The '80s: Decade of Decadence

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always backing this up. Also a
big shout out to Monty who is somewhere

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in the Midwest, maybe the East
of the United States somewhere. And also

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a big shout out to anybody wearing
a black T shirt with no sleeves that

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says homeboy. So a big shout
out to any homeboys out there, and

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a big shout out to all the
countries that make what we are, who

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we are, what we are.
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ears back to the eighties. Every
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many to name, but anywhere,
starting from the letter A to the letters

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the you guys mean the world to
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give a big shout out to everybody
in the armed forces. I also want

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to give a shout out to all
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doctors, our nurses, are paramedics, our police, our fire department,

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anybody that had to go out there
in the fear of what we were going

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through and hit it face off.
How you're all doing what we do.

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We do it for you. We
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also want to give them a big
shout out to everybody out there right now

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wearing a brown T shirt that is
formed to your muscular build. You know

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who you are. You know and
if your says army, I want you

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to make your chest stands right now. Boys and girls, ladies and gentlemen,

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do it. Yes. And the
why we're going we are going to

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continue our talk here of going back
to the eighties. Now, we've mentioned

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to you many times before that the
eighties had most of it was good,

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right, but there were stuff that
was bad, And today we're going to

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talk about some of that stuff that
was not so good. Right. Unfortunately,

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the topic of the day has hit
a lot of people. If you

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were from the eighties, really close
to home, so on that note.

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You guys keep it locked and loaded
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going to take off pay some bills, come right back, and we're going

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to dive into a conversation that hopefully
isn't a little bit too much, but

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we're going to put a light spin
on it. Back to the eighties radio.

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We'll be right back now. Don't
see the newspapers in a man cadz

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real causing going bround little by now, cousin may not laugh. Cloud spar

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craft spar walk as stand abound.
The team would come, have credit card

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fready, don't meet shot the mall. I'm anna bad guarantee and not satisfied.

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It's the deal of the sentry for
them at the time. You better

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hurry. I'll try to go inside
you better by now, cousin may not

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laugh. Fla spam babla bambaba by
slam bahla bambaba boo cry slam Babba bamba

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Baboozler, you bets are going back
a low because it may not last.

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Blas slam babla bamba boos slam balla
bamba boome is helping me in your line.

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No, it's rating to sign only
castle shard you got along it span

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Bama babba, a long lost friend
has to go and back. You're better

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by now because it may not last. Slam flash slam Baba Bama Flash,

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slam Baba baba, Flash slam babba, Bamba babooze alive, Flash slam Baba

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bamba ba booze alive. When we
thought the eighty eighties eighties rulin, that's

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because we had to live through this
decade. Yet you're listening to back to

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the eighties that fans was bamboosler by
the eighties banned ampage. We are going

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to dive head first in a topic
that is a little fun and a little

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sad. Tonight's topics. We are
going to talk about the fails and the

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trials and tribulations and the good times
of toxic drug use and alcohol use in

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the eighties in comparison to maybe some
of the drugs and alcohol and the scenarios

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we have nowadays. Now Tiscano,
I ask you, okay, what was

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your first type of alcohol that you
digested and how old were you? Well,

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see, I grew up in an
Italian house, so nine years old,

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so I want to stay around seven
or eight years old. My dad

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in the end, my dad's friends
when we us. But seah, I

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wasn't here in the United States,
so I was in I was living.

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That made it okay. That made
it okay because because it's a cultural it's

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a cultural thing. So what they
do is they give you an eight ounce

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glass, but only filled maybe about
an anch or two with red wine,

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and then they'll fill up the rest
with a soda water and and that's just

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so you can get your palette used
to drinking wine. So by the time

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you're you know, full blown twelve, you start drinking a half a glass

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of wine with your with your assado, which is your beef, you know,

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all these different kinds of meat,
and with your pasta geez. So

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I think it started, yeah,
seven or eight, And then when I

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was around twelve, I think I
had my first you know, I would

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sneak into the refrigerator and get some
beers. And now, when did you

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start carrying a forty five? I
was until later on in my years,

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but anyway, but I would say, yeah, between seven and twelve my

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first time that I actually got a
drunk. So let me paint you the

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story. My best friend and I
my best friend and I Mark Hernandez,

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we're ditching school. Here's the thing. We were ditching school at my house.

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So yeah, we yeah, because
my mom was working all day,

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so we just lived. We went
to school, but we just came back,

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you know. And so we went
to my house and I made the

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mist. No. No, most
of the houses had screen doors. Right,

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You had your your front door,
and most houses had screen doors.

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Normal door was opened, the screen
door was closed, but you can still

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see out, and then from out
you can still see in. Right.

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So I Mark pulls out a little
I think flask and he goes here,

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have some. I think it was
southern comfort. I think I remember that

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stuff like yesterday. Yea, some
sweet sweet stuff, right, And then

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I said, oh that's nothing.
Let me show you this, and I

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pulled out a jug of Julio Gallo
wine, which is like the cheapest wine

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you can get. Then you put
your forty five on the table. Well,

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yeah, first you're gonna I'm gonna
make you enough or you can't refuse.

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And the funny thing is, I, uh, my mom and dad

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had already divorced by this time,
but my dad would come pick me up

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once in a while. And I
said check this out. I'm going to

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down this bottle of wine as much
as I can gulp down. Yeah,

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So I literally and Mark at this
time was so drunk he passed out like

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somewhere in the hallway of my house. And I got the bus. Yeah.

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So I got the bottle and I
started chugging it. So all you

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can hear is so as I'm chugging
down the bottle of wine, which by

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the way, we do not condone
or recommend anybody doing this. Plus wine

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has fourteen percent alcohol, a beer
only has five. Okay, So I

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checked this out. Once I was
about halfway through my chugging of the red

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wine, I hear a whistle at
the front door like this, and I

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realized, as my back is towards
the door, that that is my dad's

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whistle. And he was standing at
the door. So because he only saw

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the backside my back, he didn't
see he didn't see the right So I

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scooted it over and as soon as
I turned around, because I was I

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was around thirteen thirteen years old,
fourteen, and as soon as I turned

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around, that thing just slammed my
head and immediately everything in the room started

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moving around. And I mean with
force. I didn't see I could not

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be a straight path to my dad. Oh yeah, And I don't know

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how it happened, but I kind
of faked it very well. So I

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said, oh, hi, Dad, and he goes, wasn't there class

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today? And I said, well, it was the teacher's meeting today,

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and he come yeah, and he
goes, good, come on, And

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all this time Mark's pa stout in
the hallway in my house. He left

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his ass there. I left him. I left him in my house.

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My dad goes, come on,
we're gonna go to lunch. And my

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dad takes me to this all right, all right, you can make fun

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of it. He takes me to
Marino's Italian restaurant. All the gus putting

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down their gunning day. What's going
on? Yeah, yeah, it's a

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very classic little hole in the wall, but very fancy restaurant. Any suits

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by this time? Oh yeah,
no, everybody. You can see everybody's

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reflection on their Valentino mad. Yeah, everybody's back. When we sat down,

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the owner of the restaurant goes,
hey, hey, money, how

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you're doing. You're here right?
Everybody's saying hi to me. In the

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restaurant. They had no idea that
I couldn't see straight. And I go,

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that's it. If they if they
know that something's going on, I'm

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just in deep trouble. Yeah,
so nobody could tell. But when the

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wood came, and I'm sorry,
I'm making this story long, but I

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had to man. So when when
the food came, I had my hand

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on the fork, but I couldn't
find my face to feed myself. So

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I took the fork and with my
thumb and my pinkie. With my pinkie,

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I held the fork with my thumb, I touched my face and guided

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it to my mouth. True story, true story, My never. My

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dad never found out until before he
died. I literally told him, Dad,

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remember such in such day? You
took me to the place. Oh

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yeah, you seemed a little weird. Yeah, because I was drunk.

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That's funny, man, you know
what. I got a lot of stories

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like that with my pops too.
I think I was thirteen maybe, yeah,

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I was about thirteen the first time
I had an alcohol and that's when

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I was an altar boy at Saint
Benedict's. Yeah, with my two buddies

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and my cousins, Phil Slatto with
pizzelato. Oh, and we were we

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were serving masks and we had a
funeral to do, you know, so

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we're in the back end. You
know, when you're an alter boy,

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you gotta put like three or four
of those freaking robes on, you know,

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you got to look something like an
Iron main video back then, you

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know. And uh, we were
hungry, man. We were there like

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seven thirty and we were like hungry. So we started eating the hosts before.

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We thought it was cool because they
weren't really Jesus's body yet. There

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were just some little crackers in a
bowl right there. They were fresh,

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right, so we started chowing on
those bad boys. Well, they make

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you incredibly thirsty. Yes. And
back then, bro, we didn't have

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watercoolers, so you got to go
outside into the parking lot school parking lot

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with and drink out of the fountain
where it's like ground coolness, so it's

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like warm. Yeah, and it
was just bad news. We went back

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in and it was like we had
paste in our mouth. So we decided

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to drink some of the priests to
earnest and Julio sweetness. Oh yeah,

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and we got popped by a priest
while we were chun It was about the

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first That was the first time I
was with alcohol. After that, it

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was just like I graduated from wine
to beer. Then beer kind of you

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know, makes you go pee all
the time, and I was like,

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well that's a bust, you know. Yeah, I can't go home always

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peeing. My mom will know what's
cracking, right, So I kept drinking

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beer and I kept having a pee. I was like fifteen years old.

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My mom finally figured it out.
You know, you better not be drinking.

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So then I started doing cocaine.
That way, cocaine would keep damped

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up. Oh yeah, man,
I was doing cocaine, marijuana, mushrooms,

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acid, Holy crosstops, black beauties. Yeah. I started partying hardy

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early. Bro. I definitely lived
the lifestyle of the rock and roll you

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know what I mean, sex drudge
of rock and roll. So then alcohol

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was that first drug, bro,
and I found that. I you know,

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when you're young, you know,
you you don't have what it takes

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to handle alcohol. So man,
you get smashed right away, like hardcore.

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You know. One time I was
like sixteen and we went to the

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we went to remember we went to
the Fiesta four driving. Oh yes,

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I remember. Then we were chugging
a pony cake, and you know,

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my mom knew. We went to
the Sage to the movies, and they

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dropped me off and they left me
at the door. I was so hammered

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and my mom had to find me
on the front porch. Nice passed out

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soon drunk, vomit all over my
Judas Pillard. Oh yeah, man,

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I got grounded, probably for about
a month. But she had no idea.

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I was sneaking out the back bedroom
window and I was just cranking on

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my music inside with a lock inside
within SnSe so it sounded like I was

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in my room, but I was
real yell cousin having you ever find that

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people that are drunk always are the
hardest to wake up. Yes, like

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they're okay, even drunk, they're
okay, even when you know they're sleepy,

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they're okay. But if you let
them close the rise for any more

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than one second, they're done.
They're done. Yeah, And you can

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throw a rock at their forehead.
They're not waking them. They'll wake up

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and they'll say something obnoxious and they
won't remember it, or they'll wake up

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to say, I want some pancakes. Oh yeah, Oh, I want

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I want some del taco. Oh
yeah, oh del taco. That reminds

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me of you walking through the through
the populne the parking at a super at

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two in the morning. Yeah,
down telegraph over there and instead of his

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springs. That's right. If you
are just joining us here at back to

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the eighties radio, we are talking
about some of the experiences that we had.

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Of course we make them sound funny, but they weren't necessarily the brightest

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ideas. Our first experiences with some
of the stuff that adults used to do

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back then, in my case was
alcohol. And by the way, in

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chang that you mentioned drugs at an
early age. The first time I saw

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cocaine was a kid in the second
grade brought a little vial that belonged to

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his brother that was lit. Bastard
shooting. I must have been. It

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must have been like nineteen eighty one, nineteen eighty nineteen eighty one. Is

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a little brown vial, but they're
clear, but the color is brown of

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the vile, real small and you
can see the white inside. And he

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goes, this is my my buddy, goes, this is my brothers.

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He goes, this is cocaine,
and he goes, I'm gonna put it

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up my nose right now, and
and I go, he goes, do

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you want someone? I'll go,
no way, that's bad. You know,

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I can imagine. I don't have
no idea what how I answered,

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But I told him no way.
And I went directly to my teacher and

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I said, it's cocaine bad for
you. And they that was the first

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question of my teacher. Oh,
because uh, Lewis is in the bathroom

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and he stold his brothers little cocaine
and he's in the bad. Well,

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my buddy got suspended from school.
The police went to look for his brother.

