Were You Bullied in the '80s? What about today?

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an intro to one of the most
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ten Chimpanzee, ten in one room
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Speak no evil, and see no
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on the back and still turn his
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body in those shirts and answer you
in both language. I give you my

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number one compadre, mister Toscano Tusky. I likea you, I likea you

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gave me a twisted sister reference there, this is the one. It'ly back

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to the Eighties radio show. Thank
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Friday, And of course we are
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Now to my right, your left, I have to introduce a man who

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has been said that his skin has
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Hot Hot by the Cure. We've
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Friday, my friend, ha ha, Happy Friday, and a happy Friday

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do you? And a happy Friday
two everyone out there, because remember we

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love you. Yeah, baby Tusky, how the seven three double hockey sticks?

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Are you doing this? Fine?
A lot of It's funny because you

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just gave a reference to beeper the
way we used to write hell on the

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beepers. Right. Do you like
the way that I dazzled you with that?

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You know what meant back in the
eighties. Remember, if you had

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a beeper, you were either a
doctor, a gynecologist, or a drug

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dealer, a pimp, a pambel. That's probably true. How down I

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think Cinnamon is trying to get a
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to a payphone. And it's funny
because when we did have the beepers,

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we found a way to write different
words upside down. Remember that, So

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we could write just a bunch of
things in code sometimes and people will be

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wondering, like what's going on.
I want to welcome you guys on another

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edition of Back to the Eighties Radio. We're gonna be taking a ride today

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and we're gonna be talking about something
that is pretty dang serious, the memories

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of bullying. So stay tuned,
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Back to the eighties, we don't
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we also talk about the stuff that
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Of course, today we're going to
be talking about bullying in the eighties.

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I remember we've talked about this subject
a couple of times, but not

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in depth. We've talked about statistics, and we went more on the technical

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side. But if we can go
this time more on the personal side and

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maybe share with every listener, maybe
something that we can identify with in relation

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to bullying. And I know that
you've talked to me many times before about

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some of your experiences, and maybe
I think that a lot of our listeners

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would really need to hear one of
those stories. First of all, bullying

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is a punk gass, a way
to prove that you're being dominant. I

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remember as a kid, I used
to get bullied, you know, a

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skinny kid wearing glasses, you know
what I mean. My ears were kind

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of big, I thought, my
sister always said, kind of awkward looking

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and getting bullied. It played hell
because you get bullied, you get mocked.

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You know, girls lap you,
so you lose that gut to where

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a man you think it can get
the girls, and you know, you

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go through a time where you're the
joke and the butt of everything. It

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can do a lot of damage to
a young kid. You know, it

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could break your confidence forever, or
you could learn to rise above it.

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For me as a kid, you
know, it went on, you know,

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continuously, and finally, you know, I went and talked to my

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dad, my grandpa, my godfather, and you know, they got me

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some gloves, started teaching me how
to handle myself physically. As a kid,

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I used to always like to watch
comics, so my old man would

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let me watch a lot of these
rank comedians and he would tell me,

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I'm letting you watch these things.
I want you to see how these guys

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act on their feet. That way, you don't always have to fight,

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but you can now intellectually talk a
bully down or use your sense of humor

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to get around it. Now,
that was the format that my dad gave

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me, which I thought it was
pretty damn good advice. I gave similar

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advice to my children when they were
going to school about bullies. I found

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that with his gift of gab that
I had learned that I can now turn

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the tables on a bully, that
I could stand up to a bully,

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and if I'm prepared to physically have
an altercation, I'm pretty confident that I

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can get through that fight. Okay. But here's the kicker. With studying

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comedians and watching comics and listening to
what my father said, I learned how

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to diffuse a bully in their footsteps
by ridiculing them and making them the joke

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as opposed to myself. You find
out that a lot of times the bully

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is a lot like you, feeling
a little bit inadequate. But yet they

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have this one force and power within
themselves that's like their talent to put people

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in fear. So they utilized it. And once that I found that I

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could make jokes and hecko a bully
down to everyone is now turned the table

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and lapping at them. That I
learned that is my strength. That is

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another power. So I learned that
maybe that individual bullying me is not such

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a bad person. Maybe they got
some shit going down at home that they

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don't know how to deal with.
Maybe they've got an abusive parent, Maybe

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there's some type of some type of
substance abuse or something of that nature.

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Sure, because it starts somewhere,
right, They don't just start off being

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bullies. Something happens that anger is
like a plant. There's so many things

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like a plant. Anger is like
a plant. It's going to start taking

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root, and all the negativity is
the water, the nutrients that are building

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the anger to fortify, to grow
the roots, to grow this human,

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longest strong tree, which is your
temper. And it's very hard to knock

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that tree down once it's been grounded
and it's been you know, nutrition has

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been given to it, so it
stands to be a force. Yeah,

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that's what anger is, and that's
what bulling kind of creates. So it's

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just a negative negative all the way
around for the bully and the individuals getting

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bullied. As we take it into
the eighties, bulling was bad when we

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were growing up in the eighties.
You recall all about it. I do

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remember. Yeah, there was a
lot of kids. I granted, I

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think I was preyed upon one time. And the interesting thing is that I

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was pretty good with my words.
However, what I had against me is

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that I looked like the good kid
from next door. So I never,

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you know, never really got picked
on. But I did look like the

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clean cut kid next door, and
I kind of hated that image. I

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hated and I liked the image because
it did keep me out of a lot

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of trouble and I could fake it
really, really well. I was a

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good actor. However. Yeah,
so one time, and this what happened.

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As I was a freshman. This
is right before class. We were

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already in class before that second bell
rang, and I remember that this kid

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started. We used to call capping
or bagging, basically where we try to

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put the other person down. So
this kid saw that he was losing and

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my friends, everybody in the class
was making fun of him. And he

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was a lot bigger than I was. He was in the wrestling team.

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He couldn't take it anymore. So
he started making jokes about my mom,

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and to me, I was like, well, that's easy because I got

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million jokes about moms. So I
started talking to him about the greatness of

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his mother and how she performed services
on you know, we won't go there,

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So I said a bad joke about
his mom. Then that second bell

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ring, So I went up to
sit down second seat to the front of

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the class. In front of me
was one of my buddies who wasn't the

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football team. And all of a
sudden, I see a hand going around

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my peripheral vision on my left side, and the hand turns over and it

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was just so fast I could have
moved. I froze, but I didn't

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see that he had a pencil and
he stabbed me right in my arm.

