March 18, 2022

Was the Music Industry Destroyed by Streaming Services and the Record Labels?

Was the Music Industry Destroyed by Streaming Services and the Record Labels?
Was the Music Industry Destroyed by Streaming Services and the Record Labels?
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Was the Music Industry Destroyed by Streaming Services and the Record Labels?
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Today we talk about our belief that the record label executives and today's streaming services have utterly destroyed the industry and have hurt the pockets of those struggling to perform.

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Me back, ladies and gentlemen,
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Toscatto and Chang. Rather than himself bringing

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a thous voices in his head,
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ears. For the greatest friend that
I have because he paid me to say

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so too. Welcome everybody to back
to the eighties radio, and of course

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I want to thank everybody who's listened, who's taking the time right now to

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listen to the dynamic duo of right
back to the eighties Radio. Today we

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have a killer show because today's topic, of course, has to do if

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streaming has killed the music industry.
Today, Chang, I do want to

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give a special shout out to everybody
from the Ukraine who is fighting for their

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life, for those who are fighting, for those in the trenches, for

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the leaders of that country, for
the people who had to flee, for

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the people who had to stay,
and for the people who are suffering losses

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and injury from that nation. I
concur with everything you said. A special

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shout out to shout out Ray Oh
my god, I can't believe that with

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such a tongue with Jared Tuts.
Anyway, my shout out to everybody out

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there that is wearing a gu Jitsu
keshirt right now. And I want to

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give a special shout out to all
our armed forces and everybody out there that

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is on first response and first defense, and we all know who I'm talking

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about, everybody in our medical staff, our police forces, are fire forces,

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and everybody in between. I also
want to give a shout out to

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all you single moms, single dads, special shout out to all your school

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teachers, you go above and beyond. A shout out to you. Also

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a big shout out to everybody out
there wearing plaid shirts. You know who

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you are. That note. This
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Eighties Radio. We're gonna be right
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And now back to the eighties with
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Toscato and Chang and welcome on another
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whole new generation to understand and to
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And of course, as my compadre
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to introduce him. For those of
you who just joined us right now.

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We can't do, of course,
this program alone. It's not a one

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man show. It is a show
where we need the man who some say

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that under his head of hair he
has another head of hair the same size,

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and that underneath that head of hair, he's got a poster of Robert

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Smith from The Cure. He has
also been known as the undercover third member

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of the Thompson Twins, and it
is told behind the scenes that he is

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the one responsible for firing Donald Trump. Today with us is the one and

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only Chang, So Chang, how'd
you like that one? Oo Oh,

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My credibility just lives on way beyond
any legacy I could ever leave. Today,

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we have a great show because today
we have actually something very informative to

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share with all of you. And
it's kind of a rant as well,

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and it's something that's been on my
mind for a long time. I know

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it's been on the mind of Chang
and everybody who's from the era of the

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eighties. And that's to talk about
a little bit about the music industry.

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We all know what streaming services are. They originally started as radio stations online

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where you can listen to, you
know, basically any radio station that you

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wanted to. And Pandora was one
of the big ones out there that started

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as a radio station streaming service then
came Apple iTunes. They introduced music,

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but they used to sell songs for
ninety nine cents, you'll recall. But

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then they went ahead and started streaming, and you do pay a service for

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that stream so they did change.
So I'm going to leave them out just

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for a bit because today's rent is
specifically for the big boy that is Spotify.

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For those of you who are not
aware, Spotify was launching two thousand

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and eight. Music streaming. As
I mentioned, it already existed and unlike

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the other streaming platforms, now here's
how they differ between all the other platforms.

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When it first started, Spotify encourage
users to create multiple playlists. What

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that did is that allowed the company
to understand you and my choices. So

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what they would do is they would
hit you with those choices day after day

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after day that every time you listen
to and subliminal the ride, right,

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it was all part of a curated
algorithm. I'm seriously, seriously on the

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verge of never listening to streaming music
again after you hear this. We would

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think that Spotify treats all the bands
and all the artists like it treats the

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big ones, right, And what
I mean the big ones is you know,

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everybody who's extremely famous right now,
Drake and Rake and Chicken bake,

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right, but they don't. Let
me tell you why. Spotify has over

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one hundred million subscribers. They have, they have over two hundred and seventeen

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million listeners, with one hundred million
of those pain like ten bucks, and

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then after that, if you want
the premium or family, it's fifteen ninety

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nine. So it's five dollars for
students, ten bucks if you want the

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service for yourself, and it's sixteen
dollars if you want it for the entire

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family. Okay, it's a couple. But yeah, so that's a lot

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of cash. Now wait till i've
read you this, and you can find

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this, by the way, on
the McGill International review. All right,

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just looked at up the McGill mc
gill International Review and that was on September

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first, twenty twenty, so this
is a pretty recent review. Spotify pays

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the bands. How about if we
hear somebody who's famous talk about what he

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thinks is the problem. By the
way, this is Jean Simmons from Kiss.

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It's a disaster. It's a disaster
because the fans have decided and they've

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been trained to not pay for music. And that means the next big I

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was, it's free. Imagine a
supermarket. Farmers have worked all their lives

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to grow the fruit and the stuff, and the trucks and the unions that

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bring it to the stores, and
the beautiful stores and the people that work

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there. Imagine walking in there and
being able to walk out with anything you

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want without paying for it. How
long is the farmer going to stay in

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business? How long is retail going
to stay in business? So everything is

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dying because fans have trained themselves not
to pay for the music. Look,

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you're not affecting me. I'm doing
okay, my rents paid. But you're

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killing the new band. You're killing
the next beatles. Look, my daughter

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had a ten million Sophie Simmons had
a ten million viewed single last year,

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two years ago, ten millions.
She made two hundred and fourteen bucks.