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Man, that's just a bad high. Yeah. Hey, I had

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no idea. So I was a
little snitch that moment. But hey,

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I had no idea, you know
what I mean. That was my first

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experience with that. You know,
it's crazy. My first experience, uh,

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with cocaine came upon. I'm not
gonna give any names, but I

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had a and that was a drug
dealer. And I used to go hang

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out with my cousins quite a bit, like when I was fifteen, you

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know, fifteen and all to high
school. Yeah. Uh, and my

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cousin he was pretty known where he
was from. Everybody knew the brothers you

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know, my cousins were some pretty
known casts. We had a We had

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a great time. I love him
all like brothers, and I'll never forget

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me and my cousin, his younger
brother, who was my age. I

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won't give my cousin's name in case
he's listening, but I know he remembers.

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We went to go see his brother
and we wanted to get some bud

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because we were gonna go out,
and we're gonna go party at a place

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called Flaptops, which was between Also
and uh Pasadena, that area, yeah,

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of l A and UH. We
went to his pad and we got

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some weed and he was like,
hey man, and we're have a couple

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of beers with me before I cut
out. So we're drinking Low and Brows

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and Mickey's. Now, by this
time, me and my cousin were already

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professional drinkers and professional marijuana smokers.
We're just over the age of fifteen,

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almost at sixteen. Yeah, there's
no that we were drinking Mickey's brother.

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We were drinking Mickey's and while Turkey
Low and brawl, heinees came into Yeah.

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I started very young, bro,
and I I'm not condoning what I

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did and I'm not glorifying it.
So anybody out there listening, I can

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think it's cool or or go out
and try it. I'm merely giving you

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my comical spin on some of the
stupidity that I did. Yeah. Well,

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anyway, we went to my cousin's
pad and he literally bent our arms

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behind our backs and made us do
our first line of blow. From then

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on, braw, it was boom
you were you got to It was like

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it was a necessity of every weekend. You know what I mean, It

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was a necessity. Let me ask
you, because I've never I've never done

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it, but um, is this
something that because I hear different stories from

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different people. Some people, I
guess it catches them right away. Some

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people it doesn't. You think the
majority of people it catches you, like

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it gets you hooked the first time. Yeah, you know why, bro

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is they call it chasing the dry
because you are always in chase of that

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same feeling that you got the first
time that you ingested it, which is

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so you're which is a total joy. You feel over joy or you feel

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empowered. Uh, you feel you
in a weird way, a little bit

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sexual, a little bit stronger,
a little bit less in touch with reality.

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You think you're you think you're more
powerful than what you really are,

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right, So that type of feeling, that type of a rush, you

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know, it becomes addicting. So
when you do use, you're constantly trying

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to get back that that feeling again. But you know, it really doesn't

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come back. You know, you
can do it and do it and do

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it, you'll get it, but
you'll never get the same feeling. Right,

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they call it chasing the dragon.
Yeah. And also one of the

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one of the things that make it
reminds me of because that dopamine goes up

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so high, Right, one of
the things in the eighties that really brought

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up that dopamine in your brain was
music. And I guess exactly, I

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guess that's why it went so well
with rock music. Yeah. And I

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would say and I would say it
went so well, not in a good

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way. I'm not glorified. I'm
just saying why it was so accepted was

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because of the high that you got
with that and the high that you get

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with music. Yeah. But yeah, you know, if we we're talking

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about that at a good point,
you brought that out. If you go

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back into the era, probably with
your parents, my parents. My dad

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listened to cats like Kenniball, Addery, Billy Holliday, you know, old

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school, uh kind of blues,
jazz, soul, big band. A

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lot of people back then we're using
marijuana and heroin. And it's odd because

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in rock and roll, you know, because it stayed heroin, marijuana,

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alcohol, cocaine, and phetamines.
So with the vibe has always been there.

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I think when it comes into musicians
and drugs, just different generations,

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different rors brought out different drugs and
different type of vibes that guys people were

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using. Yeah, but it's just
along the same line, bro. It

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is very easy, you know what
I mean, when you're all pumped up

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on rock and roll to just sex
drugs on rock and roll, right right.

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Yeah. And it's interesting because in
the eighties, as we and you'll

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hear this if you're just joining us, you'll hear this up ahead in the

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program, as we interview Mark Mason
from Ampage, you'll hear how the eighties

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as an era, it was a
place where everything was done in access and

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everything from the music to the movies, to the relationships to the heartaches,

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even the food. Back then much
bigger food when it comes to drugs and

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alcohol. Then when you get people
like the President of the United States and

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his wife with a new program called
Say No to Drugs or just Say No,

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I think was the program. Yeah, just say No and yeah monkey

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Boy, Yeah and yeah, and
it really hit it really hit hard,

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uh, in a in a successful
way. I guess the school system,

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right, I mean, everybody in
schools were aware of that program. It

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brought a lot of the good concept
and the and the models of parenthood together.

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It did make some money for the
school's programs. But you know,

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we're tonight we're going to dig deep
into the nitty and the gritty, the

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dirty and the funny. But it's
funny because you brought up the monkey president

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to Ronald Reagan and him and Nancy's
a supposed war on drugs Just say No.

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And it's quite peculiar because if you
look at research and history, they

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were hanging out with some of the
big name drug cartels that were smuggling cocaine

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and heroin marijuana into our country.
And they were also giving weapons and taking

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cash payments for helicopters to drop this
stuff off. You know, in areas

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that were decimal, were there,
No, we're no people. Back in

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the eighties, crack cocaine came out
in crack cocaine was actually a drug that

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was made by the government and supposedly
told that let's put it into poor communities

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hands so we can start killing off
the herd. So it's very funny that

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you bring up Ronald Reagan and we
are talking about this tonight on the eighties,

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because you know, you have the
good, the bad, and the

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ugly sure of all drugs where they
kind of started at the magnitude they took

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and kind of, you know,
hopefully we give you some real stories on

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what it what it really was like
back in the eighties with the drug war

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and what what you could easily fall
into when you use drugs. But let

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me let me ask you a question, because you were older than I was

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in the eighties, in the early
eighties, you were you know, you

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you graduated high school in eighty three. I was barely you know, eleven

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years old and eighty three. Yeah, And so what about those people that

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are saying, oh, come on, it wasn't the government who started this

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all you know, it was at
wi or Ze. But don't blame don't

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blame the president, he was trying
to do something positive. What would you

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say. I mean, your father
was an activist, and he was somebody

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who was you know, sought after
as well for what he knew as well.

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And you've seen, you've seen deep
behind the enemy lines, right,

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I would tell that person to stop
hiding behind a flag just for a second

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or two, to hold accountability where
accountability needs to be held, and that

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is with our political leaders. And
then we find that very true today people

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are very easily to conform around their
political beliefs and lose their moral code.

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And I think when you lose your
moral code, you're lost your fake And

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anybody that would say you cannot blame
Reagan, well you cannot blame Reagan for

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maybe the individual that you knew that
overdosed, or the individuals that was drunk

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or did some dope and killed somebody
that you loved in a traffic accident.

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But you can surely say the root
of all evil came from where the evil

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came, and the evil came with
money and politics and power. And anybody

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that doesn't want to grasp that reality
is only full in yourself. And you're

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pretty much acting like a chipper Gore. You're acting like a Nancy Reagan.

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You're trying to make everything pretty in
one aspect and everything negative in the other

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aspect, when actually you know the
pretty and the negative on both sides.

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So you have to have accountability.
That's what I would tell that person.

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Right when you were in high school, were there, I mean, drugs

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running wild in high school? You
know what when I was in high school,

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drugs were running wild. You know, when I left parochial school in

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seventy nine, I went into a
high school which was Montabello High School,

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you know, right in the heart
and soul of the eighties. You're coming

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out of the seventies where you know, the seventies had disco music, and

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you know, people were already in
over at Studio fifty four dispoteque drugs are

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already making its appearance there. But
in the eighties, during my high school

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years, it seemed like drugs and
alcohol were easier to obtain kind of the

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social norm. Probably in essence,
it was kind of like a calm,

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friendly bulling. You know, oh, you don't party, whoa, you're

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stupid. But you know, they
referred to it always in a positive,

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always in a kind of inviting civil
kind of form. You know what I

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mean. Get together, people have
a good time. You're gon drink,

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you're gonna do some dope. Everything's
cool. Nobody ever thought about, you

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know that one person that maybe drank
too much as to go to er,

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gets in an accident that night,
loses their life at a young age.

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Nobody thinks about they did too much
dope and maybe they didn't come back out

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of it. Now, back in
the eighties, it was kind of glorified

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a lot more. Yeah, you
know what I mean. The bulling back

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then came if you didn't party,
but if you party a little bit,

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you were all cool for school.
They just told you, oh, you

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couldn't hang. And then the next
time there was a gathering and you were

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with people and people got loaded,
and that one individual that couldn't handle getting

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loaded was there. Usually people had
a tendency to kind of babysit. Then

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you know, Okay, you're gonna
party, but we'll take care of you.

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Yeah, And wouldn't you say I
mean as what I as far as

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what I've seen in my experience,
I mean, you don't you don't want

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it to be. But it seems
to me that Hollywood had a huge party

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in the in the promulgation or the
further end of the selling and the glorifying

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of drugs and alcohol. I mean
since the beginning, right, Oh,

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I totally agree. You're going in
the stand up comedy, you know,

407
00:31:44.400 --> 00:31:48.359
in my later years and seeing that
drugs had still had a presence to where

408
00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:52.319
it was kind of the norm,
kind of like everybody kind of did use

409
00:31:52.559 --> 00:31:56.119
or did use at one time.
It was very frequent, you know,

410
00:31:56.200 --> 00:32:00.240
when I was doing comedy, and
that was what two thousands, nineties that

411
00:32:00.359 --> 00:32:02.039
it was, you know, right
there in the rooms when you're going out

412
00:32:02.079 --> 00:32:06.319
before you go on stage. You
know, I part took. There was

413
00:32:06.359 --> 00:32:10.240
other comedians that I knew watching growing
up that were partaking same in the rock

414
00:32:10.319 --> 00:32:15.839
and roll music industry, you know, when I was hanging out in Hollywood

415
00:32:15.880 --> 00:32:17.160
in the eighties. I mean you
go to the Rainbow, you go to

416
00:32:17.240 --> 00:32:22.720
the Whiskey, you go to the
True Bador. I mean any any club

417
00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:24.519
you went to the Roxy, you
can go to the bathroom, and nine

418
00:32:24.559 --> 00:32:29.559
times out of ten you're gonna be
somebody seeing somebody cracking rails on a table.

419
00:32:30.319 --> 00:32:34.079
Maybe in the bathroom, you're gonna
be out in one of those parking

420
00:32:34.119 --> 00:32:37.440
bucks. You're gonna be cracking rails, You're gonna be smoking crack, You're

421
00:32:37.480 --> 00:32:39.920
gonna be hot spooning it, and
some people are gonna be shooting up in

422
00:32:39.920 --> 00:32:44.400
the corner. Everybody's hutually smoking some
bud. Have you ever seen the movie

423
00:32:44.440 --> 00:32:49.400
American Cycle. Yes, it was
kind of like very much exactly like that,

424
00:32:50.279 --> 00:32:52.680
you know what I mean, And
a lot of people get lost that.

425
00:32:52.839 --> 00:32:54.519
You know, you have the rich
man drugs and the poor man drugs,

426
00:32:54.799 --> 00:32:59.680
And that was true in the beginning, but later on in life,

427
00:32:59.759 --> 00:33:04.000
I mean, everybody's drug of choice
was everybody's drug of choice. Prices went

428
00:33:04.079 --> 00:33:07.640
down, demand went up. So
if demand goes up, and if you

429
00:33:07.720 --> 00:33:10.720
can make some money off of maybe
three cats as opposed to one cat,

430
00:33:12.160 --> 00:33:15.680
you're gonna make that money because that's
three return customers as opposed to the big

431
00:33:15.720 --> 00:33:20.160
wig buying a fat eight ball for
himself. When you can get three cats

432
00:33:20.200 --> 00:33:23.119
out there, it will buy a
teener and you're selling the same eight ball,

433
00:33:23.400 --> 00:33:27.880
but you've got three people hooked.
That's three more customers and more.

434
00:33:28.200 --> 00:33:31.200
Yeah, you know, chang one
of the one of my biggest reasons for

435
00:33:31.319 --> 00:33:37.799
getting upset at a lot of people
who just put down the person who's addicted

436
00:33:37.839 --> 00:33:40.799
to drugs without helping them. Okay, one of the biggest reasons I get

437
00:33:40.880 --> 00:33:45.880
mad is because a lot of the
people that don't understand because they've never been

438
00:33:45.960 --> 00:33:50.680
in the same shoes as that person, they don't realize how hard it must

439
00:33:50.759 --> 00:33:55.799
be. They are also hypocrites in
many cases because they're doing other stuff.