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And he broke the pencil in my
arm. Wow. And so I took

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the pencil out like in a movie. I just dug it out of my

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skin and I lunged towards him,
and I'll never forget. So my friends

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got me, they got him,
and the teacher said, what's going on?

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You know? So I told her
what happened, and she says,

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well, okay, well go to
the nurse if you need to. Just

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very simple and playing. Just go
to nurse if you need to. And

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so I went to nurse's office.
Long story short, I had to get

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a tetanis shot. The kid got
suspended, but I wasn't happy with that.

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So he was a bullet in one
sense. And then I turned into

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the vengeful person because I said,
I'm not gonna feel sorry for him.

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So I put a lock from my
locker between my knuckles, and I basically

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he basically looked like the exaggerated version
of the elephant Man on his forehead.

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Nice. Yeah, you know that's
that's kind of that with a bully back,

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I'd say in the a's in earty
seventies. I mean, you know,

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that's what I was always told by
the males in my family, you

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know what I mean, Always play
it smart, live to fight another day.

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I remember my dad always told me, I don't care if you get

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your ass kicked. Well, what
I do care about is you get back

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up, and you take that time
to heal. Then you get right back

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up and you go knock the shit
out of that person to kick your ass,

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and you keep getting back up until
you annihilate this problem or this individual.

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Yeah, and that's the way I
kind of grew up dealing with the

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bully And like I say, I
was just very lucky that I could have

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my fist at a certain age and
that I was very good with my vocabulary

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and my jokes. Funny thing is
when I left Saint Benedict's in eight when

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in eighth grade, my persona totally
changed. I went from that dorky,

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little nerd to you know, that
guy's got a bad temper to that guy's

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funnier than heck. And it's funny
because I went. When I left there,

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I looked a certain way picture.
I looked kind of like if anybody

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remembers my three sons, Ernie the
youngest brother, I look like that guy.

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Oh nice under the side glasses.
Yeah, kind of big teeth,

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you know what I mean. Yeah, kind of squirrely looking, very common

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look in the seventies. Yeah.
In eighth grade, it all, it

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all changed. Nobody was going to
mess around with me. I'm either going

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to knock your lights out or I'm
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I remember I broke my glasses that
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Now when I went to high school
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school with me at Saint Benedict's that
I had grown up with didn't really recognize

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me. The hair was grown,
a little mustache grown in, the rock

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and roll attire, started kicking in
the rock and roll bracelets, the bad

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boy attitude. The vocabulary was never
the same. I used fu and every

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other four letter word that I could
use, so definitely when I went to

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high school. I had one thing
on my mind. You try to bully

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me, and I'm going to knock
your dick in the dirt, and I'm

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gonna make you cry to your mother, and then I'm going to give your

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mom fifty bucks and enjoy a good
time with her. That was the kind

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of kid that I turned into in
high school. The bully. Yeah.

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I stood up for people, okay, but I was I became a henchman.

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with and I knew that I could
physically or verbally diffuse that situation, then

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I'm going over there and I'm going
to be okay, I'm going to terminate

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the situation right. And the good
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But there was, and you know
what change, There was a lot

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of that going on during the seventies
and eighties. We were more fortunate than

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a lot of people when they came
to a bullying because I do know that

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sometimes during our posts on Facebook,
people will say I hated my school life,

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I hated my high school years,
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because of bullying. And as a
matter of fact, we recently wrote a

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post that said, do you think
that the way bullying is dealt with today

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is more severe compared to how it
wasn't the eighties? There was somebody who

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said that they wished that they could
go back to stand up to their bully,

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if they would have only known that
they could have done that, that

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they had the power. You know, these are things that were ye word,

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and these are things that haunt those
people till today. Let's do this.

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Let's take a break because when we
come back, it's very important because

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we're gonna be touching on a recent
incident that kind of looks too much like

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an eighties bullying scenario. So don't
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episode. So very tentatively, I
dialed the two on three area code and

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I said, this is Jimpeter,
because this really Sylvester Stallone. He goes,

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hey, Jimbo, call me sly. If somebody was gonna say,

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play me something that is a perfect
example of total I would point them to

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Rosanna as opposed to Africa. Africa
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Stay was let's need to money for
nothing, and he just turned around

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to us and said, that's fun. That's it. So Mark said to

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me, well, if you think
it is so good, what are you

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going to sing on that music?
And it was politics, and that really

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is what American Pine is about.
I'm definitely going to hell for the things

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I did after hours in that church
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it never had been intended. Here
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Welcome back to back Hies, which
Taskan and Chang. I am doctor Sigfred

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One Bully fight Schneiken Pan, and
I will tell you if you are bully,

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then you must think like a poop
anyway to that point. That word

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that you brought out power a very
key, crucial word. And this is

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why I say that, what it
means to me once you succumb and give

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become silent. You give power to
the upper hand, the circumstance your nemesis.

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We have fallen into that category with
our politicians. We stay quiet,

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and we are we are in the
prime example right now politically and globally of

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when individuals stay quiet. Yeah,
they allow the power. They give their

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power of silence and say nothing in
standing up for themselves or others to the

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power above the bully. And they
run with this and then they will forever

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use that silence, that fear that
we had to be silent, as the

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power against us with fear tactics.
And we see that in everyday life.

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As a matter of fact, I
believe we in the States are being bull

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we the citizens, by our political
parties of both sets. The whole system

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is kind of acting like a bully. I think nowadays, I don't think

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we deal with our bullies at all
in any type of an according well,

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no, and we can unlike in
other parts of the world where you can

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still get into a fistfight with a
bully and take care of business. Here

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in the United States, they not
only encourage you not to, but you

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get in trouble if you are the
one who was bullied and you defend yourself

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and you accidentally hurt the bully or
do something more severe to the bully.

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Even though this trauma that they caused
you for years or months or whatever it

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is, they won't take that into
consideration and they will put you in jail

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for being the aggressor. It's a
twisted justice system that we have here in

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the United States. I've gone through
that in my youth really quick. I

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stood up for some there was an
altercation, and I ended up getting wrapped

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up in brace. It's going to
jail for a little while for beating up

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the individual that had started the trouble
in the first place. That statement is

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perfect because we see that so many
times. But yet, brother, if

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you have the power, you will
get away with it. That's correct.

