shout out to everybody giving
us thumbs up, of course, but

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a big big thank you for all
those thumbs down as well, because we

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need your thumbs A thumb down to
us is just like a thumbs up,

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that's right, because we got your
attention. You just didn't like us.

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Here is I'll never let you go
by Steelheart. This is back to the

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eighties. Angel you Angel, that's
all a dream come true now at home

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and a lover. Never let you
go. I never let as how time,

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I never how angel heart alone to
me, you never was my last

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side and on them never when you
go, I silas the chat side.

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joining us is a real rocket,
ladies and gentleman in every sense of the

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word. He is the incomparable voice
of steel Heart. In twenty ten,

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did a tour with the Doors along
with ray Man Zerich and Robbie Krieger.

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Steelhearts Millionkoa is with us. Millie, thank you for coming back, my

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pleasure. Thanks for having me and
Millie when you joined us the last time,

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we talked, of course about all
those points that they usually talk about

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and interviewing shows and things like that, but let's go ahead and kick it

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off because we want to take advantage
of the time that we have with you.

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We hear a lot a lot of
paining your dudes from bands, especially

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from bands back then and from artists. What are some of the things,

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some of those tough things that you
personally had to go through to get to

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the point where you went to the
audition or to the point where you were

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discovered. What were some of those
dudes that were really just they were hard

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to kind of make you made you
want to doubt. Yeah, disheartening thing

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is that you know back in a
day. They made it so damn difficult

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for you to sending a demo tape
or something like that. You know,

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everybody was so too cool for school. You know, you can't go in

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here, you can't have unsolicited tapes. I mean it was a pain and

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the ass, I've gotta tell you. And we were rehearsing forever, and

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finally I one day, literally I
just said, you know what, that's

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it. I don't give a shit. I'm going to LA. I'm going

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to Hollywood become star. And it's
literally what I said at the dinner table

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my parents, and because my father
asked him, what are you you know,

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what are you doing? Literally,
what are you doing with your life?

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And I said, I'm going to
Hollywood Friday to become a star.

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And he said do it, you
know? And I did. I just

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I only had one. I had
one connection. One. The other ones

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was literally me taking a tape and
walking and knocking on doors, whether it

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was management firms or whether it was
I remember going to A and M Records,

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knocking on the door at a sunset
here and it's like, hey,

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you know who do I give a
tape to? I got an amazing I

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got an amazing band. This is
like this is the ship, you know,

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and it was like, I don't
know. I mean, I'm lucky

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I made it out alive kind of
thing, you know what I mean.

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So like the door song, right, bro, no one here gets out

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alive and you made it out.
Yeah exactly. But it's just like,

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you know, it's so they made
it so freaking difficult, and then there

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was so much too cool for school
also that you know, the A and

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R guys were like, you know, we did one show case and I

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mean the band was legit. I
mean we're ready. We were the songs

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were done, everything was done,
and the guy's like, well you need

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a little more work here, you
need this, you need that, and

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were looking at it. We're going
really and we got turned down quite a

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bit. It was kind of weird. And it wasn't until I went to

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Hollywood and I met up with this
producer and I knew there was a manager

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that was staying with him for the
weekend that we're working on a project.

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So I played the music to the
producer and he's like, wow, this

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is like this is amazing, you
know. So then stand comes upstairs the

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manager and he goes, hey,
stand, you should really listen to this

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this kid's music, you know,
and he goes, you know, I'm

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sure you're great. You look great, I'm sure you sound great. I

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don't want another band. I can't
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it, I can't take on another
band. I'm just an overload right now.

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So then the other guy should goes
to him, I really think you

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should listen to this, and he
goes, Okay, I'll tell you what.

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Here's my address in New York,
in my office. Send it to

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my office. I'll have a listen. I'll get back to you. So

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this was Monday, right at noon, so as soon as I left,

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as soon as I left the meeting, I went right to fed X and

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I fed X that overnight. So
when he came to the office in the

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morning on Tuesday, he was flying
out that night. He got the tape

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and I wasn't even home yet,
but I listened to my answering machine,

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and on the answer machine I could
hear I'll never let you go, literally

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only halfway through the chorus. Okay, and he says, you fucking prick,

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it is that good? Call me
immediately. So then I called him.

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I came home Wednesday. Thursday,
I went to New York. The

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band and I went to New York. We met with Stand and we had

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a verbal agreement we're going to work
together. And Friday, literally this is

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this true story, Friday, at
five pm, he calls me, you're

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ready. You're gonna be on Universal
MCA Records. Have a good weekend boone.