440
00:33:55.839 --> 00:34:02.720
For example, some of the people
that were harshest on the criticizing people that

441
00:34:02.839 --> 00:34:07.760
were addicted to drugs and alcohol are
people who were addicted to smoking and and

442
00:34:07.880 --> 00:34:15.000
I'm talking smoking cigarettes, which which
have probably taken more lives than any other

443
00:34:15.119 --> 00:34:17.920
exact you know what I mean,
And smoking, like you said, the

444
00:34:19.119 --> 00:34:22.519
number one addiction. Yeah, that
between that and the hard alcohol, I

445
00:34:22.559 --> 00:34:25.559
would say. But the government will
try to ban things, for example,

446
00:34:25.719 --> 00:34:30.639
like cannabis, right, yes,
they try to day to this day.

447
00:34:30.840 --> 00:34:39.199
Right. I don't remember one case
of anyone overdosing on weed anybody. Now.

448
00:34:39.400 --> 00:34:43.960
I'm not condoning that. I'm not
saying it's good. I'm just you

449
00:34:44.039 --> 00:34:45.840
know, well, that's for another
show. A lot of these people that

450
00:34:45.960 --> 00:34:51.679
are critics are people that are hooked
on cigarettes, which is made in some

451
00:34:51.880 --> 00:34:55.800
cases These people were doing something worse
than the people that were getting caught with

452
00:34:57.960 --> 00:35:01.199
one little cigarette with weed and being
sent to three years in jails. I

453
00:35:01.320 --> 00:35:05.880
mean ridiculous, you know what?
Bringing that on that note, my friend,

454
00:35:06.440 --> 00:35:09.360
the toxic range of a cigarette.
An individual could be smoking at home

455
00:35:09.400 --> 00:35:15.360
and d giving toxic fumes to their
children, their wife, guests, and

456
00:35:15.639 --> 00:35:19.119
in our era, I'm sure your
dad might have smoked, maybe your mom,

457
00:35:19.199 --> 00:35:22.280
Maybe you had some uncles, all
those Italian mobsters you hung around with.

458
00:35:22.679 --> 00:35:23.920
You had to tell you cannot tell
me you were not in the room

459
00:35:24.000 --> 00:35:28.280
full of cigarette smoke. Yea once
in a while, yeah, once in

460
00:35:28.360 --> 00:35:30.679
a while, but I found out. For example, my dad used to

461
00:35:30.760 --> 00:35:35.440
like smoking on once in a while. He wasn't really hooked on cigarettes.

462
00:35:36.440 --> 00:35:40.440
He did once in a while he
was smoked, true. Or he liked

463
00:35:40.480 --> 00:35:45.480
smoking pipes because I told him to
smoke pipe well, just like Popeye,

464
00:35:45.519 --> 00:35:47.960
because I wanted him to be like
Popeye. Right. But my uncle's used

465
00:35:47.960 --> 00:35:52.079
to smoke cigars and my dad once
in a while would smoke a cigar.

466
00:35:52.239 --> 00:35:57.320
But my dad was he goes,
no, then it gets you drunk if

467
00:35:57.360 --> 00:36:00.599
you smoke it fast. And I'd
rather spend that that good, hard earned

468
00:36:00.639 --> 00:36:05.000
money at the horses. So yeah, you know, and then I tried

469
00:36:05.039 --> 00:36:07.679
smoking a cigar one time that a
buddy of mine, I forgot what buddy

470
00:36:07.719 --> 00:36:13.320
it was his bachelor party, yeah
you know, and I was kind of

471
00:36:13.360 --> 00:36:16.519
the only guy that still partook in
the parting ways as opposed to all these

472
00:36:16.599 --> 00:36:20.159
guys I had, you know,
grown up with. So I was the

473
00:36:20.239 --> 00:36:22.760
only one that was rolling up a
dollar bill and you know what I mean,

474
00:36:23.360 --> 00:36:27.599
walking around and singing songs. So
wait a second. So if anybody's

475
00:36:27.599 --> 00:36:31.679
seen American Pie when they're when they're
already old and they get married, you

476
00:36:31.800 --> 00:36:36.400
were like the stiff meister, still
wanting to party like the old times and

477
00:36:36.440 --> 00:36:39.599
everybody's holding their baby listening to Kenny
g Yeah. Now, I'll just tell

478
00:36:39.639 --> 00:36:43.880
you anybody that has seen the movie
The Wolf of Wall Street, YEA,

479
00:36:44.039 --> 00:36:49.760
been there, done that. If
you can understand any of that that I

480
00:36:49.880 --> 00:36:52.920
just shot at you, they've done
that. Yeah yeah, but uh,

481
00:36:52.360 --> 00:36:54.840
you know, we were there and
my buddy, you know, hey,

482
00:36:54.960 --> 00:36:59.280
we all have to have a cigar
now, And I took a couple of

483
00:36:59.360 --> 00:37:01.960
hits of the cigar are and I
started puking. Yeah yeah, And I

484
00:37:02.039 --> 00:37:06.639
would just and I could never do
another cigar after that. Half of my

485
00:37:06.760 --> 00:37:08.920
head hurt because I was trying to
hit it like a joint, you know,

486
00:37:09.079 --> 00:37:13.119
to taste that sweetness, and half
of my head hurt, and then

487
00:37:13.159 --> 00:37:15.639
I would just puke in and then
I had a headache. And I was

488
00:37:15.639 --> 00:37:16.639
like, man, you know what, I don't care if you're getting married.

489
00:37:16.639 --> 00:37:20.239
I'm going on home. And they
were like, what's the matter with

490
00:37:20.400 --> 00:37:22.960
you? Yeah? So I went
and I got in my car, in

491
00:37:22.039 --> 00:37:23.920
my truck, and I sat there
for a minute and I was like,

492
00:37:24.079 --> 00:37:29.679
man, I can't do that.
The one and Only Back to the eighties.

493
00:37:29.719 --> 00:37:32.239
We're gonna be right back with a
little bit more talk of the bad

494
00:37:32.320 --> 00:37:40.440
stuff that we all joined the eighties. You're listening to Back to the eighties.

495
00:37:40.880 --> 00:37:45.639
What I thought that this country,
You've got to make the money first.

496
00:37:46.280 --> 00:37:50.559
Then when you get the money,
you get the fower. Then you

497
00:37:50.639 --> 00:37:53.480
get a fower, then you get
the woman. Now back to good,

498
00:37:53.599 --> 00:38:00.519
wholesome, politically correct entertainment. Oops, wrong station, No, Back to

499
00:38:00.639 --> 00:38:08.719
the eighties with Tuscano and che You're
listening to the one and only Back to

500
00:38:08.760 --> 00:38:15.679
the eighties radio show with the one
and Only Tescanto and Chang. We were

501
00:38:15.760 --> 00:38:19.760
talking about and continue talking about some
of the bad stuff that we used to

502
00:38:19.840 --> 00:38:24.440
do back in the eighties. And
it's funny because we were talking about drugs

503
00:38:24.519 --> 00:38:31.119
and alcohol and how certain people that
condemned the drug drug and alcohol addicted person

504
00:38:32.519 --> 00:38:38.760
was guilty themselves of being cigarette addicts, but they didn't consider that being anything

505
00:38:39.159 --> 00:38:46.199
as bad quote unquote as bad as
doing drugs n hardcore alcohol. Do you

506
00:38:46.320 --> 00:38:50.480
remember, I'll never forget there used
to be do you used to be a

507
00:38:50.599 --> 00:38:55.039
location in southern California where there were
a couple of different names, but one

508
00:38:55.079 --> 00:39:01.840
of them was called Chick Center Shick
Center. Shick Center was supposed to be

509
00:39:02.239 --> 00:39:07.800
a center that would allow you to
go in and obviously it would guarantee you're

510
00:39:07.800 --> 00:39:12.039
gonna stop smoking. So I had
a teacher, Yeah, I had a

511
00:39:12.119 --> 00:39:15.119
teacher in junior high who had gone
to Shick Center and he said it was

512
00:39:15.159 --> 00:39:19.599
the best thing he ever done.
And it does work. And by the

513
00:39:19.639 --> 00:39:22.239
way, Shick Center is no longer
an operation. You're going to quickly find

514
00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:28.280
out why. Probably more people died, Probably more people died at center than

515
00:39:28.760 --> 00:39:34.000
than smoking. But oh well,
this is what happens. This is according

516
00:39:34.079 --> 00:39:37.440
to my uh, teacher, this
is what they did to him. I

517
00:39:37.519 --> 00:39:42.320
don't know if anybody else's experience was
different, but my teacher said that he

518
00:39:42.519 --> 00:39:45.920
was a three pack a day addict. Okay, what was his name,

519
00:39:46.960 --> 00:39:52.599
mister Paulson. Okay, mister Paulson. He's probably dead. Uh no,

520
00:39:53.519 --> 00:39:59.679
he is, he's dead. So
but you imagine three packs a day.

521
00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:02.079
Right, there's people that smoke more
a carton a day. Are two cartons

522
00:40:02.119 --> 00:40:05.800
a day? Yeah, so he
was a three pack a day. Dude.

523
00:40:06.360 --> 00:40:08.199
How many cigarettes in a in a
pack? I don't know, twelve

524
00:40:08.360 --> 00:40:13.360
fifteen, I don't know a lot. Have somebody hit us on Facebook with

525
00:40:13.440 --> 00:40:15.039
how many cigarettes during a pack?
I have no idea. We don't smoke,

526
00:40:15.079 --> 00:40:19.840
so I don't have no idea.
So he said that he, you

527
00:40:19.920 --> 00:40:23.000
know, registered himself into ships center
and said, okay, sir, go

528
00:40:23.119 --> 00:40:28.519
ahead and come in on a Saturday. And he came in on a Saturday

529
00:40:29.199 --> 00:40:34.400
and they took him to this little
room. It was maybe three three okay,

530
00:40:34.800 --> 00:40:38.039
we're talking. There was you know
those school chairs, elementary school chairs.

531
00:40:38.320 --> 00:40:44.000
Yes, they were little wood.
It was wooden with metals, so

532
00:40:44.079 --> 00:40:47.880
they're really heavy, right. I
remember they had a school chair and a

533
00:40:49.000 --> 00:40:52.960
school desk. That's all they had
at the end. There was no windows

534
00:40:52.440 --> 00:40:57.360
in this place. And on top
of the desk they had an entire carton.

535
00:40:58.039 --> 00:41:04.800
They had no they they had an
entire carton of cigarettes. Right.

536
00:41:05.199 --> 00:41:08.360
They asked him what brand of cigarettes
do you smoke? And he said camel

537
00:41:08.760 --> 00:41:13.519
right, So on top of the
desk, of course, he had a

538
00:41:13.559 --> 00:41:19.599
paid to go into shick center,
a lot of money. So well,

539
00:41:19.679 --> 00:41:22.119
no, no, no, no, let me tell you. So they

540
00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:25.880
said, here's the carton of cigarettes. Go ahead and enjoy. And he

541
00:41:27.039 --> 00:41:30.679
said what he said, go ahead
and enjoy. The carton's all yours.

542
00:41:31.280 --> 00:41:35.960
He goes, wait a second,
I just paid because I want to quit

543
00:41:36.039 --> 00:41:39.320
smoking. And they said trust him, and they said, yeah, go

544
00:41:39.360 --> 00:41:45.079
ahead and enjoy. So they closed
the door. He had his first pack

545
00:41:45.719 --> 00:41:50.199
and he was starting to cough at
this point because there's no windows. So

546
00:41:50.360 --> 00:41:52.599
when he tried to open the door, he could not open the door.

547
00:41:52.480 --> 00:41:57.159
He knocked and they said, I'm
sorry, sir, you're not allowed out

548
00:41:57.360 --> 00:42:02.719
until you smoke the entire carton.
Oh so some type of reverse like it,

549
00:42:02.960 --> 00:42:07.480
right, So he had to smoke
the entire carton. Can you imagine

550
00:42:07.559 --> 00:42:12.880
in this little room with no windows, and he smoked that entire carton.

551
00:42:13.519 --> 00:42:16.840
Obviously, he threw up all over
the chair, the desk. It was

552
00:42:16.960 --> 00:42:22.760
disgusting, and they said, thank
you, come again tomorrow, it'll be

553
00:42:22.119 --> 00:42:25.840
again. He said it'll be.
They said it'll be totally different. And

554
00:42:27.400 --> 00:42:29.440
so when he went in the very
next day, they put him in a

555
00:42:29.519 --> 00:42:35.880
different room, same chair, the
same chair, and they locked him in

556
00:42:35.960 --> 00:42:42.320
there and it was a different,
different carton of camel son. Hey,

557
00:42:42.519 --> 00:42:45.960
can you imagine those guys are going
chuck, get a load of this idiot.