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That is correct. There's two examples
I want to give you right now,

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and one of them is the bigger
example, which is what's going on in

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Ukraine with Russia and we are yeah, we're all being held hostage. Everybody

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on earth is being held hostage by
one man with his finger on the red

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button, and the rest of the
countries, the rest of the leaders,

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with the exception of the leader of
Ukraine. He's the only one that's man

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enough to stand up to Putin.
Okay, everybody else, and that includes

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our president here in the United States, and that includes Donald Trump, and

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that includes everybody else, because we're
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regardless of how much more powerful the
United Nations are, regardless of how much

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more powerful any other country is.
Together as a united people, we are

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showing fear. And you mentioned this, We're showing fear, and that fear

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is something that is feeding that bully, and that bully is taking advantage,

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and that bully has now taken hostage
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he's going to press that red button. Let's take an example, and I

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want you to hear something from the
very mouth of a person who was bullied

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this past Sunday at the Oscars.
You have this childhood trauma that you haven't

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dealt with, and you think you've
dealt with it because you're on the radio

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and you talk about it and you
made a lot of money. And I

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think I've dealt with it because I
can write jokes about it, but I

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never dealt with it. That was
just a horrible existence. The closest character

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I can relate to is Tim Robbins
in the show Every Day was Hell.

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I was a nigger and I got
fucking my ass beat and I got physically

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fucked up, and sometimes some sexual
shit happened, and yeah, like I

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wasn't rape but rapeish. I was
doing a movie a couple of years ago,

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and one of my bullies was working
security on the movie, a guy

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who literally one day in school turned
me upside down and shook the money out

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of my pockets. And I'm filming
a scene. This is a top five

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and I look and I'm like,
is that beat? And he nodded kind

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of shame of you know, he
was kind of a shame And I just

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gave him just a quick look like
any may I hope you're doing well,

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take care, and I kept it
moving. I didn't like, get him

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off the set, get him fired. It's like his sin has punished him.

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He could have been my friend.
The fact that he had to go

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through that whole day and watch me
walk around and watch me I was directing

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a movie and watch me be me
and to be so close to me but

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yet so motherfucking far. And Chris
went along and also said that there was

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a point when he gave in to
his anger when he was a kid and

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one of his aggressors, I guess
the worst one for him, he went

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towards him with a brick and he
beat him so bad that he thought that

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he had killed a kid. He
could no longer take it. And you

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could be driven to that point,
and a lot of people, a lot

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of people in the eighties have been
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A lot of people today, a
lot of kids today. We've seen

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this come on, nine year olds
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Girls are just vicious when it comes
to bullying. And yeah, my

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granddaughter is going through that issue,
a little girl in high school right now,

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and it's a terrible thing, cyber
bulling. And I feel helpless because

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I'm over here and she's over there. Yeah, and you want to help,

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but sometimes you're just not in a
position to for and and even if

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you could help, you know,
you end up getting in trouble because our

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justice system is flawed. I think
they would frown upon me beating the hell

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out of the kids, beating the
hell out of the kid's boyfriend, beating

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the hell out of the kids,
parents, beating the hell out of the

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kids. Granmars, I will beat
the hell out of everybody. You had

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mentioned something, you said that unless
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You can get away with things.
We saw that this Sunday at the

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Oscars, and yeah, we're gonna
beat this horse to death here because we're

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going to bring it right back.
Whatever you believe, whether you think Chris

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Rock was out of line or wasn't
out of line, it's irrelevant the for

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this purpose, because the fact is
that Will Smith took it upon himself publicly

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to commit aggression, physical aggression against
a comedian, someone who was saying a

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joke. And it wasn't even a
very funny joke, and it wasn't a

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very bad joke. No, okay, I want you to hear something that

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Paul Rodriguez said today. Now,
Paul Rodriguez is also a comedian. Paul

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Rodriguez was also in a movie with
Will Smith. Believe it or not,

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he was in the movie Ali And
I want you to listen to what Paul

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Rodriguez as he's being interviewed said about
Will Smith. Comedian Paul Rodriguez says,

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he's experienced Will Smith's rage up close, and it's horrible. When he turned

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around that smug that looked like that. I've seen that look before. I

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feel like I got slept every day
with a verbal abuse. Rodriguez worked with

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Will Smith on the two thousand and
one movie Ali. Don't like a rod

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A fog like a big Rodriguez says
during filming, Smith became a real life

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Jacklin Hid. I'd be walking around
and he hurled some insult and you know,

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I just tipped it in and what
am I gonna do? Rodriguez was

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cast as Muhammad Ali's boxing ring physician, doctor Ferdie Pacheco, a role he

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traveled all the way to Africa to
perform for the Rumble in the jungle scenes,

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Rodriguez says, the real life doctor
showed up on the set and that's

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when things turn nasty. The doctor
allegedly ranted that his character didn't have a

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big enough role. Rodriguez says the
doctor hurled racial slurs at Will Smith.

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After that, Rodriguez claims Will Smith
took out his anger on him. Will

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Smith says, you better be careful. You're far away from anyone who likes

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you. And where's that come from. What do you mean I'm far away?

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He goes, and no Mexicans here
in Africa said what. Rodriguez even

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kept a diary of the traumatic experience. The insults just continue that look after

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he hit that look of impunity,
and I'm saying to myself, I went

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from one of the happiest moments of
my life to a horrible situation. Rodriguez's

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scripted role was cut and he was
basically reduced to that of an extra.

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I had lines. I didn't addition
to be an extra here it was.

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It was humiliating. Those are the
words of Paul Rodriguez. He was reduced

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to an extra because of the man
in charge, and that was Will Smith.

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Yes, there are always two sides
of every story. There are things

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that maybe Will Smith is struggling with
internally and I totally get it right,

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We will get it, yeah,
but you don't bring out those emotions physically

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against someone else in that manner.
Now, somebody put a meme on on

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Facebook and instead of Chris Rock,
they substituted Chris Rock with the Rock saying

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that same joke. Do you think
Will Smith would have went up and slapped

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the Rock. I don't think so. Why because in this case, and

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forgive me if you guys don't like
the analogy of comparing Will Smith to a

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bully, but in this case,
the bully saw that somebody was weaker than

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him and he went up to Chris
Rock and slapped him. For a man

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to slap another man, it's very, very humiliating. Most men would prefer

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to get punched into the face and
not slapped. And slapping somebody is like

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the lowest form that you could show
on disrespect correct anybody. Yeah, you

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feel that they don't even have the
quality to be socked for some reason.

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You know, bro, I used
to be a comedian, standup comedian.

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You've seen the way that I roll
on probably what an R rated comedian?