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Spotify has taken all the money.
The acts are taking a small percentage of

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one penny per download, which is
a crime. You would think that Jean

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Simmons is just making something up,
but no, look it up. Let

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me tell you how much Spotify pays
bands. And this is I can't even

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begin to explain, brother, how
pissed off. This makes me Spotify currently

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pays an average of zero point zero
zero four three seven, So that's less

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than half a penny per stream,
meaning that it would take three hundred and

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sixty thousand streams per month for an
artist to earn minimum wage. Wow.

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So it's a modern day napster scenario
correct, with music being handed out free.

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And you know what, brother,
with this topic that we are discussing

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right now, you have to hold
fall to the radio corporations because the death

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of radio has enabled the freedom the
piracy, that's a better word. You

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not agree the pira piracy of the
musical industry to obtain this music and distribute

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it freely, and it cheapens the
music business, and it really does rip

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off and cut short the artists of
today who are never going to get that

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real big break for notification and to
make that money they deserve for their creativity.

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So I would blame the radio stations
first of all, and then I

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probably would blame the record labels after
that. And another group that I would

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definitely blame television shows such as American
Idol, Britain's Got Talent, The X

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Factor and all of those shows.
Okay, because what they are selling to

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society today and everybody who watches this, for some reason, is ignorant of

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this fact that they are selling to
these want to be new bands. They

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are selling them fame over a paycheck. We're going to sell you all the

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fame, but they're not telling them
what they're missing out on. Let me

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give you a clear example. There's
a case of a UK based classical violinist.

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The artist's name is Tasmin Little.
This person has over six hundred thousand

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monthly listeners. She was paid twelve
pounds thirty four cents equal to about maybe

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ten dollars for six months of streaming
on Spotify, a period in which she

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would have had almost four million total
streams. Listen to what Corey Taylor from

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slipknot. Listen to what he says
about Tool. There's a reason that Tool

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waited as long as they did to
put this stuff up on streaming services because

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they knew they weren't going to be
compensated for something that they work their asses

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off. Or The difference between streaming
and radio is you make money off radio

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because of the publishing that's involved with
streaming. There really is no publishing that

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has promised that money goes directly to
and technically it's mechanicals goes directly to the

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label. Yeah, so the label
is making huge amounts of money and they

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are not contractually bound to pay us
for that because of what they call new

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technology. We don't have a problem
with people listening to our music. What

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we have a problem with is these
streaming services basically treating it like like we

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owe them, which is not the
way it should be. And at the

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end of the day, what he's
saying, basically, the one who's making

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all the bills is the record label
because what they do is they go to

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the artist and they say, oh, you know, you're you're great,

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but you know you're only going to
get a certain amount of songs that you're

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actually going to do. We're going
to tell you what fits, we're going

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to tell you what sounds good,
and then you're going to get a percentage

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of that. Do they don't tell
the artist that they're going to be charging

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the artist and they're also going to
be charging the streaming services. Isn't it

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very crafty? How Still the record
company makes the money and pushes what they

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want, and it's just killed the
industry as a hold you not agree.

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My brother radio is dead because of
the industry. That is correct. It

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started during the eighties and it got
killed in the nineties. They take larger

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shares in a music industry which topped
forty three billion dollars in twenty seventeen,

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and only twelve percent of the money
was paid to artists. What is the

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smaller band getting nothing? Yes,
that's the equivalent to your us every day

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going out to our job and working
our eight hour shift and making whatever you

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know, pay weight you're making,
and then getting three quarters of it taken

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away and some fat cats making it
off of your hard ass, busted day.

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It's ridiculous. The music industry has
catered so much to its own pocket

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and what they feel is presentable to
the mass population only shows that they have

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fully believed the hamster effect of the
listener. If you only put so many

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tunnels up, the hamster will soon
learn those tunnels. But if you put

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the hamster in another surrounding, they
will be lost back and forth till they

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figure out there's another tunnel. I
want you to listen to another clip here.

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Look no further than the deals that
the record labels cut with the streaming

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services they got into ownership equity deals
with the streaming surfaces in an arrangement for

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them to have an equity position.
They agreed to very low rates for the

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artists music. But does Spotify in
the other streaming surfaces raise up in their

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equity position, the labels benefit,
So the labels pimped out their own artists

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to take a greater equity position in
a rising business. That was Billy Corgan

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from Smashing Pumpkins and very intelligent India
Yea currently from the National Wrestling Alliance.

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I'm gonna let you here in a
little while Frank Zappa so you can hear

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what he says about the people who
are behind the scenes and all of this.

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Who killed the music industry is the
corporation. I will say, I'm

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not going to go in and say
any big name of any corporations, but

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we all are familiar with the monopoly
of freeform radio at them and AM terrestrial

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radial and all other aspects of radio. First started with control from the FCC,

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who could regulate the type of programming
that they were going to allow on

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their airwaves. Now remember in the
eighties, like you did point out,

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this started, but this started out
pretty much with a Tipper Gore. Yes,

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we should have listened to her husband, Al Gore, because we are

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all dying from global warming. But
yet when she decided to start having music

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rated, that was a bit of
a control conservativism, I think in that

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with the rebellion that outburst after such
ludicrous statements and a position on her part

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made it even worse and more graphic
and raw in your face, and pretty

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much anarchy style entertainment blasted off after
that. My other point is this is

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familiar to me what we're seeing with
the so called radio business of big business

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absorbing real musical talent and watering it
down, giving the listeners pretty much a

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bubblegum pop crap that all sounds the
same. I went through this ordeal when

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I was doing stand up comedy,
and I could see that to make it

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in comedy you have to make it
in the clubs, and you make it

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in the clubs by giving your time
for free. When you have recognition.

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The club addresses that, but it's
all about how much money can you make

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my club? And we will give
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you come every four nights at this
late hour and give, give, give,

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and maybe in a couple of years
you'll get to the next stage.