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From there, it happened, like
you know, everything is snowballed so

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quickly we made an amazing record,
and sadly it was on the shelf for

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eight months. You know, the
Universal really wasn't doing anything with it,

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which was really disheartening and frightening.
You know, we weren't quite sure what

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was going on. And but what
happened is that Japan Masaito, a very

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influential DJ back then played She's Gone
and he got over two and a half

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thousand phone calls for the song.
It was. It was just unbelievable,

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the overwhelming response. So it hit, It hit big, and then I

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went to Japan for interviews. I
didn't know what was going on. I

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landed and there was probably like four
or five hundred fans waiting for me.

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I mean, it was like something
you you know, you kind of read

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about you know, the Beatles and
all of that stuff. Then it just

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took off and then United States picked
up and then the rest is history.

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You know, a little side note
that I was reading that when the album

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has released, thirty three thousand albums
were sold in one day, in one

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day in Japan going platfum. I
mean, that's amazing. You remember the

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albums then it was fifty dollars an
album over there, fifty dollars. It's

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insane, you know, so um, yeah, that was that was extremely

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exciting. But those are you know, those are the challenges. It took

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us what I believe, ten or
thirteen years rehearsing, just sitting around sending

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tapes of no responses. It's like
and everybody knows this one, and I

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know this one, and then you
give the tape and then you know,

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it's just everybody's so busy and it
was a lot of work. I'll be

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honest with you. We could do
it again. I if I was in

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charge, I would definitely give a
lot more opportunities for people, you know,

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and try to respond to them as
well. You know, why do

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you think rock and roll as we're
discussing hits bigger in pan and other countries

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faster than it does sometimes here in
the United States or the UK. Rather

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well, I think it's a smaller
demographic first of all. You know,

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it's more concentrated smaller countries, and
they get to hear it, and they

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get to how would I say,
process it quicker, I think, and

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they do it, you know,
take them. I think they take a

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little more of a minute to appreciate
it and see what it really is.

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United States is so vast, I
mean, to get hurt in United States.

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It's like Hendricks didn't make it here
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the UK. Yeah, I mean
it's just like you know in the United

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States. You know, I gotta
say, everyone's fickle, too cool for

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school. Sometimes it's like, ah, it's a lot of work, you

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know, so but at time you
get to reach the people. It just

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I mean, it just takes a
long time. It's a lot of people

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here. It's a big country.
A lot of amazing artists also and a

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lot of bullshit artists. Way,
oh offense, Sorry some artists. I

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shouldn't be doing that, it should
be doing something else. And yeah,

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it's just difficult to get through without
a doubt. And we talked about this

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the last time you were here.
We're not going to go into it as

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far as details, but your worst
moment without a doubt, in my opinion,

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of course, would have had to
be in your night on Halloween night,

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since you had to live through the
torment in many different facets. Talk

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to us just about what went through
your mind, if you can. Oh,

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well, that was very you know, difficult. For a minute there,

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I didn't know if I was going
to be able to keep going,

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keep singing. You know, my
world completely crumbled. I mean, everything

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went anything that could go wrong went
wrong. It was almost as if life

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stripping me, you know, of
everything and rebuilding me so to speak.

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You know, I wouldn't lie there
for seven months. I didn't leave the

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house because my brain swelled and I
couldn't I couldn't even go the bathroom.

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Was just a lot of work and
blink. I couldn't blink because the pain

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was so excruciating. But you know, after a while, it's just had

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a lot of time to think it
was time to move on, you know.

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And when I did do that,
the band separated. It was it

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wasn't fun. I'd be honest with
you, it was sad. It was

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sad the way it all kind of
you know, dissipated. But then it

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just grew to more stuff than you
know it game, the money missing,

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and then managers and legal things.
I mean, it just went from one

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thing to another thing to another thing. And on top of that, then

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I started losing memory, and then
I was in a fog. So it

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was just years of mentally rebuilding my
brain. Wow, I was there in

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consciousness and then all of a sudden, I just drifted, drifted somewhere else,

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and I was just like, whoa, and now I'm here, and

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then now I'm not here, And
it was just my conversations with people be

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you know, focusing, and all
of a sudden I started talking about something

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else. That's what traumatic brain injury
is, you know. So a lot

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of things went through my mind.
I did see a lot in those moments.