558
00:42:45.039 --> 00:42:47.320
He's gonna do it again, just
like last time. This guy.

559
00:42:47.679 --> 00:42:51.440
Can you believe this guy's a school
teacher. This guy is a tool.

560
00:42:51.760 --> 00:42:55.199
So by the time he was halfway
done with that second carton, he said,

561
00:42:55.239 --> 00:43:00.639
he threw up so much. Oh, he never again had lifted up

562
00:43:00.760 --> 00:43:06.400
another cigarette for the entire life.
So the way they do it, yeah,

563
00:43:06.559 --> 00:43:09.360
is because they put you in that
little room and you're inhaling and their

564
00:43:09.400 --> 00:43:14.559
own crap. Yeah, you're stuck
there. You can't go pee, and

565
00:43:14.760 --> 00:43:20.480
you can't go to the bathroom unless
you do it there, and you cannot

566
00:43:20.519 --> 00:43:25.320
come out on the floors defecate your
camels out. That's correct. So it's

567
00:43:25.320 --> 00:43:30.159
almost in similarity too, like Scared
Straight. You remember that program right rol

568
00:43:30.199 --> 00:43:34.320
back in the eighties and Scared Straight. When you have a troubled teen or

569
00:43:34.719 --> 00:43:38.119
a big mouth punk ass pool that
thinks he's badass or she thinks she's badass,

570
00:43:38.159 --> 00:43:42.039
and you put him there with prisoners
and they get threatened with getting their

571
00:43:42.039 --> 00:43:45.719
ass beat or their tennis shoes taken
or violated sexually. Kind of something like

572
00:43:45.840 --> 00:43:51.320
that started at what but and it
worked. But the problem is with Shick

573
00:43:51.440 --> 00:43:55.519
Center is that they had a few
people die on them so well, they

574
00:43:55.559 --> 00:44:00.360
had heart attacks in their little room
and they never came out chuck this once,

575
00:44:00.400 --> 00:44:02.280
not breathing. We got a dead
one in here. But they stopped

576
00:44:02.280 --> 00:44:06.719
smoking, so I guess stopped smoking. At least we can tell his wife,

577
00:44:06.760 --> 00:44:09.639
Hey, he stopped smoking before he
died of a massive coronary. To

578
00:44:09.840 --> 00:44:13.960
be happy, ladies and gentlemen.
I'm sorry that I'm making a little bit

579
00:44:13.960 --> 00:44:16.400
of fun of it, but I'm
not making fun of the person who passed

580
00:44:16.440 --> 00:44:22.920
away. I am enjoying the fact
that how people were coming up with some

581
00:44:23.079 --> 00:44:29.079
ideas and making themselves multi millionaires to
have an attic. Stop being an attic

582
00:44:29.119 --> 00:44:31.559
anyway, you know what's funny You
bring up that topic and you're just nailing

583
00:44:31.639 --> 00:44:36.119
a brother, And I'm so glad
that you're bringing out cigarette smoke as something

584
00:44:36.440 --> 00:44:42.679
that is addicting and you know,
life consuming. But you know TV shows

585
00:44:42.679 --> 00:44:46.719
that I'm sure that you and me
watch reruns of Lucy My Three Sons,

586
00:44:47.719 --> 00:44:51.039
shows like that, Bro, that
we were watching that were made in the

587
00:44:51.119 --> 00:44:53.440
sixties and seventies. Get smart.
People were lighting up and it was okay.

588
00:44:54.000 --> 00:44:58.920
It made it okay. They made
it look confine that yeah. But

589
00:44:59.079 --> 00:45:01.159
yet the eighties came, you know, Bro, right, the eighties,

590
00:45:01.559 --> 00:45:06.960
and it glorified the drug world.
Saturday Night Live was talking about drugs.

591
00:45:07.719 --> 00:45:13.719
Mary Tyler Moore was talking about drugs. Uh Company, had a little bit

592
00:45:13.760 --> 00:45:20.920
of drug game, Miami Vice,
and these shows were all made to kind

593
00:45:20.960 --> 00:45:24.000
of make comical fun of the stupidity
and the wrongness of drugs. Correct.

594
00:45:24.320 --> 00:45:28.079
But yet some of these characters,
Bro, were lighting up on the side

595
00:45:28.079 --> 00:45:30.760
of a car and not having to
care into the world. How many times

596
00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:35.159
did the kids like us go to
family events or go to these restaurants,

597
00:45:35.199 --> 00:45:38.199
Bro, and everybody was smoking yea. But yet you know what I mean,

598
00:45:38.320 --> 00:45:40.960
if you went out there and you
were outside cot smoking a joint,

599
00:45:42.480 --> 00:45:45.559
or you were out there putting some
powder up your nose or having a drink.

600
00:45:45.239 --> 00:45:47.440
You were like, Oh, that's
bad, You're gonna die. You're

601
00:45:47.519 --> 00:45:52.000
just a bad guy, right,
And you know what's funny, real real

602
00:45:52.079 --> 00:45:55.280
quick. I remember getting arrested for
possession of marijuana at one time. It

603
00:45:55.440 --> 00:46:01.920
happened in the city of I believe
it was San Gabriel, Rosemead, and

604
00:46:02.639 --> 00:46:07.280
I was pretty young. I think
it was twenty and I was driving home

605
00:46:07.320 --> 00:46:09.599
from work. I got pulled over
in my truck because of the way I

606
00:46:09.719 --> 00:46:15.000
looked. That's another story anyway.
And I had just some roaches in my

607
00:46:15.119 --> 00:46:19.440
ashtray in my Toyota four biots.
And for those who don't know what roaches

608
00:46:19.480 --> 00:46:23.760
are, they are wetching. Those
are the remnants of a marijuana cigarette known

609
00:46:23.840 --> 00:46:29.760
as a joint, which we call
roaches because they actually looked like roaches with

610
00:46:29.880 --> 00:46:34.400
no legs, but they are very
dark with resin after the marijuana cigarette has

611
00:46:34.440 --> 00:46:37.039
been lit. Thank you for clearing
that up. Ha ha, that's good

612
00:46:37.079 --> 00:46:42.280
stuff right there. So anyway,
they carted me off roa to jail and

613
00:46:42.400 --> 00:46:45.920
I'm in the back of the cop
car with tight bracelets on getting treated like

614
00:46:45.119 --> 00:46:49.920
I just mugged the hell out of
somebody for having weed in my car and

615
00:46:50.000 --> 00:46:52.719
I'm not even intoxicated. But I
have the hair, I have the cut

616
00:46:52.760 --> 00:46:57.199
off shirts similar to what I'm wearing
now, But I had to look that

617
00:46:57.360 --> 00:47:00.440
fit the description. Both these stupid
cop had an air con car, which

618
00:47:00.559 --> 00:47:05.079
was cool because I was hot.
But they were both smoking cigarettes, so

619
00:47:05.239 --> 00:47:09.159
they had no problem with infecting me
in that cop car from the crucial drive

620
00:47:09.239 --> 00:47:15.360
to Rosemead to monor a park in
an air conditioned car where everything is just

621
00:47:15.519 --> 00:47:19.840
going in the same motion, or
cigarettes, and they were taking me to

622
00:47:19.960 --> 00:47:24.400
freaking jail for having roaches that I
didn't even smokes. That's the system for

623
00:47:24.559 --> 00:47:29.119
you. The hypocrisy of the system. Yeah, that is correct. And

624
00:47:29.599 --> 00:47:31.440
on that note, you know,
I do want to bring up if you

625
00:47:31.639 --> 00:47:37.239
want to know a little bit more
about some of the hypocrisy that it goes

626
00:47:37.280 --> 00:47:40.840
on with the whole cannabis section,
you go ahead and go to YouTube and

627
00:47:40.920 --> 00:47:45.719
check out the cost of cannabis when
you get a chance, the cost of

628
00:47:45.760 --> 00:47:49.519
cannabis, because it'll it'll open your
eyes to a lot of things that we

629
00:47:49.679 --> 00:47:52.719
thought were wrong and a lot of
things that we thought were right back then.

630
00:47:52.000 --> 00:47:54.719
And this goes way way back.
It'll give you a little bit of

631
00:47:54.800 --> 00:48:00.760
a history lesson chang Yes, this
is now the time of the show all

632
00:48:01.400 --> 00:48:06.400
when we talk about those things that
made us angry back in the eighties,

633
00:48:06.760 --> 00:48:12.360
but in honor of you and honor
you, we now call them changry.

634
00:48:12.559 --> 00:48:16.800
So chang hat myself on the back
real quick. What made you changry back

635
00:48:16.840 --> 00:48:21.119
in the eighties? Do you know
what made me changry back in the eighties?

636
00:48:21.119 --> 00:48:23.760
And I'm going to dedicate these changries
to our talk on drugs and the

637
00:48:24.239 --> 00:48:27.760
good and the bad and the ugly
of drugs. You know what got me

638
00:48:27.960 --> 00:48:32.559
changry back in the eighties when it
came to smoking joints. Somebody that went

639
00:48:32.679 --> 00:48:37.800
to joint and they lifted it all
up. Tool was what you couldn't get

640
00:48:37.800 --> 00:48:40.679
another hit? I beg that was
okay. You know what else made me

641
00:48:40.760 --> 00:48:45.199
changry back in the eighties? What
going to an alley to buy marijuana and

642
00:48:45.280 --> 00:48:50.840
getting a bag of stem seeds.
You know what else got me changry back

643
00:48:51.280 --> 00:48:55.000
in the eighties? Yeah, when
I snormed a mind of proving it and

644
00:48:55.119 --> 00:49:00.000
it made me poop and not feel
the rush. That's you know what got

645
00:49:00.039 --> 00:49:05.320
me changry back in the eighties when
it came to drugs and alcohol. Yeah,

646
00:49:05.679 --> 00:49:13.239
when you had to be oh,
look at that guy. You know

647
00:49:13.360 --> 00:49:16.119
what made me changry back in the
eighties talking about drugs and alcohol? What

648
00:49:16.960 --> 00:49:23.360
no one? Probably dark beer and
that lady and gentleman has been this week's

649
00:49:23.760 --> 00:49:27.760
Changers. If you have anything that
you'd like to talk to us about that

650
00:49:27.880 --> 00:49:30.239
made you angry back in the eighties, go ahead and send us a message

651
00:49:30.239 --> 00:49:32.840
to our Facebook page and will be
more than happy to have chang read your

652
00:49:32.960 --> 00:49:37.239
changery on. By the way,
that reminds me. You know, one

653
00:49:37.280 --> 00:49:39.559
time, I try to act like
I did weed right that that was gonna

654
00:49:39.639 --> 00:49:43.800
smoke weed, and I brought in
a little ziploc bag back then, I

655
00:49:43.880 --> 00:49:50.000
put a bunch of my mom's to
reganel typical Italian, and I lit it

656
00:49:50.119 --> 00:49:52.079
up for my friends and they're like, because it smells like weed right when

657
00:49:52.079 --> 00:49:57.719
you light it up. But you're
just smoking yourself a little herb literal,

658
00:49:57.800 --> 00:50:00.679
that's all you're doing. And then
you're going, hey, I could go

659
00:50:00.800 --> 00:50:04.000
for a pizza right Well, just
for some reason, I can go through

660
00:50:04.079 --> 00:50:06.719
some pasta. Jeez, I can
go for some pasta. You know what,

661
00:50:06.880 --> 00:50:08.840
some garlic bread sounds good about right
now? You know, we do

662
00:50:08.960 --> 00:50:12.760
have a very special guest coming up
and Chang's gonna tell you more about it.

663
00:50:13.199 --> 00:50:15.360
Ladies and gentlemen, coming up on
back to the eighties. That's right,

664
00:50:15.400 --> 00:50:19.360
we have not stopped. We are
going to keep going full throttle because

665
00:50:19.360 --> 00:50:22.760
we are going to give you eighties
in a nutshell. Coming up, we

666
00:50:22.039 --> 00:50:25.920
have the lead singer of a band
that came out in nineteen eighty seven,

667
00:50:27.440 --> 00:50:31.199
made a couple of albums in the
nineties, changed their entire cast, and

668
00:50:31.360 --> 00:50:36.360
that is the band called Ampage.
We have the lead singer, Mark Mason

669
00:50:36.519 --> 00:50:39.159
coming on with us. He's going
to open up about what the band is

670
00:50:39.199 --> 00:50:44.239
doing now, who's in the band, who left the band. Also,

671
00:50:44.280 --> 00:50:47.199
he's going to discuss a little bit
of his struggles in his era. So

672
00:50:47.400 --> 00:50:52.079
you stay locked and loaded to back
to the eighties. Hopefully you're getting your

673
00:50:52.159 --> 00:50:55.519
feel to feel okay? Is that
not right? Toiscano percent back to the

674
00:50:55.559 --> 00:51:00.440
eighties Radio. We'll be right back. It certainly is a big thing to

675
00:51:00.559 --> 00:51:07.199
hit, a very big fun big
CH's a very big fluffy fun. Why's

676
00:51:07.199 --> 00:51:09.599
the beef? Some hamburger place and
give you a luckless beef and a lot

677
00:51:09.679 --> 00:51:14.639
of bun. Where's the bee?
At Wendy's we have a hamburger we modestly

678
00:51:14.719 --> 00:51:17.280
call the single and Wendy's single has
more beef than the Whopper or Big Mac.