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I know that you wanted to not
mention some of these big mega companies,

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but I'm gonna tell only if we're
going to have to use them. But

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I'm gonna tell you there's one of
these mega corporations that is in two hundred

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and eighty seven markets in the United
States and owns a bunch of mini companies

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that own radio stations themselves with the
number one giant is as Clear Channel Communications,

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Cox Communications, Cumulus, Disney and
so on. Let's take a let's

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take a quick break. When we
come back, the rant continues on Back

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to the eighties radio. Ladies and
gentlemen, I'm Shadow Stevens, and you

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must listen to Back to the eighties
radio. It's the law. You remember

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the first time you tried these games
space buck with practice cop y'all like see,

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And when you first tried and coke
and you said, no, thank

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you, But let's try and coke
again, because once you got that new

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wave of dast do you want to
try again again and again? No practice

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something catch the way you're number one
for classic where you're listening, you're listening

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back to the eighties. One thing
that did happen during the sixties was some

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music of an unusual or experimental nature
did get recorded and did get released.

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Now, look at who the executives
were in those companies at those times.

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Not hip young guys. These are
cigar chomping old guys who looked at the

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product that came and said, I
don't know who knows what it is recorded,

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stick it out of it's a all
right. We were better off with

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those guys than we are now with
the supposedly hip young executives. And he's

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saying, Wow, we can't take
a chance on this because it's just simply

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that's not what the kids really want. And I'm and I know, you

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know, they got that attitude.
And the day you get rid of their

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attitude and get back to who knows
a chance? You know that that entrepreneurial

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spirit where even if you don't like
or understand what the record is, it's

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coming in the door. The person
who was in the executive chair may not

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be the final arbiter of taste of
the entire population. You know what,

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man, he nailed it right on
the head. Radio. To me,

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is that number one, number one
circuit of freedom. It is the first

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form of entertainment in our culture.
TV came after that great theater of the

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mind was created on the radio.
It was more polished back then to the

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pretty much conservative, average everyday lifestyle
of entertainment, and it transcended into the

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movement the way society moved quickly a
little bit more freer. It's sad because

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now days we have a lot of
these how can I say this nicely?

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No, I won't. These cats
that used to be hippies or used to

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be free spirited have turned into these
yuppy, guppy, sappy ass kissing,

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money grinding, greedy jerk off wads
who have forgotten what free formed talent and

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expression and freedom really are and what
they should be in every asset in America,

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especially when it comes to creativity.
And it just sickens me because we've

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come to the point to where we
are at now. Artists are having to

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work regular day jobs because they are
not allowed to make any type of a

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living with their beautiful spirit and their
creativeness. It's a shame that a lot

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of these beautiful specimens of artists are
getting cut up and sold off to the

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ownerships of these what we call pet
jobs in the music industry, to where

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their beautiful colors and looks are being
bottled getting sold for their own inner beauty,

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and the only one making the cash
is a pet store owner. We

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have formed a generation of people who
are now so entrenched in this way of

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this is how it is that they
now feel that this is the correct way.

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Case in point is a young artist
from a band called the Bad Flower.

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It's a new band, yet they
have the audacity to speak out on

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what is correct and what is incorrect. And I want you to listen to

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this fine young specimen of a millennial. I actually I'm one of the few

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people who's in the music industry that
really likes how things are going, Like

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I like streaming. I don't mind
that people don't buy records anymore. Maybe

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it's just because I've been like I
was born into that sort of and I

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was starting into it once. I
once this became my career, and so

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that makes perfect sense to me how
everything works, and I don't mind it.

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I also feel like the way that
everything is set up now with the

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Internet, anybody who has any bit
of talent has a shot to make it.

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I think that's really cool. So
This is Josh Katz from the band

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called Bad Flower. What I want
to do right now is I want to

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let you hear a little bit of
bad Flower. And this is this is

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rock today. Oh my god,
this guy looks like Justin Bieber with bad

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emotion. See it sounds like Justin
Bieber trying to be sexty as Prince was

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drunk cold Listen home this whole.
Kobe Bryant would call this soft a sit

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in my dreams, but few everyone
still likes me, so it's a It's

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a deeply sad song about his family. I would like to slug my headphones

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see me for allowing the electrical charge
to go through my ears. I also

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feel like the way that everything is
set up now with the Internet, anybody

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who has any bit of talent has
a shot to make it. I think

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that's really cool to make, to
make twelve dollars and thirty five sets.

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Yes, that's exactly I've always wanted
to make. That's the mentality of why

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it's scary that some of the youth
in today's world have no clue, no

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drive, no work ethic, no
no scale of failure or six says his

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mindset is a typical mindset of the
youth that we have allowed to where every

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kid gets a trophy and a sporting
of it. Every kid gets a certificate,

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which is you can never knock a
child down forever failing or achieving over

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others. You teach them the equality, fairness and to dig deep to do

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better. That's how you do it. Giving everybody a trophy and a certificate

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has created the mindset of this little
Justin Bieber looking very He's an emotional type

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kid, you know what I mean, He's got issues to make such a

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song. But not only that,
his mindset it's clouded. The guy takes

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Nirvana lyrics on a whole different level. Let's continue talking about streaming and what

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do you think our listeners, do
you think that streaming killed the music industry?

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One of the biggest contributors to society
being this way are X Factor.

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America's got talent, Britain's got talent, and all the world's got talent.

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What would they do if they had
singers like Dave Grohl? Who's to say

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what they're who's good or not?
Imagine Bob Dylan standing there and singing,

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blowing in the wind in front of
those judges. Sorry, it's a little

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nasally and a little flat. Next, how would you do an American idol?

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Oh? I would never make it
ever in a heartbeat. People need

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to appreciate their voice. I don't
want to sing like someone else would say

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like me. Think about it for
a second as you listen to our next

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guest. I don't agree with the
premise of that show, you know,

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I don't knock the kids who go
on and try it. And I understand

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you want to be stars as kid
rock, by the way, and I

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don't believe. You gotta get some
scars, and you gotta get some feeling.

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And there's a certain path you gotta
take in life with anything you do.