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Yeah, double R, triple R
rated. Yeah, No, I do

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have a very I have a my
stick is probably what you could tell him

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from the street with my stand up
comrade. I would like to see Will

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Smith try and come and slap me
right here on our podcast or any time

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00:32:22.839 --> 00:32:27.480
that if I decided to take the
mic again. Yeah, I would like

409
00:32:27.519 --> 00:32:30.720
to see him smack me and the
only reason I'm saying that is because I

410
00:32:30.759 --> 00:32:38.240
think Will Smith is a coward.
I think he has a chip on his

411
00:32:38.279 --> 00:32:45.880
shoulder, he has an egomaniac problem. He only chooses to pick on individuals

412
00:32:45.920 --> 00:32:51.640
that he knows are not going to
react. They're going to be silent,

413
00:32:51.759 --> 00:32:54.799
They're going to give him the power, and he thought he could get away

414
00:32:54.839 --> 00:33:00.000
with it on public television. Chris
Rock is a small guy exactly, you

415
00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:02.519
know, I mean, a meek
looking guy. So he did it.

416
00:33:04.400 --> 00:33:09.680
I would like to see Will Smith
try to go smack Dave Chappelle. Oh,

417
00:33:09.720 --> 00:33:14.519
that would never happen. That would
never happen. I would I would

418
00:33:14.519 --> 00:33:17.400
love to hear what Muhammed al Ali, the great Muhammad Ali, who I

419
00:33:17.400 --> 00:33:21.920
will say I did get to meet
at one time in my life, very

420
00:33:21.960 --> 00:33:27.720
big role model of mine, would
say about Will Smith and his actions and

421
00:33:27.799 --> 00:33:30.759
what type of a human being the
man really is. Had Muhammed Ali been

422
00:33:30.799 --> 00:33:37.559
alive knowing that this individual, this
uh fake I want to say, pe

423
00:33:37.759 --> 00:33:44.480
whipped actor would would say about him? And how would Will Smith handle what

424
00:33:44.599 --> 00:33:49.039
Muhammed Ali would say about him?
I think Muhammed would be disgusted, just

425
00:33:49.119 --> 00:33:52.319
like Jim Carrey was. Yeah,
he would be disgusted and just as the

426
00:33:52.359 --> 00:33:57.240
majority of people I think that that
saw that and know about that. A

427
00:33:57.279 --> 00:34:00.480
few years ago, an acquaintance of
mine was Thatitar center with their son and

428
00:34:00.559 --> 00:34:06.359
their son and my acquaintance was at
the drum section. So the kid,

429
00:34:06.759 --> 00:34:09.400
maybe eight years old, was playing
drums, just making noise. It's understandable,

430
00:34:09.440 --> 00:34:13.880
but you're there, you're okay to
do that. Well. There was

431
00:34:13.920 --> 00:34:17.360
a very famous actor who came out
in the movie Iron Man. Actor's name

432
00:34:17.400 --> 00:34:23.000
is Terrence Howard. The actor said
to my acquaintance, he said, could

433
00:34:23.000 --> 00:34:27.119
you tell your kid to shut up? He's making too much noise and I

434
00:34:27.119 --> 00:34:30.440
don't want to hear this. And
my acquaintance said, excuse me, I'm

435
00:34:30.480 --> 00:34:32.639
not going to tell him nothing.
This is guitar Center. If you don't

436
00:34:32.679 --> 00:34:37.280
like it, you can go somewhere
else. And Terrence Howard told him,

437
00:34:37.480 --> 00:34:39.159
you don't make him shut up.
I will. Don't you know who I

438
00:34:39.239 --> 00:34:43.840
am? And my acquaintance said,
I have no idea who you are.

439
00:34:44.159 --> 00:34:46.199
He knew who he was, but
you're gonna well know who I am.

440
00:34:46.239 --> 00:34:50.760
If you even touch my kid,
you're going to go out in a stretcher.

441
00:34:50.960 --> 00:34:53.079
And that was the end. Of
it. But here come people because

442
00:34:53.119 --> 00:35:00.440
they have money and social status where
they're looked upon as icons of what.

443
00:35:00.599 --> 00:35:04.679
I don't know. They're followed by
millions of people, and they think that

444
00:35:04.719 --> 00:35:09.559
they are godlike in a way because
that's the status that they think. They

445
00:35:09.599 --> 00:35:14.239
think that their family is perfect,
so they believe that they're in the position

446
00:35:14.280 --> 00:35:20.639
to give family counseling, to give
family advice when their whole family is got

447
00:35:20.679 --> 00:35:24.000
so many issues going on, like
everybody else, right, the Academy,

448
00:35:24.159 --> 00:35:30.280
brother you and I know, they
were so hypocritical, and it was just

449
00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:35.360
a disgrace that they allowed that and
that they haven't done anything. Right now,

450
00:35:35.480 --> 00:35:38.840
somebody said that they are investigating the
whole thing. What's there to investigate?

451
00:35:39.000 --> 00:35:44.000
You have the dang video clip.
Look at it again, look at

452
00:35:44.039 --> 00:35:46.119
it again. There's no need to
look at it a thousand times. You

453
00:35:46.159 --> 00:35:51.119
know what he did. Cancel him, take his position away from Hollywood.

454
00:35:51.239 --> 00:35:53.360
Whatever you need to do. But
there has to be disciplinary action because if

455
00:35:53.360 --> 00:35:57.360
there isn't, it's going to happen
again. You know what, Here's what

456
00:35:57.440 --> 00:36:01.519
I fear. I fear that not
only the famous, famous comedians, but

457
00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:07.280
comedians that are trying to really make
it and they're going to smaller venues one

458
00:36:07.360 --> 00:36:14.440
day, are going to get harassed, picked on in a physical way on

459
00:36:14.599 --> 00:36:17.840
stage because they're going to feel that
it's okay to do so because of this

460
00:36:17.920 --> 00:36:23.440
incident. Being a former stand up
comedian, and I do say former,

461
00:36:23.599 --> 00:36:29.639
and I will not return to the
microphone. I think everybody in society is

462
00:36:30.400 --> 00:36:34.920
to me just so self indulged in. Everybody wants to be put on a

463
00:36:34.960 --> 00:36:39.760
pedestal. Stand up comedy to me
is dying art. The freedom that it

464
00:36:39.880 --> 00:36:47.840
had is dying. And I think
what mister Smith did to mister Rock fortifies

465
00:36:47.960 --> 00:36:55.199
my belief in we comedians have been
stripping of our freedom, have been stripping

466
00:36:55.440 --> 00:37:00.840
of our funny outlook. By one
action, this is going to open the

467
00:37:00.880 --> 00:37:05.719
door for so many people to feel
entitled that if they do not like the