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I had learned how to go to
sleep, honestly, which is I

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know sounds crazy, but at one
point, you know, my life was

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such a turmoil that I couldn't fall
asleep. I ended up on a futon

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in the attic of my friend's house. I mean, go figure, and

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I wasn't on drugs, I wasn't
drunk, you know, none of that.

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And it was just it was just
life said, you know what,

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pause, let's let's restart this thing. You know, after that, you

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can't sleep, You're stressing out,
you're stressing out in the morning, you're

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stressed out at night. It's like
and one day I just said, you

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know what is it, I'm tired. I gotta go to sleep. I

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can stress tomorrow, but right now
I need to sleep. All right,

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good, we got it done.
And from then on till this day,

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when I put my head on a
pillow, I'm gone like a baby.

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Like a baby, because it's it's
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start tomorrow stressing out, but if
you take it to bed, it doesn't

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work. Nothing changes. But if
you come fresh and wake up fresh,

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you're clean, you got your mental
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rebuild. And also what I did, you know it was really crazy?

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I thought it was. Was one
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I took days off from stressing.
Check check this is this is really funny.

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Now here I am okay, I
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done. I'm shot. Burt okay
I'm sitting it with fifteen cents in my

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podcast, I'm like going, oh
man, this is like, how can

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this be? You know, in
a minute ago, I'm playing Denver Arena,

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you know, but I did,
I said, you know what,

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I'm getting tired of this. Tomorrow
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a day off from stressing. I'm
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taking in a day off from abusing
myself, you know, or other people

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whatever they think. I don't give
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and I'd wake up and I go, okay, today is a day off,

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and it works. It really works. Okay. It gives you a

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moment to reset, you know,
give yourself a moment because this is life,

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you know, and it's it's like, we're not perfect, but it

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would be great to take a minute, even if you're whatever you're doing,

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window shop and take a walk.
I would fall asleep in the park on

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the grass, you know, and
just take that moment, and then the

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next day you can start stressing all
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matter things. So would you say
that your best moment personally was after all

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that experience and then you came back. Would you say that was one of

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your best moments personally? Yeah,
you know whatever. One really major moment

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was when we were mixing the Weight
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there, and I believe Kit was. I'm a friend of mine and producer

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that we made that record. We
passed away recently a very dear friend Kit

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was mixed and I believe we all
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song. And it was after dinner, and we were in England, beautiful

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studio and the chefs were amazing,
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after dinner, I got my feet
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taking a nat while he's mixing,
but I could still hear everything, you

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know, but I'm falling into a
nice space, and out of nowhere,

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something just picked me up off my
chair. I just I mean, I

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stood up, like, I mean
like something picked me up. And I

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stood up, and Kit looks like, WHOA, What's going on? What

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happened? What's the matter? I
go, holy shit, I'm back,

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I'm back in this world. It
was so I can't I can't even explain

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it. It was like now I
was in back in this world. Before

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I'm always like you know, in
out, in out fuzzy and I came

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back and it was just remarkable,
a supernatural moment. You know, all

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we saw on TV or heard on
the radio was just the end result of

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a lot of blood, sweat and
tears that bands went through. And in

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this case, steel Heart yourself.
Let's take a short breather. When we

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come back, we'll be reading some
questions from fans that we just got.

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We'll be back with steel Heart.
Back to the Eighties Radio. You're listening

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to Back to the eighties. Oh, do you remember the first time you

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tried these games? Space fuck?
Let's practice cop do y'alllex see? And

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when you first tried and coke and
you said no, thank you, But

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let's try and coke again? Because
once you got that new wave of taste,

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do you want to try it again
and again and again? No practice?

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Catch the way, cocag If you
can't wear a spandex jumpsuit, what

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can you do this? Back to
the Ages Radio, we are joined by

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steel Hart. We did say some
questions from fans. They want to have

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you hopefully answer them. So here's
a few questions. Here's one from Diane

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Orange County, California. She says, what's the strangest thing that ever happened

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to you while on tour? Aside
from the accident? Of course, maybe

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one of the funniest strange things.
I would say that comes to mind right

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away. We were doing Everybody Loves
Eileen video? Do you remember that video?

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And I had these uh suede suede
fringe like Indian pants and we'd be

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jam and touring performing anyway. That
night I was like losing, how would

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I say, just having a lot
of fun. And I'm in a front

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row and there's a bunch of people
in the front row and I'll never forget

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it. There was a couple of
girls in the front row and I and

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I'm saying I do to backbend,
you know, scream, and my pants

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ripped an half no under it.
So I guess that was a kind of

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strange, kind of funny. Ricardo
from the Bronx asking is there a song

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that you wish you had recorded?
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any song in the world, is
there a song that you wish it would

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have been you recording that song?
Ah? Um, I would probably you

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know what suppose they stay with Stare
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I would like to do, you
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version of Stare what Happened, by
the way, never released it, and

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it was it's actually really nice.
It's got a nice vibe to it.