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You know, before you own the
garage, you gotta learn how to

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sweep the floor. I believe that
I was taught that. And I think

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the worst thing in life is the
biggest curse would be to be famous without

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any money. And I think that's
what that show does to a lot of

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people. And I don't think he
needs to be down there. You know,

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I'm telling kids if they can sing
or not, you know, in

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teeny bopper land. You know it's
been said to me too, And I've

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said this many times, and I'll
tell you because it's kind of funny and

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true that a buddy of mine gave
me some crap about things like, who

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do you think you are? Thirty
million people a week to watch that show

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and you're on your high horse saying
they can't use your songs and you say

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it's no good. I go,
well, I go. I'm not a

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mathematician, but the last time I
checked, there's three hundred million people in

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America, and I'd like to talk
to the two hundred and seventy million that

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don't watch that bud ha ha.
Yeah, And he's got a point,

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you know what? They Yeah,
that was he made a great point.

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They all made a great point.
How would it look if the song Hurricane

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by Bob Dylan just came out?
Now, it's a song that was written

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about an individual that was sentenced to
prison, who is innocent of a crime,

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but put in prison and pronounced guilty
due to his skin color. I

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think nowadays, if somebody were to
sing that song of that lyrical content and

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that truth, it would not be
played on a television show, it would

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not be played on the radio,
and it certainly would not be streamed freely

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as everything else. As Dave Grohl
said, they wouldn't make them pass to

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the next level on America's Got Talent
or the X Factor. They just wouldn't

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even give him a chance. Why
because they want every single performer, artist,

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band, whoever it is, to
sound exactly the same. They're creating

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a generation of same sounding suckers and
creating in the youth the mentality that that's

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the way it should be. And
this is the fault of two entities,

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two groups. Number one, I'm
going to tell you who's number one at

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fault at this the listener of streaming
music, because we and I'm going to

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add myself into this, right,
we have been brainwashed as a generation to

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think that the way of the future
is the correct one. We've been brainwashed

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to believe that streaming is the way
to go. Because we've been brainwashed to

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believe that streaming that we should exchange
the experience of going to a record store,

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of visiting a radio station, of
going to a concert, of dreaming

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to be able to meet our favorite
artist or band, and we should exchange

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that for the convenience of downloading a
song. And I've said this many times

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on our program how many people do
you know on their phone that has a

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thousand songs or whatever amount of songs
that have the complete albums. Not many

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people. If you go to young
people's phones, the percentage of them that

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have complete albums, I can probably
tell you is less than one percent.

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Why because they only have playlists with
just they pick and choose what song they

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want. And guess what the irony
of all this. They all sound the

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same, all the artists sound the
same. And number two at fault is

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the actual record label. We've said
this during this show so much. They've

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created this society. They have destroyed
the record labels, have destroyed the radio

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business itself. Now granted, yes, thank god that radio is still there.

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And think ether they're still playing some
radio stations are still playing old stuff

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and they're allowing those bands that they
play to receive their money. But these

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new bands that are streaming, where
is the creativity? Jean Simmons said this,

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where's the new Beatles? You know
he said this in the past.

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Where's the new U two's or the
next Rolling Stones? They're nowhere to be

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found. Why because these record labels
and these big CEOs and corporations have created

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a generation brainwashed to believe that convenience
is better than the experience and a memory.

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This is back to the eighties.
We're gonna be right back. Do

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you love nineteen eighties pop culture and
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a spandex jumpsuit, what can you do

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on this Back back to the eighties? Welcome back to back to eighty.

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With Scaven and Chain, we are
laned deep on what we feel the problem

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with streaming in the music industry as
a whole is. I want you to

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listen to this. It's the sign
of the times, and everybody knows it's

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crap, and there are certain there
are certain crap things that people seem to

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enjoy and they there they are,
and there they stay, and there's nothing

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we can do about it. But
I mean, the very last thing these

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people are are idols, and it's
ludicrous. I mean, it's just it's

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just a game. It's just like
a modern talent show. And I feel

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sympathy for the paper, for the
contestants, and the whole action of ridiculing

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contestants and bringing them down and kicking
them out and watching them cry and kill

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themselves seems to be a part of
modern entertainment. But I don't know anybody

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on the planet who enjoys it.
I think it's just one of those little

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conspiracies. Again, you want to
see something humiliated, Well I don't that,

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Ladies and Gentlemen. Is Morrissey,
and he definitely made a valid point.

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I don't like his music, but
yes, the way he speaks up

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for the truth, and I mean
the sheer essence and his feeling of being

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a musician, he nailed it.
And it's a it's just a shame,

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you know what I mean, Bro, that we have sunk into this level

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in our likes of entertainment to where
we are supposed to be the free enterprise

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correct on every aspect, and we
are to be looked upon as the number

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one leader globally to follow in our
ways. That's why I supposedly we have

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gone to war to push or protect
this pride that we have that we are

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so much better and freer than every
one else. But yet we as a

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nation proclaimed this. But in every
other entity, especially in entertainment, we

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are silenced for one reason or another
to be free with our emotions, our

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creations, and the way that we
portray and lash out with our emotions because

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somebody wants to make that money or
is it to silence what they don't want

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others to hear? These TV shows, The Voice Factor, etc. Etc.

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Weakness They came to damage the fabric
of music. And Dave Grohl was

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on point the fact that unqualified individuals
could judge your singing, because come on,

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what does Howard Stern have to do
with knowing what a good singer is?

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What does Howie Mendel know about goods
singing? Countless others? Why?

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Because they are popular people, because
they bring in the audience, they bring

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in the numbers with what they say. And Simon Cowell himself, who has

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discovered countless of big name bands and
performers, are no longer around, by

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00:35:42.800 --> 00:35:45.599
the way, a lot of them
that he has discovered are not even in

402
00:35:45.639 --> 00:35:51.000
the music industry anymore. If you
go behind the scenes of these programs,

403
00:35:51.079 --> 00:35:55.840
it's all a part of a show. It's reality TV at his best.