468
00:37:05.800 --> 00:37:12.320
comedic jokes, they will either spew
their hate or they will physically challenge the

469
00:37:12.360 --> 00:37:16.199
comedian. And I think that is
very sad because I can honestly say,

470
00:37:16.639 --> 00:37:22.760
with this scenario happening, we are
going to lose a lot of the comedy

471
00:37:22.760 --> 00:37:27.920
clubs. We are going to lose
a lot of that feeling comfortable at comedy

472
00:37:27.960 --> 00:37:37.000
stores and comedy shops. But remember
Michael Richards of Seinfeldt fame also kind of

473
00:37:37.199 --> 00:37:44.239
cross that line with derogatory comments towards
the black community where he started using the

474
00:37:44.360 --> 00:37:50.000
n where he lost his mind,
he lost his touch. And I believe

475
00:37:50.239 --> 00:37:53.039
the reason I brought that up is
because I see these individuals suffer from one

476
00:37:53.119 --> 00:37:59.880
disease, ego mania. When an
individual's ego is so pumped up that they

477
00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:04.599
forgot that where they came from,
who they are and what they are naturally

478
00:38:04.719 --> 00:38:07.440
the same as everyone else. They're
just a little bit more fortunate. And

479
00:38:07.559 --> 00:38:13.480
that is a problem that we see
in America and in the entertainment field.

480
00:38:14.119 --> 00:38:19.960
And not only did mister Smith just
put us on the watch list for losing

481
00:38:20.360 --> 00:38:25.239
an art or people living a little
bit more fearful or even giving the bully

482
00:38:25.280 --> 00:38:30.400
a little bit more credit and balls
to stand up and do something similar to

483
00:38:30.480 --> 00:38:35.920
what Donald Trump did about racism.
I don't mean to get personal. I

484
00:38:36.000 --> 00:38:39.719
don't I'm not blasting anybody for their
political belief. I'm merely stating what I

485
00:38:39.760 --> 00:38:45.679
believe. The other thing I believe
very strongly, and what mister Smith did

486
00:38:46.559 --> 00:38:54.039
to me has taken the black entertainment
decades back. For his anger and his

487
00:38:54.239 --> 00:39:01.159
loss of control, his immaturity and
stupidity of responsibility. Because what more,

488
00:39:01.440 --> 00:39:07.719
more or less, what's going to
happen? This opens up the racial constrictions

489
00:39:07.760 --> 00:39:14.039
to start problems White America, the
dominating power that is Caucasian, are going

490
00:39:14.079 --> 00:39:16.719
to think, well, there,
look what happens when you let a black

491
00:39:16.760 --> 00:39:22.119
individual go. Look how they act. You're going to see a lot of

492
00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:29.760
racially driven Latinos who have some power
and some money. Look at look look

493
00:39:29.800 --> 00:39:35.760
what that Tinto said. All this
did was open up wounds and take a

494
00:39:35.960 --> 00:39:42.639
step back. He did nothing,
nothing to show appreciation or to show growth.

495
00:39:43.000 --> 00:39:46.760
And it's very ironic that that scenario
happened when they were discussing Sydney Potier,

496
00:39:47.320 --> 00:39:53.119
a black actor that came milestones,
that took the African American to heights

497
00:39:53.159 --> 00:40:00.400
in the theater, establishment to newer
grounds, and on the same day his

498
00:40:00.519 --> 00:40:07.800
name was whispered. Will Smith desecrates
any memory or any progression to regression.

499
00:40:08.119 --> 00:40:14.440
And it's sad because in one slick
move, acting like a full bully,

500
00:40:14.559 --> 00:40:19.199
he blew so many things that a
lot of people are aware of and a

501
00:40:19.199 --> 00:40:22.719
lot of people are not aware of. And the apology that he gave to

502
00:40:22.199 --> 00:40:27.159
Chris And I'm not even talking about
the so called apology he did that same

503
00:40:27.280 --> 00:40:31.719
night. That was just ridiculous.
Not to apologize to Chris Rock that night,

504
00:40:31.960 --> 00:40:36.599
but the apology he gave to Chris
Rock a day later or two days

505
00:40:36.679 --> 00:40:40.800
later, it came too late,
and it was the apology where he's forced

506
00:40:40.840 --> 00:40:46.679
It's like the politician's apology. It's
forced upon. It was written and it

507
00:40:46.760 --> 00:40:51.320
was more like, please don't kick
me out of the academy. When we

508
00:40:51.400 --> 00:40:54.760
come back, We're going to continue
and a little more about the unfortunate incident

509
00:40:55.119 --> 00:41:07.519
that we used to suffer in the
eighties called bullying. Do you remember the

510
00:41:07.559 --> 00:41:13.320
first time you tried these games space
fuck with practice cop y'all see, and

511
00:41:13.559 --> 00:41:15.199
when you first tried and coke and
you said, no, thank you,

512
00:41:15.320 --> 00:41:22.880
but let's try and coke again because
once you got that new wave, dast,

513
00:41:22.880 --> 00:41:27.000
do you want to try it again
again and again? No practice cuts

514
00:41:27.039 --> 00:41:31.280
the way cocag. This is back
to the eighties radio. We are talking

515
00:41:31.320 --> 00:41:36.639
about bullying. So if you just
joined us, we talked about how bullying

516
00:41:36.719 --> 00:41:42.880
has affected so many people from the
eighties and most recently in the older people

517
00:41:42.920 --> 00:41:45.719
as well as we saw at the
Oscars, But I don't shoot the phone.

518
00:41:45.719 --> 00:41:51.400
It's right only we don't take phone
calls here at this time. But

519
00:41:51.559 --> 00:41:54.639
okay, back to the eighties radio. Who is on the other line,

520
00:41:55.400 --> 00:42:04.079
Hello, Prosarius Rex, It's me
Rods Deal, everybody's favorite beautician, the

521
00:42:04.159 --> 00:42:08.320
only man who's got better hair than
Chang? Where is my split in freak

522
00:42:08.400 --> 00:42:13.320
friend demon? So long? We're
glad that that you called the show.