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But I would say that, yes, there would happen, I do.

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I think that's a beautiful song and
that's forever. Tammy from Florida is asking,

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is there an eighties band that's not
rock that you really enjoy listening to?

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Well, here's my problem. I'm
good to be really honest. My

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problem is as you see the studio
that you're that you're seeing absolutely okay.

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I'm in here like all the time. Okay, So I when I leave

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here, I don't listen to bands. I don't listen to me. I

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listened to classical music, meditation music
because it's too much. So I'm a

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little bit out of the loop to
be brutally honest. We got Joe Anne

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from Seattle just asking, how do
you take care of your voice because you

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do sing those extremely high notes and
what is the most difficult song to sing?

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Well, they're all difficult straight up, okay, um, but to

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take care of my voice. I
really um, well, I don't smoke.

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I gotta go easy, you know, very moderate on the alcohol because

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it strips your throat, you know, if you're drinking and a let um.

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I don't know drugs. Uh,
it's honey, tea, a lot

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of water. And the best thing
for me that I really really love is

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the more I sing, the better
I get. And recently it's been so

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much of these days it's like all
of it's like more of promotion and everything

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else than singing, you know,
and I'm just doing all the I'm actually

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singing Eileen right now for the thirtieth
album, finishing that up. And yesterday

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I sang a good eight hours.
It feels so good. So a lot

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of singing, hot water, honey, a lot of rest and that's it.

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Just go easy on the alcohol and
no smoking, you know. But

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let me say this, I love
a Scotch and a good cigar once in

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a while. You know. It's
you know, being a singer, it's

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not just about singing. There's so
much involved. It's a it's a keep

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healthy, you gotta sing, You've
got it's a mental you know. There's

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so many facets to being a singer. It's not just like boom boom go.

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You know, well involved. I'm
sure all the singers know that.

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Another note I rerecorded She's Gone with
a forty piece orchestra for this album.

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Wow, And it's just vocals,
vocals, piano and a forty piece orchestra.

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It is. I think it's gorgeous, Okay, I'd love to hear

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that. Yeah, it's I'm really
excited for the world to hear it.

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I hope you guys will like it's
special. You know, Chang, remember

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about a couple of weeks ago,
I started listening to one by one through

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your entire albums, right, do
you remember changed about two weeks ago what

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I told you about the song She's
Gone. Yeah, you said that was

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one of your favorites. Yeah,
you said that it was very balanced,

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ballad like, poetic, deep lyrics. You said that was probably one of

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your now favorite songs that you can
go back to the eighties and grab.

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Yeah. It literally is a masterpiece
musically speaking. You know, my younger,

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my youngest son, who's a guitarist, I had him listened to it

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with I would say a considerable amount
of volume in the car, and he

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was just like Wow, amazing song. You jam with Zach, Matt and

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Jeff when you guys are cracking that
movie star right, and you still keep

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in touch with those cats. Have
you gotten into studio with him just for

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fun or any other kind of business
with those cats? Well, what we're

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working on, you know. In
twenty nineteen, I actually put together a

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show with a promoter in pomp on
a Beach, Florida, and we were

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going to actually do Steel Dragon.
We were going to do a show.

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Jason wasn't going to do it because
he was on tour and so not on

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tour. He just, I don't
know, couldn't do it or something.

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But it was me, Zach Wilde, Jeff Pilson, and Matt Srem Literally

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I think it was I want to
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pandemic hit. It just cut it. So so then we waited, and

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we waited till the summer, and
then it was pushed back to the winner,

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and then it was put to the
next year, and then two years

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went by. So right now I'm
actually waiting on a couple of offers and

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I hope that I can reach out
to the guys and see if we can

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do a show. Or two,
you know, with Steal the Dragon,

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which would be pretty wicked. Bro. Yeah, I think there'll be a

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loop love it. There's a decline
in the type of music talent that is

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getting promoted and played nowadays as opposed
to in our era. I'd even say

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up to the nineties with the kicking
in the door of grunge. But would

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you not say the decline of musical
talent and musical substance that we lack.

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Are three reasons, and here are
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deal free form radio, the end
of the radio personality, the end of

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music stores being able to go out
there listen to music at a venue.