679
00:51:17.559 --> 00:51:23.280
Wewendy' you get more beeland less bun. Hey, I don't think you

680
00:51:23.400 --> 00:51:27.920
want something better. Your Wendy is
kind of people. Hey, if you

681
00:51:28.000 --> 00:51:31.000
listen to rock and roll radio in
the eighties, then listen to this to

682
00:51:31.159 --> 00:51:36.679
Scotto and Chang. They will transport
you back in time, Back to the

683
00:51:36.800 --> 00:51:51.679
eighties, ladies and gentlemen, boys
and girls. This is the infamous Chang,

684
00:51:52.360 --> 00:51:54.480
the voice inside your head that tells
you to do bad things when you

685
00:51:54.559 --> 00:52:00.519
shouldn't. Welcome back to the eighties. We have a very special guests from

686
00:52:00.599 --> 00:52:06.760
the music industry, a musician and
fellow eighties baby. Give it up for

687
00:52:06.840 --> 00:52:10.400
mister Mark Mason of Ampage. Mark
say hello to the boys and girls of

688
00:52:10.880 --> 00:52:15.079
Back to the Eighties. Hello,
boys and girls, back to the eighties.

689
00:52:15.679 --> 00:52:19.119
Mark, how the heck are you? Thanks for joining us here at

690
00:52:19.360 --> 00:52:21.800
Back to the Eighties Radio. I
can't tell you. It's a thrill for

691
00:52:21.920 --> 00:52:23.840
us to have you here, so
I appreciate it. Thank you. We've

692
00:52:23.920 --> 00:52:28.079
got a long road ahead of us, but you know, let's let's go

693
00:52:28.079 --> 00:52:30.239
ahead and go way back, how
far back, one day? Back,

694
00:52:30.320 --> 00:52:35.280
as far back as Mark, when
you were a kid, were you were

695
00:52:35.360 --> 00:52:38.480
you extroverted or introverted? You know, try to be class clown kind of

696
00:52:38.719 --> 00:52:43.400
you know, goofy, nice.
Nice. So I guess that has quite

697
00:52:43.440 --> 00:52:46.639
a bit to do for the way
you ended up coming into the music scene

698
00:52:46.639 --> 00:52:50.400
as as a leader. Yeah,
I guess. So. You know,

699
00:52:50.519 --> 00:52:52.920
I've never really thought about it.
You know, I'm in a band since

700
00:52:52.119 --> 00:52:57.679
eighth grade. So nice. Where
exactly did you grow up Mark, Huntington

701
00:52:57.719 --> 00:53:02.159
Beach. Oh, not too far
from where me and Tuscano first met eyes

702
00:53:02.199 --> 00:53:07.400
at Beach? Yeah we uh well, Chang and I met in two thy

703
00:53:07.719 --> 00:53:14.199
ten at the Academy of Radio and
Television down Beach Boulevard and Ettinger Wow,

704
00:53:14.360 --> 00:53:19.440
Okay, I grew up on Springdale
and Warner so okay, so not far

705
00:53:19.519 --> 00:53:23.119
at all. Who would you say
is your greatest influence and probably the reason

706
00:53:23.239 --> 00:53:28.480
why you decided to jump into music, And like you said, eighth grade,

707
00:53:28.599 --> 00:53:32.079
so you were roughly about what thirteen
fourteen. Yeah, yeah, you

708
00:53:32.159 --> 00:53:36.760
know a lot of things. My
dad was a musician, so I grew

709
00:53:36.880 --> 00:53:40.280
up with my dad would he called
picking and grinning. So every weekend we

710
00:53:40.360 --> 00:53:44.800
had guys coming over playing guitar,
banjo, drums, whatever in our living

711
00:53:44.920 --> 00:53:45.880
room. Nice. So, I
mean I kind of grew up with that.

712
00:53:46.079 --> 00:53:50.679
And you know, he you know, listened to a lot of Credence,

713
00:53:50.719 --> 00:53:57.039
clear Water, BTOUM, John Lennon, Beatles stuff. My dad was

714
00:53:57.079 --> 00:53:59.760
definitely uh, you know, you
got him in my first guitar when I

715
00:53:59.840 --> 00:54:01.440
was nine, I wanted a bike, but I got a guitar, So

716
00:54:01.960 --> 00:54:05.920
I mean, guess that's pretty much
my influence. Well kind of guitar did

717
00:54:05.920 --> 00:54:08.639
you get for your first guitar?
Gilled Mark sixteen. I think it was

718
00:54:09.159 --> 00:54:12.440
I'm not a bad not a bad
guitar to start off, it's not a

719
00:54:12.480 --> 00:54:14.920
bad guitar to star. I wanted
a bike, but I got a guitar.

720
00:54:15.480 --> 00:54:16.920
And then I'm left handed, so
I try to I'd be playing at

721
00:54:17.039 --> 00:54:20.719
left hand or learning how to play
it, and he grabbed it. I

722
00:54:20.880 --> 00:54:22.039
mean turn it around, saying no, no, no, you got to

723
00:54:22.039 --> 00:54:25.559
play right handed because someday you'll be
at a party and they'll have a guitar

724
00:54:25.679 --> 00:54:29.159
there and you'll want to play,
but it's going to be a right handed

725
00:54:29.199 --> 00:54:31.519
guitar, not a left handed And
I'm like fourteen years old, going,

726
00:54:31.639 --> 00:54:37.559
dude, what are you talking about? That is true, though, So

727
00:54:37.679 --> 00:54:39.960
were you able to accomplish the left
hand right hand thing? Yeah, I

728
00:54:40.000 --> 00:54:43.840
play guitar right handed. I'm left
handed everything else, but I played guitar

729
00:54:43.960 --> 00:54:45.760
right in. As you're growing up
in the in the music world, you

730
00:54:45.800 --> 00:54:51.159
know, you start off run eighth
grade, and then you get more experienced

731
00:54:51.239 --> 00:54:54.079
and uh, you know, not
only in music but in life as well.

732
00:54:54.599 --> 00:54:59.320
Any of those specific challenges that almost
made you quit and almost just made

733
00:54:59.320 --> 00:55:01.039
you say, you know what,
forget it, I'm done. Yeah,

734
00:55:01.159 --> 00:55:05.559
I mean I quite a few times, you know. I mean I got

735
00:55:05.639 --> 00:55:09.199
into the drugs pretty heavily, especially
in the eighties. Um was I lost

736
00:55:09.280 --> 00:55:13.719
everything. I was homeless for two
years, living in the Streetsywood. So

737
00:55:14.800 --> 00:55:17.960
you know, I kind of blamed
the drug abuse on the music, and

738
00:55:19.199 --> 00:55:22.199
so I would quit. I think
I went up to San Francisco and got

739
00:55:22.719 --> 00:55:28.880
a day job doing something, and
what I learned was there's way more drugs

740
00:55:28.960 --> 00:55:31.599
in the corporate world than the music
world because they got than we did.

741
00:55:31.679 --> 00:55:36.679
So it's no doubt. Yeah,
yeah, I had way more drugs available

742
00:55:36.679 --> 00:55:39.079
to me in the corporate world than
the music so I ended up going right

743
00:55:39.119 --> 00:55:42.599
back. But that was that was
kind of what I got out of that.

744
00:55:43.079 --> 00:55:45.599
Drugs are heavy. I think in
every industry. You know, I

745
00:55:45.719 --> 00:55:49.840
come from the construction era, well
side of things, and you know,

746
00:55:50.000 --> 00:55:54.079
drugs are passed around and on jobs
like nobody's business. I just think it's

747
00:55:54.119 --> 00:56:00.159
all about the freedom that drugs has
played a role in society, and the

748
00:56:00.239 --> 00:56:05.960
freedom people have with everyday use,
hidden use, any type of the use.

749
00:56:07.119 --> 00:56:13.199
It's almost taboo that it's been socially
okay for years without it being legally

750
00:56:13.320 --> 00:56:15.760
okay. So I think a lot
of people, you know, like us

751
00:56:15.800 --> 00:56:21.679
and every walk of life, have
that demon that is always facing us,

752
00:56:21.719 --> 00:56:24.639
whether it be drugs or alcohol.
Well I liked it, so oh yeah,

753
00:56:24.679 --> 00:56:29.639
bro, and that usually that usually
helps, right. I didn't like

754
00:56:29.719 --> 00:56:31.119
it, wouldn't have done it,
but I liked it too much, and

755
00:56:31.719 --> 00:56:35.079
you know, I paid a price
for it, and yeah that was fine.

756
00:56:35.679 --> 00:56:38.519
And you know, I think the
majority of the entertainment world has not

757
00:56:38.639 --> 00:56:42.719
only enjoyed but the other side of
the story, which has paid the price

758
00:56:43.559 --> 00:56:45.920
starting off from the eighties, because
it really, really, I would say,

759
00:56:46.039 --> 00:56:50.559
my opinion, really really took off
with the harder core drugs. I

760
00:56:50.599 --> 00:56:52.480
would say in the eighties. It's
not not correct. Yeah. Yeah.

761
00:56:53.039 --> 00:56:55.519
And when I say I paid the
price, So I also got a lot

762
00:56:55.559 --> 00:57:00.039
out of it besides the drugs and
the highs and everything. I mean the

763
00:57:00.199 --> 00:57:04.920
nineties album I mean the actually the
nineties, in the first two two thousand

764
00:57:04.920 --> 00:57:08.800
albums, every one of those songs
was basically written from the two years I

765
00:57:08.840 --> 00:57:12.360
spent living in the streets. I
mean, I got a lot of material

766
00:57:12.440 --> 00:57:15.199
out of it, A lot of
materials, so you know, all the

767
00:57:15.320 --> 00:57:19.400
bamboozler, you know, lost and
learned, downtown playground, all that stuff.

768
00:57:19.440 --> 00:57:22.719
So from being a drug addic lived
in the streets. Had I not

769
00:57:22.880 --> 00:57:25.480
done that, i'd be down about
three albums right now. So there's nothing

770
00:57:25.599 --> 00:57:30.719
like pulling from your own heart and
your experiences to create something beautiful, don't

771
00:57:30.760 --> 00:57:32.519
you agree, bro? Yeah?
And um, I mean to be honest

772
00:57:32.559 --> 00:57:35.960
with you, but I don't even
know where the songs come from. I

773
00:57:36.039 --> 00:57:38.679
mean, you know, I mean, I'm when I write, it's like,

774
00:57:39.079 --> 00:57:42.480
um, you know, I mean, they just you know, they're

775
00:57:42.719 --> 00:57:45.119
you know, their gifts. Somebody's
given them to you. And it's like

776
00:57:45.199 --> 00:57:49.199
I could be writing down some lyrics, you know, for a course or

777
00:57:49.280 --> 00:57:53.400
something, and technically and musically this
is correct, but it doesn't it that

778
00:57:53.519 --> 00:57:57.400
little light in sight doesn't go on. You know, if I do it

779
00:57:57.519 --> 00:58:00.800
this way, the light comes on
inside every time, and I know that's

780
00:58:00.840 --> 00:58:06.920
the right one. So, I
mean, who knows when Ampage was about

781
00:58:07.000 --> 00:58:09.679
to start? How did it come
about? Actually I went to in high

782
00:58:09.679 --> 00:58:14.159
school. We opened that. We
started Ampage in high school with me a

783
00:58:14.239 --> 00:58:20.159
guitar player named Henry Michael Kroeger,
our drummer that ended up being with me

784
00:58:20.320 --> 00:58:24.000
most of the forty years of Ampage, and Peter Rollen was the original singer

785
00:58:24.039 --> 00:58:28.159
for about three months. And so
it all started in high school. We

786
00:58:28.280 --> 00:58:31.559
went to Hawaii on our weight Australia
to do a tour and things kind of

787
00:58:31.599 --> 00:58:37.400
broke up. So I came back
to Hollywood and ended up kind of redoing

788
00:58:37.440 --> 00:58:40.199
a new Ampage, which was what
I used on the first album with Craig

789
00:58:40.239 --> 00:58:45.079
Beck, who was an amazing guitarist. I think he was like best guitarist

790
00:58:45.119 --> 00:58:49.400
of the year that year in Hollywood. Mark London was an amazing drummer,

791
00:58:49.880 --> 00:58:52.519
and uh yeah, I mean that
was. That was the first album.