404
00:35:57.280 --> 00:36:04.440
We are a society of people who
are being brainwashed into accepting convenience over the

405
00:36:04.519 --> 00:36:07.360
experience. I want you to check
out. We've got just a few more

406
00:36:07.400 --> 00:36:08.840
before we end the show. If
you just joined us, we are talking

407
00:36:08.880 --> 00:36:15.599
about streaming services and asking the question
did they come to destroy and alter the

408
00:36:15.760 --> 00:36:20.320
fabric of music or the mindset of
the listener? Check this out. X

409
00:36:20.360 --> 00:36:24.800
factors a well oiled industrial machine for
the pop industry that only serves the industry,

410
00:36:24.920 --> 00:36:29.199
that certainly doesn't serve the public or
the arts. I don't think the

411
00:36:29.239 --> 00:36:34.000
few that are lucky to get through
a kind of oh very much. You

412
00:36:34.079 --> 00:36:39.079
know, like they've all been trained
or they've already been out doing something that

413
00:36:39.679 --> 00:36:44.519
makes them sound very much the same
if you moved to it today. You

414
00:36:44.559 --> 00:36:49.280
know, somebody like Robert Plant or
Jim Morrison would not get on X Factor.

415
00:36:49.519 --> 00:36:52.119
They wouldn't pass through adition. And
he's right, and that was Rats

416
00:36:52.320 --> 00:36:57.159
Gabies from the Damned by the Way, right, He's absolutely right, my

417
00:36:57.239 --> 00:37:01.559
brother. I'm going to name a
few bands really quick that I think fall

418
00:37:01.599 --> 00:37:08.400
into play because I think they're brilliant
artists, brilliant groups, and I think

419
00:37:08.440 --> 00:37:15.440
that they're very I think they're making
a very decent living. They are pretty

420
00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:20.079
known in rock and roll, but
they could be bigger than what they really

421
00:37:20.079 --> 00:37:25.119
are. And these bands are who
I would would say are picked up something

422
00:37:25.400 --> 00:37:30.360
from the past. They ran with
it. They brought that vibe and they

423
00:37:30.440 --> 00:37:37.000
have that vibe and that soul that
the ones that they portray their music after,

424
00:37:37.360 --> 00:37:44.440
and that would be Vintage Trouble,
Dirty Honey, Rival Sons, the

425
00:37:44.599 --> 00:37:50.400
Struts. These groups to me,
whether they're young, but yet they capture

426
00:37:51.039 --> 00:37:55.199
the essence of what music and rock
and roll is. And yet they do

427
00:37:55.280 --> 00:38:00.559
have a very strong following and they
are starting they made away and they've made

428
00:38:00.599 --> 00:38:07.639
money for themselves. My point is
they are very rarely played on terrestrial radio.

429
00:38:08.400 --> 00:38:14.679
They are very rarely played on networks
where you're going to get their stuff

430
00:38:14.719 --> 00:38:20.199
for free. But they're great bands. And it's a shame that other bands

431
00:38:20.239 --> 00:38:27.320
will get more hits on getting Free
as opposed to the talent that these other

432
00:38:27.360 --> 00:38:30.199
groups that I just mentioned getting well, and they're not going to get the

433
00:38:30.239 --> 00:38:34.559
recognition. Yeah, and they're not
going to get the recognition because the youth

434
00:38:34.679 --> 00:38:40.280
of today, the genres of fourteen
to eighteen year olds, they don't know

435
00:38:40.320 --> 00:38:45.000
who they are. You know,
I was watching tonight special on a bunch

436
00:38:45.079 --> 00:38:52.559
of kids nowadays and a little bit
older gen Z's and a little bit older

437
00:38:52.679 --> 00:38:57.360
or I should say younger of the
millennials. They were wearing Metallica shirts and

438
00:38:57.480 --> 00:39:01.280
Slayers coming back. These people that
are wearing these Metallica shirts. One girl

439
00:39:01.320 --> 00:39:07.039
in particular, she's a famous YouTuber
from England. She collects these Metallica shirts

440
00:39:07.079 --> 00:39:12.039
because she says on her blog on
her video log right, she says that

441
00:39:12.079 --> 00:39:17.559
Metallica is a great brand of clothing. She's never heard of Metallica. Another

442
00:39:17.639 --> 00:39:22.760
guy at a bar was wearing a
Slayer shirt was asked to name one Slayer

443
00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:24.360
song. He says, I'm not
wearing the shirt. I didn't even know

444
00:39:24.400 --> 00:39:28.800
they were a band. And you
ask the majority of the new kids that

445
00:39:28.880 --> 00:39:32.440
they're wearing these. They're wearing it
because it's a fad, because some artist

446
00:39:32.679 --> 00:39:38.159
or some TV person like Kim Kardashian
wearing a Metallica's going to say. You

447
00:39:38.480 --> 00:39:42.880
don't just say, Kim, she's
gorgeous and she's got a brain. I

448
00:39:42.960 --> 00:39:46.760
really dig her vibe, whatever,
whatever, she's a whatever. Wait a

449
00:39:46.760 --> 00:39:51.480
minute before we knock her down.
No, I'm knocking her down. No,

450
00:39:51.880 --> 00:39:55.519
she's doing something for the betterment of
mankind. Now, she's doing at

451
00:39:55.599 --> 00:39:59.960
for the betterment of her and her
No, I'm not talking about her,

452
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:04.480
her look or her fashion, her
on a personal level. She's doing something

453
00:40:04.519 --> 00:40:07.239
away from the camera. But I
will say I wasn't going to name it.

454
00:40:07.360 --> 00:40:08.800
She's doing stuff on the camera too, believe me. Oh yeah,

455
00:40:08.800 --> 00:40:14.119
I believe me, and I love
it. Ha ha. Anyway, the

456
00:40:14.199 --> 00:40:20.719
mark of every celebrity wearing a rock
shirt of the past is trendy Rihanna,

457
00:40:20.960 --> 00:40:27.079
every Kardashian. You go into a
Fergie, you can go into back into

458
00:40:28.000 --> 00:40:35.599
Shakira. It's always been a sexy
trend to be full throttled rock and roll.