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Tickets weren't that expensive, bands were
able to play more, there was a

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lot more pr to the business.
Do you think with the decline of music

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now all three things are of equivalence
and lead to this decline? Well,

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I definitely all all three and more. You know, I can add to

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that too. I think. I
think what's happening is that the talent,

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a lot of talented artists who are
artists, that's who they are. There

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boot us let's what I call them, their boot us, their channels.

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They are true to their art.
That's what they do, and those are

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the people we gotta this is work
with me, or I'll try to explain

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all of what I'm saying is there
are people that we have to protect.

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Those are the people we have to
find, nurture and build because they're giving

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us information, they're giving us memories, good feelings, or psychological health,

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I mean all the above, okay. And what I see is that a

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lot of those artists don't have the
capacity or the amount of information that comes

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through artists. Is a lot of
shit going on, okay, and then

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to have to start twitting or to
start doing this Facebook and the TikTok and

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the yip cock and the lock cock
and all that shit, okay, it

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burns them out. Okay, But
now you got these other guys not as

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good. They're not really artists.
They got something, you know, they'll

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put something together or the you know, some music. It's not bad,

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but they're really good in everything else. And then they'll do it for a

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year or two and they're like,
ah, that's not what I do.

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I'm actually an accountant. And it's
like, well, you're in the way

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of true artists, right, So
we kind of use a lot of that.

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I feel there's so many people in
the way. We have seventy thousand

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songs uploaded to Spotify a day,
seventy thousand. Who the hell makes all

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these songs? That's because because now
you know, nowadays you can anyone can

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make a song. It's easy.
Just you can just get her off the

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internet. You get you get a
track off the internet, and then you

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go and wrap on it, put
us and then and then put it up.

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It's like who old, Maybe I've
become famous. It's like winning.

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It's like a lot of thing,
you know. So we have that,

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we lost the authenticity. How do
we bring that back? How do we

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bring back live music? You know, we have to ask for it,

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The fans have to to ask for
it, you know. But you know,

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then again, you know, times
are changing and it is what it

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is today. That's the only that's
the thing. How do we how do

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we bring some of that back?
The future is here and we are moving

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forward and we have to accept that. But how do we bring some of

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that energy back? Because what I'm
hearing constant conversations is, oh, how

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amazing it was in the eighties.
Oh you guys missed the eighties oh,

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man, that was so amazing.
Then it was so much fun, and

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it's true, it really was.
So how do we bring some of that

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energy back? You know? And
yeah, the DJs now they have zero

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pull zero. They have a tape. They put in the tape and that's

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what you're playing. That's it.
There's three majors that own the music business.

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I'm old school bro, just like
you. And to me, growing

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up, I wasn't a TV kid. I was all about sports, but

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it was all about the radio.
I grew up with great jocks. That's

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the one thing I wanted to do
before I checked out of this world.

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I wanted to be an on air
personality. And the reason being because with

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my backing of my parents, I
was brought a very al much like a

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civil activist. I fear nothing.
My father was a tremendous a great mentor

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to me in his teachings and his
ways of life. So to man,

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growing up, music was everything to
me. Music and comedy the only two

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entities that we can captivate a mass
group of people at one time. And

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there is nothing but harmony that would
make a way sweeter world. And what

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we are up against now, I
feel is the powers above of above that

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bring us music that prostitute individuals to
sing. I think it's more of how

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you look, how sexy you can
be, how ridiculously stupid you could possibly

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be. Is what is making the
industry's money because they can rip these individuals

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off because they have no substance.
So I think great bands that we grew

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up with, a great band such
as yours. Bro, I mean,

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dude, you got to kill the
chops. I mean it's metal all the

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way. Bro. You know what
I'm saying, you guys are your styles

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those styles are becoming a dying breed. Yeah, I agree with you.

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You know, I did like what
you said that the prostitution of you know,

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artists. You know. Interesting.
What I will say is that it

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does come down to one thing,
money and the amount of greed that I

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see personally. Sorry, but it's
just still money. Me me, I

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I let me be the big swing
and penis here. I'm the guy.

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I'm you know, it's all about
me, this and that and I got

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this. I have that. We
lost the honesty. Okay, it's the

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honesty of making music. You know. People say to me. I gotta

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tell you a lot of people say
to me, why are you still making

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music? All these other bands don't
really make you know, in my genre,

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they don't make any more music.
Really, they will once in a

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while, but they're kind of done
with it, you know. I mean

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some of my friends who are in
this genre thirty years, they haven't made

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a record and they won't. Why
because they don't see the value in it.