792
00:58:52.639 --> 00:58:57.119
That was. It wasn't need the
original guys from the high school band,

793
00:58:57.159 --> 00:59:00.159
but it was. It was what
we used for the first album. In

794
00:59:00.280 --> 00:59:04.760
eighty seven, we were doing shows
up and down the coast and Um we

795
00:59:04.880 --> 00:59:08.840
were playing at the Stone in San
Francisco and when we when we got down

796
00:59:08.920 --> 00:59:12.320
playing, this guy comes up to
us. He goes, oh, you

797
00:59:12.400 --> 00:59:15.840
guys are magic. Your magic,
you know, I must work with you.

798
00:59:15.239 --> 00:59:19.679
And it turns out it's Mitch Mitchell, the drummer from Jimmie Hendricks Nice

799
00:59:20.039 --> 00:59:22.920
and I didn't know who the guy
was. My drummer was like, do

800
00:59:22.159 --> 00:59:25.840
Mitch Mitchell, It's Mitch Mitchell.
I don't know who that is. Um.

801
00:59:25.960 --> 00:59:30.360
Anyway, so we continue to party
through the night and we got kicked

802
00:59:30.360 --> 00:59:34.360
out of our hotel as we did, and um and Mitch put us all

803
00:59:34.440 --> 00:59:37.760
up in his hotel. Three days
later he came down to Hollywood and and

804
00:59:37.079 --> 00:59:42.480
he lived with us for about six
months. Well the Champagne Caveat album.

805
00:59:42.639 --> 00:59:45.840
I want to ask you about a
certain song, Pussycat. I've heard that

806
00:59:45.920 --> 00:59:47.800
song over and over again, And
I have to tell you, Bro,

807
00:59:47.920 --> 00:59:52.000
I'm taking with that song lyrically.
You're You've got a very strong lyrical present

808
00:59:52.079 --> 00:59:57.800
presence. But the thing that captivated
me about that track was how you introed

809
00:59:57.880 --> 01:00:02.679
it in with piano kind of g
think it that kind of barroom slash Elton

810
01:00:02.840 --> 01:00:07.400
John Bernie Toppenfield. But then when
you had I believe Homeboy's name is hook

811
01:00:07.719 --> 01:00:10.800
on the harmonica the harp, I
mean, dude, it turned into like

812
01:00:10.880 --> 01:00:15.599
a bluesy kind of I want to
say circus, but you know what I

813
01:00:15.719 --> 01:00:20.880
mean, kind of a birdlesque feel. And to me, that's probably one

814
01:00:20.880 --> 01:00:24.199
of my favorite songs from you guys. Where did you get those lyrics from?

815
01:00:24.239 --> 01:00:28.800
Bro? Where were you at in
your state of mind and at that

816
01:00:28.920 --> 01:00:32.880
time that you came up with that
song and the way it kind of captured

817
01:00:32.920 --> 01:00:37.440
the attentional way it did that was
like the early eight nineties, and I

818
01:00:37.519 --> 01:00:42.599
had met I had met sly Stone, you know from sly and the family

819
01:00:42.679 --> 01:00:45.639
size right, and so I got
to hang out with him a few times.

820
01:00:45.719 --> 01:00:49.599
And then then one night I had
a dream that means sly were hanging

821
01:00:49.639 --> 01:00:52.559
out because we were in and Slic
said let's write a song. I said,

822
01:00:52.559 --> 01:00:54.000
great, what do you want to
write back? I don't know.

823
01:00:54.119 --> 01:00:58.599
Let's compare girls the Cats, you
know. And so basically I wrote the

824
01:00:58.800 --> 01:01:02.440
entire song note for note, word
for word in the dream, and then

825
01:01:02.480 --> 01:01:06.199
I woke up and wrote it all
down and then went back to sleep,

826
01:01:06.280 --> 01:01:10.000
and the next day the whole song
and He's born, Yeah, every word,

827
01:01:10.079 --> 01:01:13.679
every note. Then later on a
lot of the songs, if I

828
01:01:13.800 --> 01:01:16.400
especially if I was stuck on something
with the song, I would I would

829
01:01:16.400 --> 01:01:22.039
always keep padding paper next to my
bed and just keep drilling the course or

830
01:01:22.039 --> 01:01:23.440
whatever I was stuck on in my
head as I was going to sleep,

831
01:01:24.079 --> 01:01:30.119
and uh and try to unfix it
like that. How much did family play

832
01:01:30.159 --> 01:01:34.400
a role or not play a role
in your career? I mean it was

833
01:01:34.480 --> 01:01:36.760
everything. My dad, like I
said, was a musician. He taught

834
01:01:36.760 --> 01:01:38.800
me how to play, taught me
to all my chords. My mom,

835
01:01:39.480 --> 01:01:44.519
my mom was a creative writing teacher
at high school, so she taught me

836
01:01:44.599 --> 01:01:47.679
how to write. And I mean
I had the best of both, you

837
01:01:47.760 --> 01:01:51.840
know. I mean I had my
mom taught me about lyrics and how to

838
01:01:51.880 --> 01:01:54.639
write lyrics and create a writing and
my dad taught me the music side of

839
01:01:54.679 --> 01:01:58.920
it, So I kind of had
the best of both. What other career

840
01:01:59.000 --> 01:02:04.360
do you think you would have and
went into had you not been blessed with

841
01:02:04.400 --> 01:02:08.360
the gifts to entertain musically? Treasure
hunting? Nice? Nice, Oh dude,

842
01:02:08.400 --> 01:02:14.400
that I would have been so down
for that to go find sunken treasure.

843
01:02:14.719 --> 01:02:17.119
And my theory. My theory is
that I know where to go.

844
01:02:17.519 --> 01:02:22.320
I mean, it's like they put
lighthouses where all the ships were crashing where

845
01:02:22.320 --> 01:02:27.280
they we're wrecking, right, I
go to Florida and just start starting off

846
01:02:27.400 --> 01:02:30.800
where all the lighthouses are and start
going out two miles and start checking all

847
01:02:30.840 --> 01:02:36.280
there. So I was not a
bad idea. Definitely been a treasure on

848
01:02:36.360 --> 01:02:38.920
her. You're listening to Back to
the Eighties Radio. If you just joined

849
01:02:39.000 --> 01:02:42.719
us, we have Mark Mason here
from Happage. Don't go away. We're

850
01:02:42.760 --> 01:02:45.400
gonna have a lot more with Mark
the chang at Back to the Eighties Radio.

851
01:02:45.440 --> 01:02:50.119
We'll be right back. Hello,
this is the doctor speaking. I

852
01:02:50.320 --> 01:02:54.000
detect a large amount of social media
usage in your life all intense. I

853
01:02:54.119 --> 01:03:02.960
am recommending you go back to the
eighties. If you can't wear a spandex

854
01:03:04.119 --> 01:03:12.280
jumpsuit, what can you do back
to the eighties? Welcome back to back

855
01:03:12.320 --> 01:03:15.519
to the eighties, all my cats
and kitty. We are sitting with mister

856
01:03:15.639 --> 01:03:19.840
ampage, Mark Mason. Mark,
you've opened up on a couple of pretty

857
01:03:19.880 --> 01:03:22.719
personal things. I want to thank
you on behalf of me and Tisconnod for

858
01:03:22.800 --> 01:03:25.360
talking about those things. Was your
view of fame and fortune all that you

859
01:03:25.400 --> 01:03:30.280
would ever imagined? Or was it
worse? You know? I never was

860
01:03:30.400 --> 01:03:35.400
into the fame and fortune thing.
To me was just about the music and

861
01:03:36.320 --> 01:03:39.159
m and playing. I mean,
I love performing, I love you know.

862
01:03:40.400 --> 01:03:44.119
I just I have no respect for
money, which is probably not a

863
01:03:44.159 --> 01:03:47.719
great thing. So money never really
matters to me about anything, no matter

864
01:03:47.880 --> 01:03:52.039
where it comes from. But um, to me, it was just m.

865
01:03:52.719 --> 01:03:57.559
It was about the songs first and
um and of course the recording and

866
01:03:58.119 --> 01:04:00.760
making the best I could and then
performing. I mean, for me,

867
01:04:00.880 --> 01:04:06.360
that was everything. I don't care
much about fame or fortune or anything else.

868
01:04:06.719 --> 01:04:09.800
You know. I had my fifteen
minutes here. I got a little

869
01:04:09.800 --> 01:04:12.800
fifteen minutes there, you know,
and it's like, you know, who

870
01:04:12.880 --> 01:04:15.320
cares? You know? It's like, Mark, do you think there was

871
01:04:15.360 --> 01:04:18.679
a greater high in being on stage
when it was your turn people there in

872
01:04:18.719 --> 01:04:20.880
the audience. I mean, do
you think that was a greater high than

873
01:04:20.920 --> 01:04:25.840
anything else? Oh one percent?
When I could name some of my best

874
01:04:25.880 --> 01:04:28.920
shows, and one was the when
we opened up for def Leopard in Puerto

875
01:04:29.000 --> 01:04:35.119
Rico, that audience was just amazing
and to have them, I could see

876
01:04:35.119 --> 01:04:39.679
the first twenty rows like singing along
word for word, you know, and

877
01:04:39.840 --> 01:04:42.960
that for me was the rush,
you know, and it was a song

878
01:04:43.039 --> 01:04:45.679
that they weren't even supposed to know. It was a you know, we'd

879
01:04:45.760 --> 01:04:48.239
go into Words, which was our
single at the time, and that's usually

880
01:04:48.239 --> 01:04:50.280
when we go into that, everyone
goes crazy. That's the when they hear

881
01:04:50.320 --> 01:04:53.599
on the radio. They didn't go
crazy, so I was a little worried.

882
01:04:53.639 --> 01:04:57.000
And then we went into Downtown Playground
and we didn't know that that's what

883
01:04:57.119 --> 01:04:59.960
the radio stations playing. They didn't
really like Words, so they're playing Downto.

884
01:05:00.960 --> 01:05:04.679
We went into Downtown, the audience
went just nuts and they're screaming and

885
01:05:04.800 --> 01:05:09.400
dancing and singing along, and I
mean it was just it was the best

886
01:05:09.480 --> 01:05:12.920
high I could ever have. And
the energy you get from that kind of

887
01:05:12.960 --> 01:05:15.840
an audience, I mean, Europe
for hours afterwards. I mean you're just

888
01:05:15.920 --> 01:05:18.960
trying to come down off of it. So that's better than any drug and

889
01:05:19.320 --> 01:05:23.199
way being or any kind of fame
or fortune or money or anything else.

890
01:05:23.400 --> 01:05:29.519
Who was one of the craziest bands
or acts that you traveled with that you

891
01:05:29.599 --> 01:05:32.280
were like, Wow, these cats
are a pretty rock and roll out there

892
01:05:35.719 --> 01:05:40.679
a lot, I mean, all
of them right, pretty much. I

893
01:05:40.719 --> 01:05:44.800
mean everyone had their own little thing. I mean, we did a show,

894
01:05:45.079 --> 01:05:47.559
we got to play with. We
did a show with Eric Clapton and

895
01:05:47.679 --> 01:05:53.639
Billy Idol, and so we were
the first band, and then Clapton was

896
01:05:53.760 --> 01:05:57.440
right after us. A lot of
whiskey and blow now. I mean actually,

897
01:05:57.440 --> 01:05:59.320
actually I was ober at the time. I think he was too.

898
01:05:59.400 --> 01:06:03.320
Actually I'm actually thirty years sober right
now, right once, thank you.

899
01:06:03.519 --> 01:06:08.360
But um, so right after we
played it was outdoor, outdoor show.

900
01:06:08.719 --> 01:06:11.199
I went late. I kind of
was sitting on the grass with a couple

901
01:06:11.239 --> 01:06:15.000
of guys in my band and and
Clapton walks up to me and introduces himself

902
01:06:15.039 --> 01:06:17.719
like I don't know who God is, you know, and um, I'm

903
01:06:17.760 --> 01:06:21.280
just looking up shaking his hand.
He's like I really like that third song

904
01:06:21.400 --> 01:06:25.639
and years man, you know,
And I was just like Wow. Eric

905
01:06:25.719 --> 01:06:29.440
Clapton came up to me, you
know, and so then he goes on

906
01:06:29.639 --> 01:06:33.679
stage and then I'm backstage with Billy
and uh, Clapton started to go into

907
01:06:33.719 --> 01:06:38.679
Billy's set time, and Billy idols
like, going, may she got to

908
01:06:38.679 --> 01:06:41.480
go tell God to get off the
stage. He's going into my set time,

909
01:06:42.000 --> 01:06:44.320
and I'm like, Billy, there's
no fucking way I'm going to tell

910
01:06:44.400 --> 01:06:47.920
God to get the stage and um, you know, and then Billy's like,

911
01:06:47.960 --> 01:06:49.840
well, I guess I'm Billy Ido. I guess I could tell him

912
01:06:49.840 --> 01:06:54.079
to get off stage. And right
then Clapton goes into this kind of like

913
01:06:54.199 --> 01:06:58.440
a it was kind of like a
strip tease type song, you know,

914
01:06:59.039 --> 01:07:03.280
and and Billy just starts swinging on
the poll backstage and ripping his clothes off.