459
00:40:35.599 --> 00:40:37.639
Well yeah, but they don't even
know that it's rock and roll exactly

460
00:40:37.639 --> 00:40:44.199
exactly. But that's shful. My
point is leading into your point. A

461
00:40:44.280 --> 00:40:47.960
lot of the things that you see
nowadays, every trend is used for a

462
00:40:49.079 --> 00:40:55.239
sexism rather than a statement coming from
the eighties or before that, depending on

463
00:40:55.360 --> 00:41:00.679
how you looked or the music you
enjoyed and how that brought your spirit out

464
00:41:01.599 --> 00:41:07.519
or hobably they incorporated with others just
like you. The magnitude of that was

465
00:41:07.639 --> 00:41:14.239
heavier than what you look like or
how cool or badass you looked, as

466
00:41:14.280 --> 00:41:19.719
opposed just because the music that you
listen to, but it makes you look

467
00:41:19.760 --> 00:41:22.920
cool. That is the difference.
Wait, listen to listen to me.

468
00:41:23.519 --> 00:41:30.599
That's the difference between the millennial who
grab the look to look good. They

469
00:41:30.639 --> 00:41:35.960
don't have the substance. They have
the look as opposed to in the days

470
00:41:36.400 --> 00:41:40.400
when you had the look and you
wore that because of the substance that He

471
00:41:40.599 --> 00:41:46.440
created you to be the spirit that
you were. Nowadays, they just use

472
00:41:46.519 --> 00:41:52.159
it to look good, salve shit, make money, and look the look

473
00:41:52.679 --> 00:41:59.320
that's going to bring in the money. The false fanmanship of real music.

474
00:41:59.679 --> 00:42:04.360
If if Rihanna were to go out
in a Judas Priests shirt, cut all

475
00:42:04.599 --> 00:42:12.239
slinky down and sing a badass song, you'll see thousands of cats that don't

476
00:42:12.280 --> 00:42:16.840
have any idea of Judas Priests or
that tour wearing it. Why because they

477
00:42:16.880 --> 00:42:22.360
want to look hot or badass like
Rihanna. The music industry has pumped that

478
00:42:22.480 --> 00:42:31.199
into us visit with visually and with
our ears. They pump out only certain

479
00:42:31.239 --> 00:42:36.880
stuff they know is going to grab
people. That's trendy. Because people are

480
00:42:37.039 --> 00:42:42.920
lazy and easy to conform to what's
cool. It doesn't matter. They'll do

481
00:42:42.960 --> 00:42:50.079
it visually, they'll do it subconsciously. Is the whole thing? Subliminal ways

482
00:42:50.400 --> 00:42:55.239
to change the things to make them
more money? Well that's what I think.

483
00:42:55.360 --> 00:43:00.519
Well yeah, but still it doesn't
make it right, you know.

484
00:43:00.639 --> 00:43:06.679
And so here's the thing, bro, I I have something totally against the

485
00:43:06.719 --> 00:43:10.320
people wearing shirts like that. You
wouldn't be Back in the eighties, when

486
00:43:10.559 --> 00:43:17.119
did you see a Duran Duran lover
or the Cured lover wearing a shirt that

487
00:43:17.159 --> 00:43:22.039
said Judas Priest because it was cool. Never? When did you see a

488
00:43:22.159 --> 00:43:27.800
cholo wear a shirt that said sex
Pistols. Never? Because they knew what

489
00:43:27.920 --> 00:43:30.280
it represented. They knew the groups, whether they liked it or not,

490
00:43:30.679 --> 00:43:34.519
whether they liked it or not,
they knew who they were and they knew

491
00:43:34.559 --> 00:43:37.079
some of their songs even though they
didn't like them, but they wouldn't wear

492
00:43:37.079 --> 00:43:43.039
it just to make a statement.
Today, they don't give a flying hoot

493
00:43:43.599 --> 00:43:46.000
for all this. They just look
at it. Yeah, yeah, so

494
00:43:46.039 --> 00:43:52.159
they're just looking at it as as
a fashion statement, a fad and you

495
00:43:52.199 --> 00:43:55.920
know what, fine, but that's
not bringing with me. Well, yes

496
00:43:55.960 --> 00:44:00.679
and no, But I disagree in
the sense that Kim Cardad. I know

497
00:44:00.719 --> 00:44:02.079
who she is. Of course,
I know the family, I know the

498
00:44:02.480 --> 00:44:08.159
backstories, I know certain things about
videos and okay, but to me,

499
00:44:08.280 --> 00:44:17.119
it's a person who brings nothing positive
to society nowadays. Now regardless whether whether

500
00:44:17.159 --> 00:44:21.719
she does or doesn't, I don't
even care. Okay, I don't even

501
00:44:21.719 --> 00:44:28.159
care, because the point today is
we're trying to discuss that streaming music has

502
00:44:28.360 --> 00:44:36.599
destroyed something and that's the way we
had we had experienced music and therefore not

503
00:44:36.679 --> 00:44:40.159
allowing the newer generation to experience music. And you know what, here's the

504
00:44:40.320 --> 00:44:45.480
sad part about all of this music
industry as we once knew it will never

505
00:44:45.519 --> 00:44:52.039
come back. It's dead, it's
gone, It's never coming back that way.

506
00:44:52.280 --> 00:44:57.480
Never. There will never be anymore
life altering changing music that will live

507
00:44:57.480 --> 00:45:01.920
on for generations. Once I I
gave any kind of a praise to Kim

508
00:45:02.000 --> 00:45:07.400
Kardashian, you you didn't listen to
anything I said. No I did.

509
00:45:07.559 --> 00:45:12.000
But wait now, wait, let
me let me reiterate all the way back.

510
00:45:12.239 --> 00:45:15.159
No, don't go on with it. No. No. The topic

511
00:45:15.239 --> 00:45:20.159
we got on is great bands are
worn nowadays for a trend. Nobody knows

512
00:45:20.159 --> 00:45:23.079
the real music it's used for a
trend. Well, yeah, it falls

513
00:45:23.119 --> 00:45:29.119
on the use of nowadays, but
I also blame that on the lack of

514
00:45:29.320 --> 00:45:37.719
knowledge and the lack of being able
to get that music as a daily dose.