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Okay, because not that it's gonna
make money or anything, but I

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don't see it that way. There
is a value. There's a value for

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me. There's a value of energy. There's something I need to say,

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and if it's coming through me,
like the song Trust and Love I wrote,

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I mean, this ship comes through
me. What am I gonna not

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go record it? Of course I'm
gonna record it. I'm gonna record it,

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and I'm gonna record it. I'm
gonna make crazy videos and I'm gonna

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do whatever I gotta do to do
what I'm supposed to do. That's what

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artists have to do. And maybe
some of more of that honesty with the

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rest of them, maybe we can
rise to a new level. You know.

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But right now it's become so digital, you know, not that I

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like some of that stuff, you
know, but it's become so digital,

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and some of it's become like really, I mean really, I'm fucking making

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so much money on that. It's
like, oh God, bless you man.

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You know what I mean, check
this out. It's like this,

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right. You listen to those records. You listen to all those older records

447
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when we went in that studio.
Okay, there's no auto tune, there's

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no pitching, there's no fixing,
there's no cutting. Either you got it

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or you don't. So one of
your passions, Emili is helping humanity in

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any way that is possible. And
if you can just talk to us about

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trust and love. There's a project
involved with all this which I sincerely believe

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is got the potential to do a
lot of great things for everybody. Talk

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to us about that, well,
I really do hope. So you know,

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sometimes I mean sometimes I see I
wish I could just shake everybody for

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a second and just showed, hey, this is it, guys, this

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is life. This is happening us
doing this interview right now. We are

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choosing to be together to do this
interview and talk about this. Every moment

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of the day is life, ti, Okay, And it could be gone

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in any second. As my accident, I was spared. I should have

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been dead. I should have been
dead on that stage. Absolutely that that

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impact, except that I was spared, and I just I'm through my songs.

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I'm just trying to send a message, a message of raising our vibration

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of intelligence. We're all there,
we all see it right now. It's

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like I feel like the world is
being tested with the war in Ukraine.

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I feel this one man is testing
the world to our level of intelligence.

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It is unifying a lot of people. It is definitely unifying. So it's

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I feel like we are growing and
my message is to rise and raise the

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vibration. That's what I want to
do. And that's what the song is.

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Trust and love, that's what it's
about. And you know, I

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don't know. I know we're pressed
for time, so I can go on

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with it for an hour, but
I just want to say, guys,

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this is life. It's ticking,
and you know we are all we all

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see a new level of thinking.
The old ways is not working. It

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we already did it. War doesn't
work, But it's time to it's time

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to step up. I feel it's
time to step up in every area.

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I want you to go out check
out Steelheart's page at stealheart dot com.

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By the way, quickly on August
nineteenth or August twentieth, one of those

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two days, we're shooting a movie
and the movie is uh. The movie

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which I'll be also acting in is
uh. The song Trust and Love is

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the theme of the movie, and
the director loved the song so much they

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changed the title of the movie to
trust and Love. What could be better?

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What could be better? I hope, I hope, I hope that

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you know everyone enjoys it. Thank
you for taking the time to talk about

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the music and times that became the
soundtrack of our lives, Millie, Thank

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you. S We are to suddenly
free and cover my story in this stream,

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in the hands of the breathe sucker, so breathe to be a race.

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There's a new word coming on just
for Open up your heart cream.

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Let it so free to the low
content what you have to own your life.

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Open your eyes and look open cho
sens. I can run. I

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can't, I old true step can't
yours? Can you? She's gone out

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of my line? I was wrong? How to lake? I want so

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dream? I can see my dreams. I'm west she's gone out of my

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life. She's gone. I find
it so hard to go run in the

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stud girl into my soul times to
s that was steel hard, but she's

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gone. The live version here,
I'm back to the eighties Radio Chang.

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It's time for us to bamonos and
to make it a good week up ahead.

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Thank you guys for joining us,
and thank you to steal Heart for

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taking the time to be with us
here and back to the eighties. For

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those of you who are gonna be
working this weekend, you know, just

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stay safe and over all things be
contagious with a friendly spirit. Share the

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eighties because nothing can be happier for
I release you all to another chang Testic

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weekend. I want you all to
remember stay lifted and gifted. Doesn't matter

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who you are, what you do, you matter. I bid you all

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then adios vista usama alawgo asayanada an
aloha, And to all my bros and

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hose in the OC, I want
to say, see it catching the next

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one. And to all my homies
and everybody across the land or the bo