915
01:07:03.440 --> 01:07:08.039
And I mean, just the funniest
guy I've ever met in my life.

916
01:07:08.559 --> 01:07:11.519
Yeah, not a lot of crazy, just for me. It was

917
01:07:11.599 --> 01:07:15.440
always, you know, just like
Rick Allen from def Leppard when I worked

918
01:07:15.519 --> 01:07:18.000
with him. I mean, one
of the funniest guys I think I've ever

919
01:07:18.239 --> 01:07:23.719
worked with or met as just a
human being. I mean, just hysterically

920
01:07:23.800 --> 01:07:26.920
funny. So since we're talking here
on this show, we talk about the

921
01:07:27.000 --> 01:07:30.199
eighties only eighties, right, And
although we're going to talk about a lot

922
01:07:30.239 --> 01:07:32.519
of stuff of what Appage is getting
ready to do, but going to the

923
01:07:32.599 --> 01:07:36.679
eighties as a decade, does that
have any special meaning to you? Or

924
01:07:36.719 --> 01:07:40.079
are you the kind that says,
you know what, I hated the eighties

925
01:07:40.159 --> 01:07:43.679
period? Or I mean, what
does the eighties decade mean to you?

926
01:07:44.599 --> 01:07:47.079
To me, it was more about
just that was my youth. I mean,

927
01:07:47.159 --> 01:07:50.840
that was my twenties. I was
born in nineteen sixties, so you

928
01:07:50.920 --> 01:07:55.559
know, nineteen eighty I was twenty. In nineteen ninety I was thirty,

929
01:07:55.599 --> 01:07:59.000
So all my twenties were in the
eighties. You know, that's where I

930
01:07:59.079 --> 01:08:02.599
grew up. That's you know,
the sunset strip on the eighties. In

931
01:08:02.679 --> 01:08:06.079
the eighties was like, um,
it was like going to college. I

932
01:08:06.159 --> 01:08:10.360
mean when you look back at it, because you know, we're all going

933
01:08:10.480 --> 01:08:13.000
we're all trying to get the record
deals, We're all playing the same clubs.

934
01:08:13.440 --> 01:08:15.199
You know, we all got the
same girlfriends, We've all got the

935
01:08:15.279 --> 01:08:18.319
same you know everything, and we're
all trying to get that same thing.

936
01:08:18.359 --> 01:08:23.920
We're with guns and Roses, Motley
Crue, poison, I mean, everybody,

937
01:08:24.000 --> 01:08:26.920
we're all, you know, and
it's didn't Later on you kind of

938
01:08:26.960 --> 01:08:29.880
see who can't had made it up
to here, and who got up to

939
01:08:30.039 --> 01:08:32.600
here, and you know who died
and who didn't make it at all.

940
01:08:32.760 --> 01:08:36.800
And you know, I mean it
was like the Class of eighty seven for

941
01:08:36.960 --> 01:08:41.159
us, you know, and everybody
was pretty cool. I mean, you

942
01:08:41.239 --> 01:08:44.079
know, we all got along pretty
good and we had a good time.

943
01:08:44.239 --> 01:08:45.560
So when I think of the eighties, well, first off, they say,

944
01:08:45.600 --> 01:08:49.279
if you can remember the eighties,
you probably weren't there. Um that

945
01:08:49.479 --> 01:08:53.960
be had said, I am reminded
a lot of stuff I had no idea

946
01:08:54.000 --> 01:08:56.279
about. But but it was for
me, it was a good time.

947
01:08:56.319 --> 01:08:59.560
It was my youth. I mean
it was it was my college years in

948
01:08:59.680 --> 01:09:02.159
rock. What's in the works for
Ampage this year? And what are you

949
01:09:02.199 --> 01:09:05.960
going to hit us with? I
Up to now Ampage has done what eight

950
01:09:06.039 --> 01:09:12.199
albums, nine movies, including the
Disney movie Brink We Charted. You did

951
01:09:12.399 --> 01:09:15.039
quite a bit of NBC weekend movies
too, Yeah, brother, a lot

952
01:09:15.079 --> 01:09:20.000
of those. Um so um.
The guys that are in Ampage now been

953
01:09:20.079 --> 01:09:24.560
with me about eight years. The
drummer we have has been with us six

954
01:09:24.680 --> 01:09:27.960
years. He took Mike Kroger's place. If you remember, Mike Kroger was

955
01:09:28.439 --> 01:09:30.439
with me in high school. We
started this band together, and he was

956
01:09:30.479 --> 01:09:32.920
with me except for the first album. He's with me and all the other

957
01:09:33.000 --> 01:09:39.159
albums, all the tours, and
you know, twenty sixteen, he passed

958
01:09:39.159 --> 01:09:44.520
away of leukemia while we yeah,
we were working on the Bridge of Souls

959
01:09:44.560 --> 01:09:47.800
album, and he kept saying,
man, I'm so tired, you know,

960
01:09:47.840 --> 01:09:51.800
I must be out of shape or
something. And and so he laid

961
01:09:51.840 --> 01:09:56.159
his drums down, did an amazing
job as usual, and he once saw

962
01:09:56.159 --> 01:09:58.600
a doctor and he said, dude, you got leukemia. And he died

963
01:09:58.640 --> 01:10:00.279
six weeks later. He never even
got to hear the album. Oh wow,

964
01:10:00.600 --> 01:10:02.760
brother, and um, so I
called him up the last time I

965
01:10:02.800 --> 01:10:05.279
talked to him. You know,
I was like, you know, talking

966
01:10:05.319 --> 01:10:10.199
about you know, high school and
starting the band and the tours and definitely

967
01:10:10.479 --> 01:10:13.159
all the stuff we've done over the
years. And then I was like,

968
01:10:13.319 --> 01:10:15.039
you know, dude, forget that
stuff. Let's talk about you. He's

969
01:10:15.079 --> 01:10:18.000
like, forget that. He goes, let's talk about the du album.

970
01:10:18.079 --> 01:10:21.119
This is my last masterpiece on drums. He goes, you know, may

971
01:10:21.279 --> 01:10:24.560
you got to promise to me to
push it on your side. You push

972
01:10:24.640 --> 01:10:27.520
it from your side, I'll push
it from mine. And those are the

973
01:10:27.640 --> 01:10:30.920
last words he said to me.
But as far as the twenty twenty two,

974
01:10:30.039 --> 01:10:34.199
so, when when Kroger died,
um, I had promised him that

975
01:10:34.239 --> 01:10:39.640
we're going to push that album soum. We started auditioning drummers and I was

976
01:10:39.680 --> 01:10:43.800
being kind of a dick because they
weren't Kroger. You know, yeah,

977
01:10:44.319 --> 01:10:47.640
the audition they play and and I'm
just like, I'm being a dictom,

978
01:10:47.720 --> 01:10:50.560
you know, I don't even want
him there. And so we went through

979
01:10:50.640 --> 01:10:54.640
a lot of auditions and uh and
then finally I was like, wow,

980
01:10:54.640 --> 01:10:56.880
I guess I better find a drum
I kind of promised the guy on his

981
01:10:57.039 --> 01:11:00.640
deathbed, you know. So I
started watching some video of some drummers on

982
01:11:00.720 --> 01:11:05.319
YouTube and ran across this one drummer
and uh so I called him up,

983
01:11:05.359 --> 01:11:09.319
said, hey, you know I
saw you on YouTube. You remind me

984
01:11:09.359 --> 01:11:12.199
a lot of my old drummer.
I said, were you from? And

985
01:11:12.319 --> 01:11:15.399
He's like, though, this little
town in Indiana, which was five minutes

986
01:11:15.439 --> 01:11:18.560
from where Kroger was from. Wow, it's weird. Anyways, long story

987
01:11:18.600 --> 01:11:21.560
short, he became our drummer.
So he's been with us ever since.

988
01:11:23.399 --> 01:11:29.399
And the guy's amazing, amazing drummer, great backup vocalist and fun guy.

989
01:11:29.479 --> 01:11:30.439
I mean the guys I have now, I wish I had the guys I

990
01:11:30.520 --> 01:11:34.720
have now back in the nine eighties. Yeah, we would have done a

991
01:11:34.800 --> 01:11:40.039
lot better and uh and definitely what
it held a lot more fun back in

992
01:11:40.079 --> 01:11:41.720
the eighties. I mean, like
I said, we were all trying to

993
01:11:41.720 --> 01:11:45.039
get that record. You we're all
trying to you know, be rock stars

994
01:11:45.119 --> 01:11:46.279
or what. Trying to give it
rich and famous. That's what it was

995
01:11:46.279 --> 01:11:48.920
all about back then. Yeah,
yeah, pretty much. But you know

996
01:11:49.079 --> 01:11:53.319
it was like we took it too
seriously. And I mean I took it

997
01:11:53.399 --> 01:11:57.159
way too seriously. Um, you
know, I mean I took it way

998
01:11:57.199 --> 01:12:01.119
too seriously. And and I don't
now. And I'm having more fun on

999
01:12:01.279 --> 01:12:03.760
stage now than I've ever had my
entire life. If you like it,

1000
01:12:03.880 --> 01:12:08.000
great, If you don't, be
great, I have missed right brother,

1001
01:12:08.079 --> 01:12:10.600
right onto that. I mean,
I say whatever I want on stage,

1002
01:12:10.600 --> 01:12:14.079
I do whatever I want, and
I don't care, you know, right,

1003
01:12:14.560 --> 01:12:16.039
It's it's so much fun now,
And I wish I would have done

1004
01:12:16.079 --> 01:12:19.680
this back in the eighties. I
really do for twenty twenty two, twenty

1005
01:12:19.760 --> 01:12:25.640
twenty one, we just released the
Season and Hell album that we recorded,

1006
01:12:26.800 --> 01:12:29.920
which is probably one of my favorite
albums now anyway. Actually, I'm definitely

1007
01:12:29.960 --> 01:12:31.199
going to check it out, my
brother, that one until it's our best

1008
01:12:31.239 --> 01:12:35.000
so far. Actually, So we
got locked down like everyone else did in

1009
01:12:35.119 --> 01:12:40.119
COVID, right. I didn't think
I was going to do another album all

1010
01:12:40.159 --> 01:12:42.560
of a sudden, I had four
months of time on my hands and nothing

1011
01:12:42.600 --> 01:12:45.479
to do. So I'd go get
my coffee every morning, walk down into

1012
01:12:45.520 --> 01:12:48.920
my studio and turn on the machine
and see what I came up with.

1013
01:12:49.119 --> 01:12:53.920
And within a month I had twelve
new songs that I really liked, and

1014
01:12:54.560 --> 01:12:59.159
so I brought the guys in.
We recorded it Dwayne Barron Um you know

1015
01:12:59.239 --> 01:13:03.520
as he as he's producer and and
he's produced almost all our albums now.

1016
01:13:04.439 --> 01:13:06.880
I sent him over to him and
he really liked it and he did an

1017
01:13:06.880 --> 01:13:11.760
amazing job, you know, finishing
it up for us. So this time

1018
01:13:11.800 --> 01:13:15.119
we released that about a month ago, and that I wanted to also because

1019
01:13:15.119 --> 01:13:18.399
it may be my last album.
I don't know, but as I started

1020
01:13:18.439 --> 01:13:21.760
my first album on vinyl, I
wanted at least end with vinyl. So

1021
01:13:21.960 --> 01:13:26.319
we put this album out on you
know, your regular downloads, but also

1022
01:13:26.399 --> 01:13:30.920
on CD and also on twelve inch
vinyl. So it's on twelve inch red

1023
01:13:30.039 --> 01:13:34.039
transparent vinyl. Dude, that is
old school. Brother, That's fantastic,

1024
01:13:34.239 --> 01:13:38.800
especially because of comeback that Vinyl has
had in these last years. Yeah,

1025
01:13:39.119 --> 01:13:43.119
it's amazing. And if believe it
or not, that same comeback that Vinyl

1026
01:13:43.159 --> 01:13:46.319
has had, cassettes are making a
comeback. It's been a trip because when

1027
01:13:46.319 --> 01:13:48.399
we give these things out, you
know, or I hand them off to

1028
01:13:48.439 --> 01:13:51.680
people or send them off, people
love it. It's just twelve inch.