515
00:45:37.119 --> 00:45:40.119
So yeah, radio is not listened
to like it used to be.

516
00:45:40.440 --> 00:45:45.880
Right, people will pop in their
phone or the bluetooth in your vehicle right

517
00:45:46.199 --> 00:45:50.440
back to get the good music,
you had to get in your car,

518
00:45:50.480 --> 00:45:52.880
and if you were in your car, sometimes you didn't even get early cell

519
00:45:52.920 --> 00:45:57.320
phone range, so you had to
rely on the music coming out of your

520
00:45:57.320 --> 00:46:00.760
speaker in your car. That has
been right. So a lot of the

521
00:46:00.840 --> 00:46:06.800
youth nowadays doesn't get that music right. So without that music being played into

522
00:46:06.840 --> 00:46:13.000
their minds every day, it's not
getting into their crawl space to create that

523
00:46:13.119 --> 00:46:17.119
music, to appreciate that music.
So they're going to go and stream to

524
00:46:17.239 --> 00:46:23.400
get what they like for free,
which stands out better for them than them

525
00:46:23.440 --> 00:46:29.639
grabbing that for free. And then
maybe hey, I like that kind of

526
00:46:29.719 --> 00:46:34.079
style. What else do they have? And the thing is, then the

527
00:46:34.119 --> 00:46:37.519
individual want to pay a little bit
more money to get bands that sound like

528
00:46:37.559 --> 00:46:45.320
what they heard on the radio for
free. That will create a economy for

529
00:46:45.480 --> 00:46:51.960
the artist, the network, and
the listener goes back to old school and

530
00:46:52.039 --> 00:46:55.199
pays a dividend to get that music. Yeah, well that's wishful thinking.

531
00:46:55.239 --> 00:47:00.679
That'll never happen. It's dead.
It It hurts me to my soul because

532
00:47:00.719 --> 00:47:05.320
we grew up in a very different
age. Check this out. They give

533
00:47:05.320 --> 00:47:08.920
you a platform to go and to
be an artist. By the way,

534
00:47:08.960 --> 00:47:16.159
this gentleman is a winner of X
Factor in the UK Steve Brookstein, I

535
00:47:16.199 --> 00:47:21.920
believe his name is. They give
you a platform to go and to be

536
00:47:22.000 --> 00:47:25.079
an artist, but only if you're
the artists they want you to be.

537
00:47:25.599 --> 00:47:30.039
And if you don't be that artist
they want you to be, then that

538
00:47:30.159 --> 00:47:35.079
opportunity that's telling you've got isn't really
there. And listen to the last one,

539
00:47:36.079 --> 00:47:38.559
and a lot of you will not
know who this is. Even if

540
00:47:38.599 --> 00:47:44.000
I said his name is al Jourgensen. Now I know you do chang.

541
00:47:44.199 --> 00:47:50.360
He is from a band called Ministry. Listen to him. The music industry,

542
00:47:51.360 --> 00:47:53.360
it is a joke. Every band
that they signed, they tried to

543
00:47:53.360 --> 00:48:00.079
make sound like the last band to
perpetuate this myth of that's what music should

544
00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:06.159
be. That bit them in the
ass because now we're down to watching literally

545
00:48:06.920 --> 00:48:15.440
America's besting singer or dancing with singers
or whatever. The reality they got going

546
00:48:15.079 --> 00:48:21.880
as our source of popular music,
but we still don't get paid for anything

547
00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:27.400
we do, and we travel around
town to town hoping for scraps of food

548
00:48:27.400 --> 00:48:30.960
and taking it back. I totally
agree with him. He was fan right

549
00:48:30.039 --> 00:48:35.320
all the way. Ministry of a
great baton man. Dude, I dug

550
00:48:35.400 --> 00:48:38.719
their music. I checked him out
at a gig before. Anyway, you

551
00:48:38.760 --> 00:48:45.920
can go back and blame acts such
as Madonna, Drew Duran, Duran.

552
00:48:46.440 --> 00:48:50.519
I'll even go out and say the
Stones, why are you Why are you

553
00:48:50.519 --> 00:48:52.760
gonna blame them? Why are you
gonna wait a minute, now, wait

554
00:48:52.800 --> 00:48:55.639
a minute, listen to me,
Okay, take it easy. Now they

555
00:48:55.639 --> 00:49:00.800
attacking the music you love? What
mean? Why are you gonna blame the

556
00:49:00.800 --> 00:49:06.519
bands. No, I'm saying that
was the that was the founder, that

557
00:49:06.639 --> 00:49:13.880
was the model that everybody after the
pretense of those certain artists came to emulate.

558
00:49:14.719 --> 00:49:16.960
And those are the artists that kind
of took music to a trendy,

559
00:49:17.119 --> 00:49:25.119
poppy kind of context. But it
created the leadership for generations after After that,

560
00:49:25.199 --> 00:49:30.079
it's kind of become the same.
A lot of pop music artists will

561
00:49:30.159 --> 00:49:37.039
only dance with choreography moves and then
sing with headpieces. Look, all sexy

562
00:49:37.400 --> 00:49:42.239
boy bands evolved. What happened to
Motown? It died, but did it

563
00:49:42.320 --> 00:49:46.199
really? It came back in a
poppy form. Hard rock went like bon

564
00:49:46.360 --> 00:49:52.440
Jovi, Motley Crewe opened the door
for other type of weaker bands. So

565
00:49:52.920 --> 00:49:59.480
in essence, would you not say
our generation of pop music, how we

566
00:49:59.559 --> 00:50:07.559
allow music and haul the music business
and corporations kind of watered down music to

567
00:50:07.679 --> 00:50:14.639
fit those certain forms is why music
sucks more or less nowadays. No,

568
00:50:14.840 --> 00:50:17.519
can you? No, I do
not agree. I don't agree with that.