523
00:42:13.440 --> 00:42:16.920
Rod Chang is around. But listen, I'm glad that you called because we

524
00:42:16.960 --> 00:42:20.840
haven't talked to you in a long
time. You know, do you do

525
00:42:20.960 --> 00:42:24.000
realize that you call us during the
show though, right? Oh yes I

526
00:42:24.039 --> 00:42:27.840
do, because I think that's the
only time I could get a tag team

527
00:42:27.840 --> 00:42:30.239
with both you sailors in the same
place. And Noble, you're gonna take

528
00:42:30.280 --> 00:42:37.079
your parents. I'm sitting right now
French a French cut underwear that my new

529
00:42:37.159 --> 00:42:45.360
boyfriend Pierre saw Chua has just spotted
me. They are edible test Yeah,

530
00:42:45.519 --> 00:42:52.000
no, bubba gum. Oh no, we don't need to talk about Oh

531
00:42:52.079 --> 00:42:57.639
yeah, we don't need to talk
to Yeah, listen, let's have a

532
00:42:57.679 --> 00:43:06.400
bubba underwear that's a you could blow
more than a bubble way too much.

533
00:43:06.760 --> 00:43:12.760
Can I get some more wine please? Grassie? Listen, Rod, we

534
00:43:12.800 --> 00:43:15.280
are talking the topic of today,
of course, we're talking about bullying and

535
00:43:15.320 --> 00:43:21.119
how it affected people during the eighties
and how it stuck its ugly nasty head

536
00:43:21.280 --> 00:43:27.000
recently at the Oscars. Do you
have any experience with being bullied or were

537
00:43:27.039 --> 00:43:30.880
you bullied as a kid back in
the eighties. Oh, sweet chicks,

538
00:43:31.079 --> 00:43:37.480
I was bullied from day one.
I mean day one, when I came

539
00:43:37.480 --> 00:43:43.320
out of my mother, I swore
that I needed matching earrings to match my

540
00:43:45.360 --> 00:43:50.559
shoes. I mean, I knew
I was special from the moment I was

541
00:43:50.599 --> 00:43:53.880
born right, and from day one. My first day in school, I'll

542
00:43:53.920 --> 00:43:59.599
never forget, my mom dressed me
up in gar animals and she had to

543
00:43:59.639 --> 00:44:04.920
get to she had to get some
hair ties that match my outfit because I

544
00:44:04.960 --> 00:44:08.599
preferred to wear my hair like a
lady. And I'll never forget. We

545
00:44:08.599 --> 00:44:14.159
were on the schoolyard and we were
about to get picked for kickball. Do

546
00:44:14.159 --> 00:44:17.239
you remember playing kickball? Tusky?
Oh yeah, I loved I loved kickball.

547
00:44:17.280 --> 00:44:21.400
I was pretty good at it.
I kicked so many boys in the

548
00:44:21.440 --> 00:44:25.559
balls I can't even remember. Anyway, I'll never forget this young boy.

549
00:44:25.719 --> 00:44:30.320
Scott called me a sissy lalla and
said, hey, you look like my

550
00:44:30.519 --> 00:44:36.760
sister, but you're a boy.
And I remember I took out my my

551
00:44:36.880 --> 00:44:42.239
yellow hair clip and it looked like
it looked like daisies. And I carved

552
00:44:42.239 --> 00:44:47.199
his eye out. I carved his
eye out. You carved his eye out.

553
00:44:47.960 --> 00:44:53.840
Yeah, it's a little bastard.
He wasn't even wearing matching socks and

554
00:44:53.920 --> 00:44:59.920
he smelled like poop. It doesn't
matter if we were in the third grade.

555
00:45:00.039 --> 00:45:04.760
Well, so it doesn't appear that. It appears sort of that you

556
00:45:04.800 --> 00:45:09.760
took a little revenge on him for
bullying. He took measures in my own

557
00:45:10.119 --> 00:45:16.400
hands. That was my first experience
with a bully. My second experience.

558
00:45:17.599 --> 00:45:24.199
His name was Chad and he was
a cowboy and he was a bull wrestler.

559
00:45:24.599 --> 00:45:29.800
If he used to hot timey on
all four I knew it would put

560
00:45:29.800 --> 00:45:34.320
it. He used to put a
leather strap in my mouth and spank me.

561
00:45:34.599 --> 00:45:43.679
Okay, make me go oh okay. Well Rod on that note,

562
00:45:44.320 --> 00:45:47.159
you know, thank you, thank
you for calling here back to the eighties.

563
00:45:47.199 --> 00:45:52.440
I will tell Chang that you said
hello, now, Brosasovic, when

564
00:45:52.480 --> 00:45:57.199
are you and the mistress coming in. I remember that I have to give

565
00:45:57.239 --> 00:46:00.440
you both a little bit of treatment
for the grade that you have coming in

566
00:46:00.519 --> 00:46:02.440
over here near the ears. Yeah, well I have plenty of them.

567
00:46:02.679 --> 00:46:10.679
Got hold on doore. I just
love, I love for my carzone to

568
00:46:10.679 --> 00:46:15.960
turn around. He's got some skimpy
wimpy time. Let's just that note,

569
00:46:15.480 --> 00:46:19.400
Rod, thank you for calling in
today, and uh, well we're gonna

570
00:46:19.400 --> 00:46:22.119
have to let you go, but
hopefully we can talk more with you and

571
00:46:22.239 --> 00:46:25.760
maybe you dare hang up on me. I will smith both you, you

572
00:46:25.960 --> 00:46:32.719
bastards, Rod Steel, ladies and
gentlemen. Sometimes Rod will come around and

573
00:46:34.360 --> 00:46:37.960
literally and he will, you know, fix both chang and my hair at

574
00:46:37.960 --> 00:46:40.840
the same time. He wants to, but he doesn't get the pleasure.

575
00:46:42.159 --> 00:46:45.920
Oh I see what did I miss? I was I had to go to

576
00:46:45.920 --> 00:46:50.800
the restroom now, Rod just had
too many too many chili dogs before I

577
00:46:50.840 --> 00:46:52.519
got to the shore. Day.
No, Rod Steele just called in and

578
00:46:52.920 --> 00:46:57.599
he sends his regards and wants to
know when you're gonna be going to his

579
00:46:57.719 --> 00:47:01.320
salon. Oh that's my boy.
That Rod Steel is the Peter Pan of

580
00:47:01.440 --> 00:47:05.639
making your hair look scrumptious. I
mean, the guy look a look at

581
00:47:05.679 --> 00:47:08.159
my hair. Look at and this
is no Gene Simmons hairstyle. I don't

582
00:47:08.199 --> 00:47:15.679
look like Darth Vader like he just
we are talking about battling the bullies from

583
00:47:15.719 --> 00:47:19.960
back in the eighties and how it's
still going on today. Back in the

584
00:47:20.000 --> 00:47:23.760
eighties, we saw a lot of
bowling when homosexuality was on the rise.