1029
01:13:53.119 --> 01:13:57.119
Yeah, there's the band, you
know, Yeah, not this little whatever.

1030
01:13:57.239 --> 01:14:00.279
I mean, they're like reading the
stuff on the album used to do

1031
01:14:00.359 --> 01:14:03.079
in the eighties and now they can
touch it, feel it. You're giving

1032
01:14:03.119 --> 01:14:08.119
people the experience of what we had, big photos and lots of stuff to

1033
01:14:08.319 --> 01:14:11.319
read about the band. And yeah, I mean, and I'm going to

1034
01:14:11.359 --> 01:14:14.960
finish up your question with um for
twenty twenty two, we've been working on

1035
01:14:15.039 --> 01:14:18.760
a documentary for the last three years. During the eighties, nineties, two

1036
01:14:18.800 --> 01:14:21.760
thousands, Um, I mean most
of it, I got video. Almost

1037
01:14:21.760 --> 01:14:28.159
all our shows have been videotaped.
Ye I've got over one hundred hours which

1038
01:14:28.199 --> 01:14:32.079
of videotapes that we gave to Colin
Felger. He's the directing producer. M

1039
01:14:32.159 --> 01:14:36.880
The film's called Falling Higher. It's
almost done, um, and it's it

1040
01:14:38.119 --> 01:14:42.399
just takes us through all the eighties
with footage, you know, live footage,

1041
01:14:42.720 --> 01:14:46.720
and nineties and the two thousands.
Um. It's narrated by Jake Jake

1042
01:14:46.800 --> 01:14:53.039
buc Gary Busey's son. Jake was
in Contact and a bunch of other movies.

1043
01:14:53.880 --> 01:14:57.560
Um. Great guy. And I've
known Gary. I've known Gary Busey's

1044
01:14:57.800 --> 01:15:00.640
his dad for years. Gary played
on one of our albums. Actually really

1045
01:15:00.920 --> 01:15:05.359
yeah, he did um D Day
on one of the albums. I forget

1046
01:15:05.399 --> 01:15:11.760
which one, but I wanted that
song was to countdown Armageddon in the year

1047
01:15:11.840 --> 01:15:15.319
twenty eleven. I wanted like an
evangelist preacher in the beginning as a song

1048
01:15:15.560 --> 01:15:18.560
fade in and who else but Gary
Busy. I was like Gary, for

1049
01:15:18.680 --> 01:15:23.319
sure. Yeah. I called Gary
up and he was awesome. He came

1050
01:15:23.399 --> 01:15:26.960
down. He had a Bible of
one hand and and Dwayne barn was mixing

1051
01:15:27.039 --> 01:15:30.079
it down and and he nailed it
at one take. I was laughing so

1052
01:15:30.239 --> 01:15:33.680
hard because he just nailed it,
and I was laughing and he's like,

1053
01:15:33.760 --> 01:15:36.159
oh, dude, was that okay? And I'm like, dude, that

1054
01:15:36.359 --> 01:15:40.239
was awesome. That's why I'm laughing. I'm not laughing at you. It

1055
01:15:40.520 --> 01:15:44.439
was awesome. Nice. So we
ended up using that. But yeah,

1056
01:15:44.439 --> 01:15:48.279
so the film should be out by
January for sure, and it's got a

1057
01:15:48.319 --> 01:15:51.159
lot of stuff in it. I
mean, you know, I did that

1058
01:15:51.279 --> 01:15:57.079
Rockers against pay to play thing.
I organized musicians back in the early nineties

1059
01:15:58.000 --> 01:16:00.279
against that, so that I forgot. I had all that news footage our

1060
01:16:00.399 --> 01:16:04.039
ninety seven tour and we're getting ready
to head out. That's when the heavens

1061
01:16:04.159 --> 01:16:11.119
Gate Colt killed themselves thirty million and
the name of a label was called Higher

1062
01:16:11.199 --> 01:16:15.960
Source and they were their subsidiary company
was Higher Source. So the next day,

1063
01:16:15.000 --> 01:16:17.159
I know, I'm on the news
with Tom broke Off holding up my

1064
01:16:17.239 --> 01:16:19.880
CD, going, Tom, we
got nothing to do with us, Colt,

1065
01:16:20.000 --> 01:16:24.640
and you know, um, and
that should have just been the end

1066
01:16:24.680 --> 01:16:28.600
of it, but now it's the
news. So they melted into a twenty

1067
01:16:28.640 --> 01:16:30.439
minute piece on poor ampage. They
getting ready to go on tour, and

1068
01:16:30.520 --> 01:16:34.000
the label spent one point three million
dollars on them. And you know,

1069
01:16:34.159 --> 01:16:38.279
they people, well, that's some
good advertising for you guys. I know,

1070
01:16:38.800 --> 01:16:42.600
brother, I liked them. But
that's how we charted. I mean,

1071
01:16:42.640 --> 01:16:44.720
the next day, every radio station
in the country is playing us.

1072
01:16:44.760 --> 01:16:46.800
They saw it. They got the
joke that, you know, like if

1073
01:16:46.840 --> 01:16:49.279
we shouldn't even been on there.
I mean, you know, we had

1074
01:16:49.319 --> 01:16:54.199
nothing to do with anything. So
um, and it was a crazy year.

1075
01:16:54.319 --> 01:16:58.800
That ninety seven was the most craziest
year of my career. Actually,

1076
01:16:58.920 --> 01:17:01.680
I mean it was that and um
and all that that went with it.

1077
01:17:01.800 --> 01:17:04.359
And then, uh, when we
recorded the album, you know, we

1078
01:17:04.439 --> 01:17:10.840
brought Earl Slick, the guitarists from
John Lennon and Bowie joined the band,

1079
01:17:10.920 --> 01:17:14.079
and so we recorded since he was
in the band, we went into the

1080
01:17:14.119 --> 01:17:18.239
record plant in Hollywood and recorded give
Me Some Truth by John Lennons. Because

1081
01:17:18.600 --> 01:17:23.600
the Lennon guitarists and me being the
lead singer, you know, I changed

1082
01:17:23.680 --> 01:17:25.880
lyrics. I mean, I do
it all the time, but I usually

1083
01:17:25.920 --> 01:17:28.680
do it on my own songs,
you know, right, And this time

1084
01:17:28.720 --> 01:17:31.520
I changed some of the lyrics on
the John Lennon song. And so the

1085
01:17:31.600 --> 01:17:36.239
album came out and I get I
get a letter from EMI Publishing New York's

1086
01:17:36.239 --> 01:17:40.359
thing. I'm getting sued by the
Lenin estate. You can't change a John

1087
01:17:40.439 --> 01:17:45.079
Lennon lyrics, and that's right.
I don't know who told you could change

1088
01:17:45.119 --> 01:17:50.399
my music. You seem like a
good anyway night, you know. Honestly,

1089
01:17:50.439 --> 01:17:54.399
I was more shocked than we actually
listened to our album, let alone

1090
01:17:54.399 --> 01:17:59.119
the lyrics, let that I changed
a word or whatever. Um So anyway,

1091
01:17:59.199 --> 01:18:01.520
Slick flew back to New York,
played it for Yoko, and Yoko

1092
01:18:01.640 --> 01:18:04.680
liked my changes, thank god,
and said if John was alive, he

1093
01:18:04.720 --> 01:18:08.840
probably would have made similar changes.
So then I get a letter from me

1094
01:18:08.920 --> 01:18:12.279
am I Publishing, New York saying
that I wrote the song with John Lennon,

1095
01:18:12.520 --> 01:18:15.560
but for one dollar, sign all
royalties back to the Lennon the state.

1096
01:18:15.199 --> 01:18:17.640
Now I got a letter saying I
wrote a song with John Lennon which

1097
01:18:18.720 --> 01:18:25.039
became right right, that alone is
worth more than a dollar. Well,

1098
01:18:25.079 --> 01:18:28.199
everybody, it's that time of the
night where we have to hit the road,

1099
01:18:28.319 --> 01:18:32.199
say audio Sosta la vista and asta
manana and order. We want to

1100
01:18:32.279 --> 01:18:36.840
thank our rock and roll brother and
our whole our guest, mister Mark Mason

1101
01:18:36.880 --> 01:18:44.039
of Appage Mark a billion, fantastic
U wishes on your future with the band.

1102
01:18:44.079 --> 01:18:45.640
Hopefully you don't give it up.
Thanks for being with us, Mark,

1103
01:18:45.960 --> 01:18:50.520
Thanks for you guys. Brother,
you have a great night and keep

1104
01:18:50.560 --> 01:18:55.039
the five pro stay lifted and gifted
you two. Thanks guys. And this

1105
01:18:55.720 --> 01:18:59.159
is Mark Mason with a page and
living in a virtual world. You gotta

1106
01:18:59.199 --> 01:19:29.720
check him out. Back to the
eighties radio in the world line matrix exaggerated

1107
01:19:30.079 --> 01:19:36.840
story line emmotio was stated, I
got a lot of friends out there,

1108
01:19:39.119 --> 01:19:45.600
but I maver map down. I
was at LABBI share. I don't think

1109
01:19:45.640 --> 01:20:05.439
I'm one zero one zero one world. My mind a virtue ward sailing at

1110
01:20:05.520 --> 01:20:20.159
the brain and virtue. I never
want to leave a virtue my phone.

1111
01:20:21.880 --> 01:20:30.119
You want to be a sideless star. You want to follow, so you

1112
01:20:30.359 --> 01:20:44.039
change your is a creek guy of
simulating over drive. It's amazing highway going

1113
01:20:44.439 --> 01:20:58.479
sideless down on every way. Wanderer
one zero wants to in the virtue.

1114
01:21:00.159 --> 01:21:10.680
I'm about my mind. Never hurt
your car out there, you blind living.

1115
01:21:10.880 --> 01:21:20.159
Never hurt your world. A wand
Ben hurt your word getting on my

1116
01:21:20.600 --> 01:21:59.000
phone one your one, your wild
one one little one and then hurt your

1117
01:21:59.199 --> 01:22:13.840
word about hurt you or telling the
frame to tell hurt you word. I

1118
01:22:13.960 --> 01:22:24.359
don't ever want to be the man
vertue the world, cap my phone in

1119
01:22:25.159 --> 01:22:35.119
the world on line singing the matrix
exaggerated story line. Emogio was sated.

1120
01:22:36.680 --> 01:22:47.720
I gotta lot of friends out there
when I never laughed down. Don't think

1121
01:22:47.840 --> 01:23:51.319
your friend one your one, your
one living in virtual You've been listening to

1122
01:23:51.439 --> 01:23:56.159
the one and only Back to the
Eighties radio show. I'm Tuscano, and

1123
01:23:56.279 --> 01:24:00.039
I just want to say thank you
for joining us and throughout our talk of

1124
01:24:00.119 --> 01:24:01.840
the things that we weren't supposed to
do in the eighties but we still did.

1125
01:24:02.319 --> 01:24:05.960
Told you we have some good stuff
and some bad stuff to talk about

1126
01:24:06.000 --> 01:24:10.439
the eighties. They weren't all good
and the bad stuff has made us learn

1127
01:24:11.000 --> 01:24:15.359
lots of valuable life lessons. And
one of the biggest lessons we have today

1128
01:24:15.119 --> 01:24:19.920
is that we can tell you for
a fact that it's much better to get

1129
01:24:20.079 --> 01:24:25.439
high on life from myself and I
know from chang. We want to wish

1130
01:24:25.479 --> 01:24:29.239
you a happy week, a safe
week, and we'll talk to you next

1131
01:24:29.279 --> 01:24:31.960
Friday on Back to the Eighties.
Chang here till next Friday, and I

1132
01:24:32.039 --> 01:24:35.720
release you to another weekend. Have
a changtastic weekend. And remember, do

1133
01:24:35.920 --> 01:24:40.520
not drink and drive. You might
kill somebody, You may kill yourself.

1134
01:24:40.600 --> 01:24:45.279
Think of somebody else beside yourself.
Do something big, stand for something bigger

1135
01:24:45.279 --> 01:24:48.000
than yourself. And remember always put
a smile on your face. Don't let

1136
01:24:48.119 --> 01:24:53.239
nothing get you down, let no
one bully you till next Friday when you

1137
01:24:53.359 --> 01:24:58.520
hear me in Tiscano's beautiful voices,
I beat you an audios asta manana,

1138
01:24:58.600 --> 01:25:02.239
asta la vista, sayanara. It's
all my homies in the barrio. Orderly

1139
01:25:02.359 --> 01:25:15.880
put save me back.