569
00:50:17.639 --> 00:50:22.360
I don't agree because those were band
listeners. Those were bands, well

570
00:50:22.480 --> 00:50:28.000
listeners. They don't agree trust me. Back then, when they came out

571
00:50:28.239 --> 00:50:34.000
Rolling Stones and any other band,
Duran, Duran, Madonna they were the

572
00:50:34.079 --> 00:50:38.000
first of their kind. Okay,
there weren't. They weren't copying anyone else.

573
00:50:38.440 --> 00:50:42.599
No, No, I know,
I know I'm making a point,

574
00:50:42.880 --> 00:50:46.719
but there there are trend setters.
Now. It's obvious every generation is going

575
00:50:46.800 --> 00:50:52.480
to copy something of the generation that
just passed. It's obvious, and that's

576
00:50:52.559 --> 00:50:55.840
fine. Just don't copy him so
much to where you go. Now,

577
00:50:57.079 --> 00:50:59.559
I'm gonna give you an example.
Two days ago, we were at Rubio's

578
00:50:59.639 --> 00:51:01.800
with my own their son. I
go to my son, you know what,

579
00:51:01.840 --> 00:51:05.199
I go to the bathroom to wash
my hands, wash my hands,

580
00:51:05.199 --> 00:51:08.559
and I'm listening to the music that's
in the speaker, and guess what.

581
00:51:08.800 --> 00:51:12.559
It was a Hall and Oates song. But guess what it wasn't Hall and

582
00:51:12.639 --> 00:51:16.639
Oates. It was some crappy band
today singing a Hall and Oates song,

583
00:51:16.679 --> 00:51:22.039
which I'm grateful for because they're entertaining
people with an eighties song. But the

584
00:51:22.159 --> 00:51:25.079
new kids now, they're saying,
oh, that's a great song that this

585
00:51:25.280 --> 00:51:30.480
band came out with, and they
don't recognize that it was Hall and Oates

586
00:51:30.599 --> 00:51:34.760
who started it. And that gets
me ticked off. Bro, it wasn't

587
00:51:34.920 --> 00:51:38.000
the bands from our generations. Now, I'm not saying that they were perfect,

588
00:51:38.400 --> 00:51:43.880
because they weren't. All they were
after was fame and money. But

589
00:51:44.000 --> 00:51:46.599
you know what, they reached it, but it cost them an arm and

590
00:51:46.679 --> 00:51:51.679
a leg, and in some cases
it cost them their life. This is

591
00:51:51.719 --> 00:51:54.000
back to the eighties. We're gonna
be right back. We're going to wrap

592
00:51:54.039 --> 00:51:59.719
things up. Greatest vocalists, indeed, the greatest Bosi religious figure of the

593
00:52:00.280 --> 00:52:05.000
century, can only be done.
Oh that's right, Tom don Hoe.

594
00:52:05.119 --> 00:52:07.000
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595
00:52:07.000 --> 00:52:08.519
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596
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598
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599
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600
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601
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Escape from the Long Cold Wind to a

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cinderellic contest Peelbox twelve eighty Radio City
Station, New York, New York one

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one one. What about dot ho
oh? That was just a gimmick.

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No, back to good, wholesome, politically correct entertainment. Oops rog station.

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No. Back to the eighties with
Tescato and Chay. Welcome back to

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back to the eighties. Are discussing
streaming now. Tuscano and I are on

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a heavy rock'em soock'em robot discussion on
streaming radio, and I will as Tascano

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brought up his magnificent points of course, my brother right, yeah, whatever

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of whatever bar you, But anyway, I was not disrespecting the artists of

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Madonna or Duran Duran and the success
that they did have. My blame was

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to the corporations that ran music,
that held them captive to look sexy,

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which became the format in the forefront
of what music was to be to make

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it in the industry and make money
and what everybody wanted because everybody looked really

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freaking sexy. After that, it's
been trickled down and the talent is less

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as it was prior to them,
but everybody looks sexy. That's where radio

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has gone wrong. Music has gone
wrong. We've lost the true essens and

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the substance of true music and what
that vibe and that connection is to what

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people look like. That's all I
was saying, my brother. All right,

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you heard it from the mouth of
the Wizard himself. This has been

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back to the eighties radio. I
want to thank you guys for joining us.

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We'll be back next Friday with a
lot more. We may even go

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into a part two on this discussion. I don't know. It depends on

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how hard I want to beat down
on metal music. Anyway, This is

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to Scotto from Scotto and Chang.
We just want to thank you for joining

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us and giving us your time once
again. Have a great week, a

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safe one, and wherever you are, think about the people that are fighting

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in Ukraine and even the ones that
are fighting in Russia. There's a lot

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of people that are losing their life
who have nothing to do with all of

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this. So on behalf of myself. I just want to wish you a

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great week. God bless all right
everybody. Before I release you to another

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fantastic week. It me and just
kind of had a knock down drag out.

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Oh it was a great It was
a rock'em sock'em robot game.

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Remember that that game, brother,
when we were young. I do

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the robots. That's what we're going
through tonight. Huh. It's great.

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He's really strong and he's to night
and uh, for those of us that

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can only see him through my eyes, he looks sexy. He looks like

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he's trimmed. But I'm also wearing
my Kung Pu Sun suu and I'm also

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wearing sunglasses at night, and he's
hard classes at night. Yes, he's

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corey hard for some reason. So
I release you into the next week.

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I bid you all to remember,
stay lifted and give it. Tomorrow is

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not promised. No, it's not. Go out there and stand up for

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something bigger than yourself. Stand up
with your brother or your sister next to

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you, and always remember, do
not let anything get you down, for

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negativity is not the way to prosperity. Only unity with a smile is that

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way. So I bid you all
in audios asta mananastalla vista astellawago, sayanaa

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agato, and to all my surf
cats later bro and all my valley dolls,

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lady dude, and to all my
home he said, are in the

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vodio toscano that may think you're coconuts, said, I bid you an all,

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oh me back till night. My
get's already whoa he for my so