585
00:47:24.760 --> 00:47:30.440
A lot of individuals used bowling in
such a hateful, derogatory, mean,

586
00:47:31.199 --> 00:47:38.519
cutthroat way when the age epidemic right
and uh, they were selling such t

587
00:47:38.679 --> 00:47:46.159
shirts and stickers as aids kills fags
dead's aide kills queers dead. And at

588
00:47:46.199 --> 00:47:51.360
that time, the magnitude of all
that coming out, it was so shocking

589
00:47:51.360 --> 00:47:57.079
and overwhelming that we as human beings
could not wrap our hands around somebody with

590
00:47:57.159 --> 00:48:01.880
a disease that was crippling and kill
people. More so that people had to

591
00:48:01.920 --> 00:48:08.639
be hiding behind their fears and some
of their hate to make such heinous statements

592
00:48:08.639 --> 00:48:15.400
as that, and to use that
disease kind of almost as a bean bag

593
00:48:15.480 --> 00:48:22.320
to hit on target of an open
sore. And one thing I do notice,

594
00:48:22.760 --> 00:48:27.280
besides what we've seen with will Smith, the outrage on people nowadays that

595
00:48:27.320 --> 00:48:31.840
are coming out of the closet and
are getting sex changes. The hate and

596
00:48:31.920 --> 00:48:37.679
the bulling that those individuals are going
through, it just reminds me about what

597
00:48:37.800 --> 00:48:40.519
it was like in the eighties if
you were gay and the hate. You

598
00:48:40.599 --> 00:48:45.199
got some of the hate back there
in the eighties, even in the industry

599
00:48:45.239 --> 00:48:52.440
of entertainment during the era of John
Wayne, who was detained at an Academy

600
00:48:52.480 --> 00:48:57.840
award for his hate towards the Native
American actress that was going to go out

601
00:48:57.880 --> 00:49:04.719
there and ask that the Native Americans
be remembered and have some appreciation and some

602
00:49:04.840 --> 00:49:10.519
respect and some attention towards them.
John Wayne went backstage into tirade and was

603
00:49:10.920 --> 00:49:16.639
using every four letter word that he
could describing the Native American young lady,

604
00:49:17.119 --> 00:49:22.920
and he was detained and not allowed
to go on stage. And it just

605
00:49:22.840 --> 00:49:29.000
the scenarios. The hate is the
same, but the actions are different.

606
00:49:29.400 --> 00:49:32.920
The actions are getting acted out,
they're getting allowed to be acted out.

607
00:49:32.960 --> 00:49:38.639
And that is the humiliation of it
all that entities are allowing this type of

608
00:49:38.679 --> 00:49:44.440
behavior, be isolating it, and
it'sn't correcting it. And it's unfortunate that

609
00:49:44.519 --> 00:49:50.360
we think today that we have evolved
as a society to a point where we

610
00:49:50.440 --> 00:49:52.920
don't have to worry about those things. They don't happen anymore as they did.

611
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And you know what this goes to
show us, we haven't evolved that

612
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much. Like I say a lot
of times, I think we have regressed

613
00:50:04.800 --> 00:50:08.960
instead of progressed. We've definitely regressed, you know. Changing That reminds me

614
00:50:09.480 --> 00:50:14.760
a bullying memory that comes up.
A friend of mine when I was We

615
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grew up together from our early first
grade when he was in junior high,

616
00:50:21.519 --> 00:50:24.880
I want to say, eighth grade, but he went through two years of

617
00:50:25.039 --> 00:50:35.239
recuperation because of a bully. He
was in Mexico on vacation and he was

618
00:50:35.360 --> 00:50:42.519
visiting either a family member or a
friend who was at a fireworks shop,

619
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and this bully came to him,
and this was nineteen eighty I want to

620
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say, in nineteen eighty six,
eighty seven, and this bully locked him

621
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into the bathroom where they had boxes
of just leftover fireworks and threw an m

622
00:51:07.280 --> 00:51:13.840
ad firework into the bathroom on top
of the box where it had just hundreds

623
00:51:13.840 --> 00:51:17.400
and hundreds of fireworks of more m
ads. So the bathroom lit up.

624
00:51:17.679 --> 00:51:22.039
It blew up with my friend in
there, and he did not die,

625
00:51:23.000 --> 00:51:30.880
but he had ninety seven percent of
his body covered in third degree burns.

626
00:51:30.280 --> 00:51:39.360
He was no longer recognizable as a
young man. I remember he and I

627
00:51:39.480 --> 00:51:44.440
say this because the memories that come
back are so sad. It brings tears

628
00:51:44.480 --> 00:51:47.159
to my eyes because of what he
went through. They had him face down

629
00:51:47.400 --> 00:51:52.800
on a bed. Do you remember
the Outsiders? Remember when Moralph Macho's character

630
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was burned as well? I can
tell you that my friend was worse,

631
00:51:57.519 --> 00:52:01.400
was burned, far worse than what
the character Outsiders was. He would scream

632
00:52:01.440 --> 00:52:07.119
at night and in the day,
and he would scream out to his mom

633
00:52:07.639 --> 00:52:12.920
to please run a knife through his
neck. But he could because he could

634
00:52:13.039 --> 00:52:17.679
no longer take the pain of the
burn And this was something that happened in

635
00:52:17.719 --> 00:52:23.360
the eighties because of a bully.
My friend's name and if he ever does

636
00:52:23.480 --> 00:52:31.880
hear this, I'm hoping he's still
alive. Junior Hernandez. He was fourteen,

637
00:52:32.199 --> 00:52:39.719
thirteen or fourteen. And it's interesting
because his family and I grew very

638
00:52:39.719 --> 00:52:45.000
close together after this event. His
older brother took me under his wing,

639
00:52:45.679 --> 00:52:52.440
and in this family suffered quite a
bit during the eighties. His older brother

640
00:52:52.559 --> 00:52:59.119
also suffered in the hands of a
bigger bully at a party. Remember there

641
00:52:59.119 --> 00:53:04.519
were a lot of parts during the
eighties house parties, and this older brother,

642
00:53:05.480 --> 00:53:09.519
Junior Hernandez's older brother, went to
this party, asked the wrong girl

643
00:53:09.559 --> 00:53:16.239
to dance, and that evening lost
his life because of a bully who came

644
00:53:16.280 --> 00:53:20.639
to him with a gun and shot
him square in the head. The stories

645
00:53:20.639 --> 00:53:24.519
of bullying are severe, and the
way that bullying has to be dealt with

646
00:53:24.800 --> 00:53:30.920
is also severe. Regardless of how
much power, how much social status,

647
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of regardless of how much money you
have, bullying is an illness to society

648
00:53:37.239 --> 00:53:43.440
and it needs to be dealt with
with the same severity that they act upon

649
00:53:43.920 --> 00:53:51.079
their victims. The only way a
bully ever redeems himself is with karma,

650
00:53:51.320 --> 00:53:55.800
I think. But then again,
I think in any situation, the only

651
00:53:55.840 --> 00:54:04.920
way somebody is going to seek redemi
is through karmas something is going to happen

652
00:54:05.000 --> 00:54:08.639
to them and make them reflect.
And wow, I could have made somebody

653
00:54:08.719 --> 00:54:13.079
feel like this, This is a
horrendous way to feel. I may never

654
00:54:13.119 --> 00:54:19.320
do that again. But then,
like you did state, there are a

655
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lot of cases where bullies don't come
back from being bullies. They commit crimes.

656
00:54:24.440 --> 00:54:29.440
How many individuals that are locked up
in penitentiaries or former bullies, right,

657
00:54:30.320 --> 00:54:31.960
you know what I mean? How
many bullies became police officers? By

658
00:54:32.000 --> 00:54:36.599
the way, how many that's another
point. How many bullis do we have

659
00:54:36.840 --> 00:54:42.719
running around behind badges? How many
bullies do we have a holding office and

660
00:54:43.639 --> 00:54:47.639
telling us what we can or can't
do? How many bullys do we have

661
00:54:49.599 --> 00:54:53.559
running into streets that no one has
held accountable for? Exactly? Are these

662
00:54:53.599 --> 00:55:00.400
bullies what you could call possible serial
killers, rapists, pedophiles? I mean,

663
00:55:01.199 --> 00:55:06.320
bullying can destroy, like I said
earlier, someone's mind and make them

664
00:55:06.320 --> 00:55:09.960
create a whole different type of monster. Who knows what that individual who has

665
00:55:10.000 --> 00:55:16.880
suffered from bullying becomes the bully themselves
or a worse predator to no women,

666
00:55:16.880 --> 00:55:22.159
it's a cancer, my friend.
And there's also one more side of bullying

667
00:55:22.239 --> 00:55:24.039
that we have not touched upon them, but we all know that it's a

668
00:55:24.119 --> 00:55:30.559
reality, and that is the bullying
that happens at home in families. There's

669
00:55:30.679 --> 00:55:37.480
many families where the husband is the
bully and destroys an entire families mental state,

670
00:55:38.360 --> 00:55:44.000
sometimes even physical state. And there
are also women who are bullies,

671
00:55:44.199 --> 00:55:46.480
but it's a lot less of the
women who are bullies to their husbands.

672
00:55:46.920 --> 00:55:52.119
But there's also parents who are bullies
to their children, and it's a sad

673
00:55:52.280 --> 00:55:57.039
state when that happens. Things need
to change because if they don't, and

674
00:55:57.239 --> 00:56:00.360
we just allow it as a society
continue. I mean, look at this,

675
00:56:00.559 --> 00:56:05.039
the oscars, what do they do. They're investigating it. It's been

676
00:56:05.480 --> 00:56:10.920
now a week since they're investigating and
still no disciplinary action. Anytime violence is

677
00:56:10.960 --> 00:56:19.440
allowed and goes without being punished opens
up the door for violence to be the

678
00:56:19.599 --> 00:56:24.800
normal. I think we see that
in society everyday. Reality TV has provoked

679
00:56:25.519 --> 00:56:31.760
a lot of that, the scenarios
where you see it's a two headed coin

680
00:56:31.800 --> 00:56:37.800
where we talk about police abuse,
but we also see a lot of disrespect

681
00:56:37.920 --> 00:56:44.159
coming from citizens who know that they
get hide behind someone's camera or possibly get

682
00:56:44.159 --> 00:56:51.119
away with the saying or doing something. So it's a two headed demon what

683
00:56:51.280 --> 00:56:54.239
we have in society, and there's
bowling on both sides. We have police

684
00:56:54.239 --> 00:56:59.840
officers that are bowling, we have
people that are actual bullies bullying the police.

685
00:57:00.119 --> 00:57:05.199
Yeah, and both both sides are
getting pushed into one one extreme way

686
00:57:05.360 --> 00:57:10.440
violence and that's what any type of
picking on or boiling creates violence, and

687
00:57:10.559 --> 00:57:15.760
no one wins once we have violence, the powers in the hands of whoever's

688
00:57:15.760 --> 00:57:20.280
going to win the violent act,
and we all lose. My brother.

689
00:57:20.920 --> 00:57:27.000
You've been listening to Back to the
Eighties Radio on a very delicate and serious

690
00:57:27.079 --> 00:57:30.000
note today We're going to be back
next Friday. We hope you have a

691
00:57:30.079 --> 00:57:34.199
great week. If you want to
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692
00:57:34.280 --> 00:57:38.440
us at Back the Number two the
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693
00:57:38.519 --> 00:57:40.760
us a note, let us know
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694
00:57:40.920 --> 00:57:45.239
So stick around. We've got more
to come. This is Siscano wishing you

695
00:57:45.760 --> 00:57:52.000
the absolute best of weeks and a
big shout out to everybody in the Ukraine.

696
00:57:52.400 --> 00:57:55.559
This is a chain before I release
you into another chang tastic weekend.

697
00:57:55.559 --> 00:58:00.760
I want to thank you from the
bottom of my heart, joining Toscano and

698
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I and remember to go out there
and stay lifted and gifted. Do not

699
00:58:05.519 --> 00:58:10.320
let nothing get you down. Yes, we are looking at devastation all amongst

700
00:58:10.400 --> 00:58:15.280
us, but we cannot let the
negativity create the scenario on the way to

701
00:58:15.400 --> 00:58:20.320
be. So go have a good
time, stand up for yourself, stand

702
00:58:20.400 --> 00:58:23.039
up for something great, enjoyed the
one you're with. Put a smile on

703
00:58:23.079 --> 00:58:29.719
somebody's face. Keep that smile going, and remember you are important because you

704
00:58:29.840 --> 00:58:36.280
matter. So I bid you all
on Asta lavista, asta manana Astellaego says

705
00:58:37.840 --> 00:58:43.639
to all my buddies in the valley
lad brows and to all my homies in

706
00:58:43.679 --> 00:59:06.360
the badios, Oh me back,
shill die mys already whoa he before I get so